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Its because im not a fan of 3D and i think that messing around like they have to accommodate giant ping-pong in 3D is frankly taking the piss on the BBC's part! It was not to say something about you or others not knowing. |
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Its because im not a fan of 3D and i think that messing around like they have to accommodate giant ping-pong in 3D is frankly taking the piss on the BBC's part!
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No idea. The BBC has far better things to spend money on the 3D for giant ping pong..
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It was not to say something about you or others not knowing.
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They need to get HD right first, PQ is poor and the resolution is not max. The bitrate is dropping all the time and they want to now play in 3D!!!
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No idea. The BBC has far better things to spend money on the 3D for giant ping pong..
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They riggled out of revealing what the royal wedding cost the BBC, they would do the same here i am almost certain of that... Worth a try maybe
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My Humax HDR seems to have updated itself.
Only thing is the series recording of Britain's Secret Seas failed tonight. Not sure if it was missing markers or something to do with the update. Watched it live on BBC HD instead. BTW thought the picture was poor compared to previous weeks. |
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It might be worth putting a FOI request about how much they are spending on this, it all gets a bit murky imo when it looks like BBC might be promoting a very new technology that conveniently results in more TVs being sold.
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The brutal irony is that dealing with pointless FOI requests like this are far more of a waste of resources and money than them actually doing what they are supposed to and progressing with new technologies. "Promoting new technologies to conveniently sell more TV's"? What a ludicrous statement. Did you feel the same when the BBC first broadcast colour TV, or teletext, or NICAM stereo, or digital TV or HD? Good Lord.
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Yes indeed - 3D has dubious benefits for most people, unlike the other technological improvements mentioned above. It will likely never become mainstream either, not for the foreseeable future anyway (unlike all the other things...).
BBC should be spending our money, using our bandwidth even, on better pictures (yes including HD, or another HD channel) that will benefit the mainstream in the foreseeable future, not on the kind of commercial gimmick that the better funded Sky (and some other Countries) can afford to play about with. Until that is the technology is tried and tested, stable, and there is a foreseeable significant future demand for it. All IMO. |
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According to the BBC Blog, the BBC Trust have stated that the issue with BBC HD picture quality is over.
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I wonder if I will be able to spot a difference between my existing recording of the HD test card and that on the new frequencies?
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All the innovations you listed had very obvious benefits, and no known bad effects on vision/hearing. 3D is an unproven fringe technology, that will likely never reach large scale as people will simply not want to put on glasses every time they want to watch TV, as well as the fact that for a large number of people the 3D experience has adverse effects. The BBC should simply not be devoting the millions that I am sure they have already put into this which will be of no use to the majority of the licence fee payers.
The BBC should always be striving to try out new things - even if at least initially there may be a small number of people interested. When iPlay was first launched many people thought that was a waste of time but that has been very popular. |
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It is known that the BBC are running 3D tests at Wimbledon and it is suspected that the satellite changes may be to launch a temporary 3D channel only for the Wimbledon fortnight - this will NOT be on Freeview-HD.
The BBC have admitted that it may not be possible to bring all new services to Freeview-HD in the future. |
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Things change - looking at announcement today it WILL be on Freeview too...i'm happy as have Freeview HD and satellite (plus a 3D tv)...
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All the innovations you listed had very obvious benefits, and no known bad effects on vision/hearing. 3D is an unproven fringe technology, that will likely never reach large scale as people will simply not want to put on glasses every time they want to watch TV, as well as the fact that for a large number of people the 3D experience has adverse effects. The BBC should simply not be devoting the millions that I am sure they have already put into this which will be of no use to the majority of the licence fee payers.
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According to the BBC Blog, the BBC Trust have stated that the issue with BBC HD picture quality is over.
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According to the BBC Blog, the BBC Trust have stated that the issue with BBC HD picture quality is over.
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They finally admitted it was shit?
"BBC HD should deliver a very high quality technical service to viewers, by adhering to, or seeking to exceed, industry standards for picture resolution." and decided that it had to be subject to a) a value for money clause and b) spectrum availability on DTT. So now it doesn't even have to adhere to industry standards for picture resolution. The substance of the complaints about reduction in PQ seem therefore to have been ignored on the grounds that they were irrelevant. See the carefully worded actual decision: "The Committee concluded that it did not agree that BBC HD picture quality was falling short of requirements, and therefore these complaints were not upheld." Case closed (as you rapidly find out if you try to bring it up on, for instance, the BBC blog on the S2 change). Having said all that, PQ has got a lot better since then. |
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So it means DTT is crap and so we have to reduce the quality of satellite as to not make DTT look bad.
The people at the BBC are just so backward, the type that wouldnt allow a birthday cake candles to be lit without a fire safety officer there. |
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So the BBC once again comes out with the bull**** sentence of 'platform neutrality' which is something that boggles my mind as surely you want to maximise the potential of each platform, and not stifle others because one is less able the another!
The great BBC ladies and gentlemen!!!! |
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They took this sentence from the BBC HD service licence:
"BBC HD should deliver a very high quality technical service to viewers, by adhering to, or seeking to exceed, industry standards for picture resolution." and decided that it had to be subject to a) a value for money clause and b) spectrum availability on DTT. So now it doesn't even have to adhere to industry standards for picture resolution. The substance of the complaints about reduction in PQ seem therefore to have been ignored on the grounds that they were irrelevant. See the carefully worded actual decision: "The Committee concluded that it did not agree that BBC HD picture quality was falling short of requirements, and therefore these complaints were not upheld." Case closed (as you rapidly find out if you try to bring it up on, for instance, the BBC blog on the S2 change). Having said all that, PQ has got a lot better since then. |
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Its because im not a fan of 3D and i think that messing around like they have to accommodate giant ping-pong in 3D is frankly taking the piss on the BBC's part! It may even depend on manufacturer and display technology eg plasma or lcd. I don't think its fair for people to write 3D off based on a particular viewing experience until you've seen all that it has to offer. As for it being in the minority, I agree, it is at the moment but 3D is largely where tv will be going in the future whether or not that's via 3D glasses or Star Trek type holographic technology. Ultimately, its the only way the manufacturers and broadcasters can deliver more realism as resolution will shortly hit its limits of improvement, I'm guessing around SuperHiVision time. |
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