Time for BBM to Multiplatform??

TerryH · 08-06-2011, 15:30

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I just dont get the hype for BBM. As i have said, there are better apps that can be used for the exact same thing.

Even though, as according to their FAQ, it can't tell you when a message has been read.

IslandNiles · 08-06-2011, 16:25

Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS.

I agree with what others have said about WhatsApp. It's a very elegant solution for cross-platform messaging. I have unlimited texts but use it a lot for pictures. And for chatting to my friends without unlimited texts!!

Stiggles · 08-06-2011, 16:29

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS.

I agree with what others have said about WhatsApp. It's a very elegant solution for cross-platform messaging. I have unlimited texts but use it a lot for pictures. And for chatting to my friends without unlimited texts!!

Indeed.

Also another thing thats quite good is Viber. Its on thr iPhone but is a beta on Android just now which i got into yesterday and its superb. free calls and messages

darkone338 · 09-06-2011, 22:09

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS.

Got a link for that ? Last I read it was an unfounded rumour ..

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-mes...6th-not-really

the chimp · 09-06-2011, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Having used both, Whatsapp is so much better than BBM in every respect.

Your having a laugh, it's not even close.

mills705 · 09-06-2011, 23:04

One problem with BBM, is the occasional lack of sending/ receiving messages which isnt related to signal!
You an have signal and GPRS or 3g and it wont be sent for ages. Its more to do with RIM than anything network related as it affects most people!

the chimp · 09-06-2011, 23:09

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Originally Posted by mills705

One problem with BBM, is the occasional lack of sending/ receiving messages which isnt related to signal!
You an have signal and GPRS or 3g and it wont be sent for ages. Its more to do with RIM than anything network related as it affects most people!

Been using it for a few years now and never had such a problem.

psionic · 09-06-2011, 23:12

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Your having a laugh, it's not even close.

Out of interest, what makes BBM better then WhatsApp?

the chimp · 09-06-2011, 23:26

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Originally Posted by psionic

Out of interest, what makes BBM better then WhatsApp?

Ease of use, message read confirmation, by far the most important things.

psionic · 10-06-2011, 00:16

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Ease of use, message read confirmation, by far the most important things.

AFAIK WhatsApp does show if the message has been read and even shows you when the other party is typing and the last time they checked their messages. Although it doesn't use a PIN like BBM it seems dead simple to use. Plus the added advantage of being cross platform. My son uses BBM to chat to his mates, but has also installed Whatsapp on his Blackberry so that he can keep in touch with the rest of the family, none of whom have BBs. Would be far easier if we all could use something for IMs which works on any phone.

the chimp · 10-06-2011, 00:20

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Originally Posted by psionic

AFAIK WhatsApp does show if the message has been read and even shows you when the other party is typing and the last time they checked their messages. Although it doesn't use a PIN like BBM it seems dead simple to use. Plus the added advantage of being cross platform. My son uses BBM to chat to his mates, but has also installed Whatsapp on his Blackberry so that he can keep in touch with the rest of the family, none of whom have BBs. Would be far easier if we all could use something for IMs which works on any phone.

Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

JamesParkin · 10-06-2011, 00:50

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy.

psionic · 10-06-2011, 03:16

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

Fair enough. But It does show the message has been delivered though. Surely that's enough? http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/#g4

the chimp · 10-06-2011, 09:00

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Originally Posted by JamesParkin

Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy.

Really :yawn:

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Originally Posted by psionic

Fair enough. But It does show the message has been delivered though. Surely that's enough? http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/#g4

I was asked what is better about BBM, which was answered, I don't see how having less info could be classed as better, once you have something that is better everything else feels like a step back.

hassan · 10-06-2011, 11:31

My brother actually wants to buy a blackberry just for bbm, yet he doesn't actually know anyone that has a BB. A lot of people are going for blackberry for the bbm service, if it goes multiplatform, it will only be bad for RIM.

cavemanjames · 10-06-2011, 11:32

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Originally Posted by JamesParkin

Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy.

If WhatsApp does have some kind of delivery notification then fair enough... But you can't be 100% certain they've received the message.

hassan · 10-06-2011, 11:32

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

Wait I'm sure it does, you see two ticks when you send a message right? Meaning it has been read? Also, instead of having to remember a pin number, whatsapp simply searches through your contacts list to see if anyone else has it installed and adds them to your friends list, which I think is much easier

Stiggles · 10-06-2011, 11:46

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

Yes it does.

It shows 1 tick when the message has been sent and a second tick once its been received/read.

Anyway, why does anyone need to be sad enough to sit there and wait to see if a message has been read? Surely you will know it was read when they reply!

Never understood that or the need for delivery reports.

Stiggles · 10-06-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by cavemanjames

If WhatsApp does have some kind of delivery notification then fair enough... But you can't be 100% certain they've received the message.

Yes you can.

When they reply! Good god......lol

psionic · 10-06-2011, 12:55

Whatsapp does show that the message has been delivered to the destination device. Apparently it doesn't show that it has been actually read (or understood by the recipient

)

On my phone the message pops up on the screen instantly - granted I may not be near the phone at the time but I will see it when I pick up the phone next.

the chimp · 10-06-2011, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Yes it does.

It shows 1 tick when the message has been sent and a second tick once its been received/read.

.

Incorrect, 1 tick for sent, 2 ticks only means its been delivered to device, it doesn't tell you its been read.

TheBigM · 10-06-2011, 16:12

Some people don't want a service with read reports, otherwise they can't use that line "sorry, I didn't get your text"

Stiggles · 10-06-2011, 18:29

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Originally Posted by the chimp

Incorrect, 1 tick for sent, 2 ticks only means its been delivered to device, it doesn't tell you its been read.

Weeeeell, if its been received by the device then its obviously been read surely? I mean a box pops up when a message is received so its not like they are going to miss it are they?

Anyway, why is this so important? I still don't get why someone who isnt desperate or paranoid needs to know when a message has been read! When the person responds, that's when you know lol

the chimp · 10-06-2011, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Weeeeell, if its been received by the device then its obviously been read surely?

how the hell do you come up with that one ? Their phone could be in the car, in a different room etc etc.

Stiggles · 10-06-2011, 18:52

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Originally Posted by the chimp

how the hell do you come up with that one ? Their phone could be in the car, in a different room etc etc.

It makes perfect sense.

If the phone was in another room/car you wont get confirmation of sent message till they read it anyway to which they would most likely reply to it right away.

If without confirmation of sent message, you will know they get it the same way, when they reply.

Like i say, i cant see the need to know unless your stupidly paranoid they might be ignoring you.

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TerryH Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 932	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles I just dont get the hype for BBM. As i have said, there are better apps that can be used for the exact same thing. Even though, as according to their FAQ, it can't tell you when a message has been read.

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08-06-2011, 16:25	#27
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS. I agree with what others have said about WhatsApp. It's a very elegant solution for cross-platform messaging. I have unlimited texts but use it a lot for pictures. And for chatting to my friends without unlimited texts!!

08-06-2011, 16:29	#28
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS. I agree with what others have said about WhatsApp. It's a very elegant solution for cross-platform messaging. I have unlimited texts but use it a lot for pictures. And for chatting to my friends without unlimited texts!! Indeed. Also another thing thats quite good is Viber. Its on thr iPhone but is a beta on Android just now which i got into yesterday and its superb. free calls and messages

09-06-2011, 22:09	#29
darkone338 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 718	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles Blackberry announced ages ago that they intend to bring BBM to Android and iOS. Got a link for that ? Last I read it was an unfounded rumour .. http://crackberry.com/blackberry-mes...6th-not-really

09-06-2011, 22:39	#30
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Having used both, Whatsapp is so much better than BBM in every respect. Your having a laugh, it's not even close.

09-06-2011, 23:04	#31
mills705 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 549	One problem with BBM, is the occasional lack of sending/ receiving messages which isnt related to signal! You an have signal and GPRS or 3g and it wont be sent for ages. Its more to do with RIM than anything network related as it affects most people!

09-06-2011, 23:09	#32
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by mills705 One problem with BBM, is the occasional lack of sending/ receiving messages which isnt related to signal! You an have signal and GPRS or 3g and it wont be sent for ages. Its more to do with RIM than anything network related as it affects most people! Been using it for a few years now and never had such a problem.

09-06-2011, 23:12	#33
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Your having a laugh, it's not even close. Out of interest, what makes BBM better then WhatsApp?

09-06-2011, 23:26	#34
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Out of interest, what makes BBM better then WhatsApp? Ease of use, message read confirmation, by far the most important things.

10-06-2011, 00:16	#35
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Ease of use, message read confirmation, by far the most important things. AFAIK WhatsApp does show if the message has been read and even shows you when the other party is typing and the last time they checked their messages. Although it doesn't use a PIN like BBM it seems dead simple to use. Plus the added advantage of being cross platform. My son uses BBM to chat to his mates, but has also installed Whatsapp on his Blackberry so that he can keep in touch with the rest of the family, none of whom have BBs. Would be far easier if we all could use something for IMs which works on any phone.

10-06-2011, 00:20	#36
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic AFAIK WhatsApp does show if the message has been read and even shows you when the other party is typing and the last time they checked their messages. Although it doesn't use a PIN like BBM it seems dead simple to use. Plus the added advantage of being cross platform. My son uses BBM to chat to his mates, but has also installed Whatsapp on his Blackberry so that he can keep in touch with the rest of the family, none of whom have BBs. Would be far easier if we all could use something for IMs which works on any phone. Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read.

10-06-2011, 00:50	#37
JamesParkin Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Londinium Posts: 1,850	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read. Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy.

10-06-2011, 03:16	#38
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read. Fair enough. But It does show the message has been delivered though. Surely that's enough? http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/#g4

10-06-2011, 09:00	#39
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by JamesParkin Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy. Really :yawn: Quote: Originally Posted by psionic Fair enough. But It does show the message has been delivered though. Surely that's enough? http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/#g4 I was asked what is better about BBM, which was answered, I don't see how having less info could be classed as better, once you have something that is better everything else feels like a step back.

10-06-2011, 11:31	#40
hassan Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,399	My brother actually wants to buy a blackberry just for bbm, yet he doesn't actually know anyone that has a BB. A lot of people are going for blackberry for the bbm service, if it goes multiplatform, it will only be bad for RIM.

10-06-2011, 11:32	#41
cavemanjames Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 617	Quote: Originally Posted by JamesParkin Who cares about that? If pepoe want to get back to you they will, don't sit there expecting a reply because they have received your message. Some people are way too needy. If WhatsApp does have some kind of delivery notification then fair enough... But you can't be 100% certain they've received the message.

10-06-2011, 11:46	#43
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Whatsapp does not show if a message has been read. Yes it does. It shows 1 tick when the message has been sent and a second tick once its been received/read. Anyway, why does anyone need to be sad enough to sit there and wait to see if a message has been read? Surely you will know it was read when they reply! Never understood that or the need for delivery reports.

10-06-2011, 11:49	#44
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by cavemanjames If WhatsApp does have some kind of delivery notification then fair enough... But you can't be 100% certain they've received the message. Yes you can. When they reply! Good god......lol

10-06-2011, 12:55	#45
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	Whatsapp does show that the message has been delivered to the destination device. Apparently it doesn't show that it has been actually read (or understood by the recipient ) On my phone the message pops up on the screen instantly - granted I may not be near the phone at the time but I will see it when I pick up the phone next.

10-06-2011, 14:57	#46
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Yes it does. It shows 1 tick when the message has been sent and a second tick once its been received/read. . Incorrect, 1 tick for sent, 2 ticks only means its been delivered to device, it doesn't tell you its been read.

10-06-2011, 16:12	#47
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Some people don't want a service with read reports, otherwise they can't use that line "sorry, I didn't get your text"

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Time for BBM to Multiplatform??

10-06-2011, 18:29	#48
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp Incorrect, 1 tick for sent, 2 ticks only means its been delivered to device, it doesn't tell you its been read. Weeeeell, if its been received by the device then its obviously been read surely? I mean a box pops up when a message is received so its not like they are going to miss it are they? Anyway, why is this so important? I still don't get why someone who isnt desperate or paranoid needs to know when a message has been read! When the person responds, that's when you know lol

10-06-2011, 18:44	#49
the chimp Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ]]]-- N.F.F.C. --[[[ Posts: 11,635	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Weeeeell, if its been received by the device then its obviously been read surely? how the hell do you come up with that one ? Their phone could be in the car, in a different room etc etc.

10-06-2011, 18:52	#50
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by the chimp how the hell do you come up with that one ? Their phone could be in the car, in a different room etc etc. It makes perfect sense. If the phone was in another room/car you wont get confirmation of sent message till they read it anyway to which they would most likely reply to it right away. If without confirmation of sent message, you will know they get it the same way, when they reply. Like i say, i cant see the need to know unless your stupidly paranoid they might be ignoring you.