Jim has seriously blotted his copybook.

He came up with the name, which should not, in itself, have been a problem. An ideal candidate would have admitted that and calmly pointed out that it was devised to go with the PM's overall idea, everyone accepted it and no one had come up with a viable alternative. Job done.

But Sugar set a trap for him. He asked whose idea the name was and Jim was straight in claiming all the credit. Then when it became obvious that they had lost he was desperately trying to weasel his way out of admitting that it was his idea. So not only did he take his eye off the ball - the name wasn't what lost them the task - it was the idea - but he was also completely unwilling to take responsibility for what he himself saw (albeit mistakenly) as a major mistake.

This is most definitely not the sort of person with whom you want to go into business. People who can't admit their mistakes are a major liability because they cloud the issue and prevent the correct lessons being learnt. If they are higher up in an organisation their weaselling will serious demoralise the staff at lower levels. I suspect his days are numbered and the first time he's in the boardroom he's history.

Vince definitely took a bullet for him.

I think Sugar sees potential in him so he may keep him around just to test him to his limit and maybe knock him down a peg or two, in the hope that he learns a lesson.

With his manipulative reputation I think winning is now looking unlikely.

Very well put. My original thought was that I liked him standing up to Karen Brady saying that if the person who's idea is picked gets criticised, then you may as well sit there mute and not come up with any ideas.

But your way of putting it does make snese. He should've accepted it and dealt with any consequences (which wouldn't have happened as Vince was never going to take him in).

That said there are far too many examples in all the series of "It was your idea" being thrown at candidates, when the whole team was brainstorming and jumped on one particular idea.

I agreed with what Jim was saying though; he never tried to weasel out of the fact that he had come up with the idea, just the fact that he was to blame for the concept. He did not deny that he came up with the name, but denied that he came up with the concept, which was the truth. Nothing wrong with what he was saying as far as I'm concerned.

Not how I remember it.

Maybe one of the 'real' fans who keep detailed records can tell us what he said verbatim on a second by second basis.

i can see jims point though, he came up with the name...but the name didnt lead to the downfall of task so why should he take any blame for it.

im glad he argued his point.

That much is true.

The problem was that having said it was all his idea he then started backtracking and that made him look like a weasel. He should have retained ownership of the name and spent his time arguing that that wasn't what lost them the task.


Well, the way he did it has probably lost him the competition.

what did he say that was so bad then?

lord alan and his cohorts are not gods that should never be spoken back too, he said nothing wrong

what particualr sentence of his did you think was rude? he was perfectly within his rights to ask karen if shed prefer him to just be a passenger rather than put names forward.