A quickie question re "and fall so much lower than he ever has before"

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nattoyaki

06-06-2011

Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“This ep was his "never risen higher" the next ep after the break will be his "fall so much lower".”

I took it as it's all been done and dusted, because at the beginning River said that she couldn't see him him until after/it's all over (I forget exactly what she said but I'm sure that's the gist).

JazzSP8

06-06-2011

Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“As for the falling - the Doctor has always prided himself on being a force for good, and for fun otherwise. Now he's realising how much impact his meddling has on the universe. He's no longer an anonymous nobody that stumbles into trouble, he's raising armies, and armies are being raised against him. He's the reason things are so monumentally messed up.”

This.

I thought that was obvious?

JAS84

06-06-2011

Originally Posted by bowtiesarecool:
“Personally, I think he needs to lose something. Properly lose. Not save the day, not put the fear of god into his enemies. Just lose.

It not only makes a change to the story, it brings out the best in the actors.”

He just did lose. People died so that he could save Melody, but he didn't save her. In fact, since he'd already met River, the adult Melody, it was a fixed point in time and he didn't realise it.

johnnysaucepn

06-06-2011

Originally Posted by JAS84:
“He just did lose. People died so that he could save Melody, but he didn't save her. In fact, since he'd already met River, the adult Melody, it was a fixed point in time and he didn't realise it.”

Exactly. His victory was just a diversion, and he didn't realise it.

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