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Has there ever been a less successful contestant than Vincent?
Le4
06-06-2011
5 tasks, 0 wins. I know the guy who came 2nd last year probably holds the record for most losses, but he did at least get a couple of wins.
Shrike
06-06-2011
Not according to wiki there hasn't. But Tom could yet pip Vincent as he hasn't been on the winning team yet either
parthy
06-06-2011
Poor Tom.
meglosmurmurs
06-06-2011
I remember Katie Hopkins did rather poorly.
When task 9 came along, she was competing as the PM of one team against Tre as the PM of the other team. At that time Tre had won 7 times and only lost 1, whereas Katie had won 2 and lost 6. Of course she then won the last couple of tasks to make her win/loss record look a bit more respectable by the end of the series.

Although doesn't Ruth Badger have the worst record of all.
Possibly the most impressive candidate ever has the worst win/loss record. wtf!
Leatherface!!!
06-06-2011
Originally Posted by parthy:
“Poor Tom. ”

:yawn: Hes boring anyway
Reggie Rebel
06-06-2011
Paul Callaghan - he got fired and Katie Hopkins, that's unsuccessful
Jimmy_McNulty
07-06-2011
If Chris was in this years crop of 'talent', he would win.

Still can't believe he lost tbh.
Monkseal
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I remember Katie Hopkins did rather poorly.
When task 9 came along, she was competing as the PM of one team against Tre as the PM of the other team. At that time Tre had won 7 times and only lost 1, whereas Katie had won 2 and lost 6. Of course she then won the last couple of tasks to make her win/loss record look a bit more respectable by the end of the series.

Although doesn't Ruth Badger have the worst record of all.
Possibly the most impressive candidate ever has the worst win/loss record. wtf! ”

She shares for most losses with Michael Sophocles. Both had 7. Alex Wotherspoon, Sandhurst Ben, Chris Bates, Claire Young, James McQuillan, Katie Hopkins, Liz Locke, Saira Khan, and St Miriam of the Holy Bathwater all had 6.
Jepson
07-06-2011
The actual records of wins v loses is a pretty poor indicator of any candidate's ability.

Apart from the fact that they are mixed with other candidates of varying ability, the capricious nature of some of the rules (some of which we are not privy to), and the fact that sometimes the difference between a win and lose is so small as to be meaningless (apart from within the context of the game), conspire to make such a ranking meaningless with this small a sample size (of tasks).
milmol
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by Leatherface!!!:
“:yawn: Hes boring anyway”

He's boring anyway, sir
Paace
07-06-2011
Being on the losing team is no indicator of how good are bad you are as a manager. Can we really say Edna or Helen are better the any of those that have been fired?

Poor Tom has been right in all his predictions and forebodings but the silly sods of PMs just take no heed. I do hope Tom wins when it's his turn to be PM, he's such a nice guy.
floopy123
08-06-2011
Aside from the week one losers, the ones that get fired straight away, Vincent must rank as one of the all-time worst candidates. Can you have bad luck five times in a row? I doubt it.
Jepson
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by floopy123:
“Can you have bad luck five times in a row? I doubt it. ”

Of course you can.

The outcome of most of the tasks is pretty random, anyway. Whether or not you are on the losing team is really little more than a coin toss.

So there is a 1 in 32 chance of being on the losing team five times in succession and thus we would expect it to happen to some candidate, on average, about once in every two series.
Verence
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“Of course you can.

The outcome of most of the tasks is pretty random, anyway. Whether or not you are on the losing team is really little more than a coin toss.”

That was particularly true of the sort of tasks like the one they did last week where the winner is decided by opinion rather than concrete results
Monkseal
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“Of course you can.

The outcome of most of the tasks is pretty random, anyway. Whether or not you are on the losing team is really little more than a coin toss.

So there is a 1 in 32 chance of being on the losing team five times in succession and thus we would expect it to happen to some candidate, on average, about once in every two series.”

That doesn't factor in the likelihood of getting fired for being on a losing team though. If you factor that in (on the false presumption for statistics that everyone on a team is equally likely to be fired, and leaving out the possibility for an early double boot or quitter a la Series 3 or 5, and presuming Lordalan is going to keep the teams reasonably even), it moves out to (by my no doubt flawed AS Level Maths that someone will shortly disprove) about 1 in 60 for an individual candidate losing the first 5 tasks in a row.

Which would make 2 people out of 108 about right.

(If you expand it out to someone losing any 5 tasks in a row, it becomes more likely obviously, but I doubt to the extent of 1 in 32)

(Have just checked, and Katie Hopkins managed a run of 5 losses in the middle of Series 3 as well, and quite a few people, including some well regarded candidates like Liz, have managed 4)
Butterflies
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by Leatherface!!!:
“:yawn: Hes boring anyway”

He could have won the task if it wasn't for Vincent not listening to him.
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