nice kid, great little singer, but i'm glad jaI won
Ronans chances ruined by bad publicty
Congratulations to Jai, but I'd rather see Ronan on my TV in the future. I'm not keen on anthemic singers.
Not necessarily. Susan Boyle was favourite to win and she got massive support all across the world and she still came second. Just because someone is a favourite doesn't mean they're going to win.
Originally Posted by RichardFTW:
“Not necessarily. Susan Boyle was favourite to win and she got massive support all across the world and she still came second. Just because someone is a favourite doesn't mean they're going to win.”
“Not necessarily. Susan Boyle was favourite to win and she got massive support all across the world and she still came second. Just because someone is a favourite doesn't mean they're going to win.”
yeah, but susan didn't get negative publicity just days before the final.
You really think people are so shallow that they are influenced by - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...
Originally Posted by lightblues:
“yeah, but susan didn't get negative publicity just days before the final.”
“yeah, but susan didn't get negative publicity just days before the final.”
No, but she did suffer from last-minute backlash.
Originally Posted by lightblues:
“yeah, but susan didn't get negative publicity just days before the final.”
“yeah, but susan didn't get negative publicity just days before the final.”
She did actually. She got a lot of bad press in the final week getting wound up by reporters in the hotel bar etc. Also there was a huge backlash against her being the favourite. It's the same every year - Trial by Media.
If he'd have come last I might have thought so - but he came second. Jai was best in the end - simples.
Originally Posted by SherbetLemon:
“You really think people are so shallow that they take notice of - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
“You really think people are so shallow that they take notice of - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
I'm not sure that's true. How else did Rage Against the Machine get to number 1 if it wasn't for an internet campaign against Simon Cowell?. People love to vote against him and If 10% believe what they read in the papers it could be enough to affect the result IMO
Originally Posted by SherbetLemon:
“You really think people are so shallow that they take notice of - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
“You really think people are so shallow that they take notice of - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
I have not watched this competition except tonight but when I read that story on here today I said that will have a negative effect on Ronan's vote .
Cowell should have kept quite till after the competition.
Rubbish. I voted for Jai because he was better IMO. Pure and simple.
Ronan will probably have a recording career - until his voice breaks, and then he'll be forgotten, when Jai is still going strong...
Ronan will probably have a recording career - until his voice breaks, and then he'll be forgotten, when Jai is still going strong...
Originally Posted by SherbetLemon:
“You really think people are so shallow that they are influenced by - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
“You really think people are so shallow that they are influenced by - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
YES Exactly, people ARE shallow,the voting public are incredibly shallow,check out the profile of the finalists,BGT appeals to the shallowness in people, Cowell knows this and exploits it.
To be honest I think the story helped his vote.
He got loads of tv/press coverage...and almost all of it was sympathetic and rubbished the fix claims.
It would have got him the sympathy vote for the most part.
He got loads of tv/press coverage...and almost all of it was sympathetic and rubbished the fix claims.
It would have got him the sympathy vote for the most part.
^^ I agree with the above. I dont think it cost him anything. People always assume child singers are going to win and then they dont... its happened before.
I was surprised he was second, if it wasn't for all the hype and drama he should have come 5/6th he was not that good
Ronan's chances were not ruined by the publicity. If the publicity affected the voting, he wouldn't have finished in 2nd place just 2.5% behind Jai. I like Ronan and I like his voice. But Jai made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end and gave me goosebumps so, for me, he was a truly deserved winner
Originally Posted by DinkyDee:
“^^ I agree with the above. I dont think it cost him anything. People always assume child singers are going to win and then they dont... its happened before.”
“^^ I agree with the above. I dont think it cost him anything. People always assume child singers are going to win and then they dont... its happened before.”
TBH I liked Ronan much better than Jai, so I suppose I was surprised that so many people liked Jai, who I found a bit boring. It's always a bit gutting when the one you voted for doesn't win. I voted for Razi too.
I also think it was a bad song that did it, As I have not seen him untill tonight and also not seen the press so I judged on what I saw and yes he has a good voice but the whole song was just flat for me and didnt fit right for a lad his age.
Originally Posted by SherbetLemon:
“You really think people are so shallow that they are influenced by - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
“You really think people are so shallow that they are influenced by - or even pay attention to - gossip etc? A handful, maybe, but not enough to make an impact on the vote.
Many people just watch the show and vote for their favourites and haven't a clue what's being said.
Yet another case of the favourite not winning. Happens all the time in horse racing...”
People don't like to think that they are being played. I think this was definitely a factor here.
Originally Posted by flashwilson:
“Rubbish. I voted for Jai because he was better IMO. Pure and simple.
Ronan will probably have a recording career - until his voice breaks, and then he'll be forgotten, when Jai is still going strong...”
“Rubbish. I voted for Jai because he was better IMO. Pure and simple.
Ronan will probably have a recording career - until his voice breaks, and then he'll be forgotten, when Jai is still going strong...”
That's not actually fact. If a voice breaks gradually, than a singer's voice does not change hugely, if trained, just loses slight range. I know from experience. Plus his voice is interesting as it is quite low and strong compared to his speaking voice, so may not be affected all that much. Although he has no chance of reaching the higher notes he did at the end of the performance (unless falsetto)
