Whether or not she is driving this or her parents are pushing her, there is no way I'd expose my daughter to this, nor would I let her apply for any talent shows. In my opinion her voice is being trained at an inappropriate level for her age and her vocal chord development, and who's to say what the long term effects on her (physically and mentally) will be?

Also, you only have to read some of the comments on her youtube performances to know that there is a scary amount of hype and hero-worship about her; people calling her an angel; saying she is perfect etc. Give children singing lessons by all means, and let them sing solo in the school choir or whatever, but I firmly believe in children having a childhood.

So it's in the Daily Fail, so it must be true, then? I do think it is proud parents pushing her. She has a decent voice, but she is far too young to sing this material, and a female singing Nessun Dorma would be like Rolando Villazon singing O mio babbino caro - which is about a young girl in love with a boy threatens to throw herself into the Arno in Florence if she is not allowed by her daddy (o mio babbino caro means O my beloved daddy in Italian) to see him. Absolutely ridiculous. She has been pushed to sing Nessun Dorma by producers because it is well known, no other reason.

As a fan I'm sure you would want her to take care of her voice. If she continues to sing this material she will not get her true adult voice which doesn't mature until the late twenties.

I think she's really too young to sing stuff like this, Nessun Dorma, Time To Say Goodbye etc, thinking about it.

I thought she was amazing, but if she came second who came first.....Ah off to you tube to find out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J86CRxMhLA

its this man i believe

Thanks Lisa just watched it, IMO not as good as Jackie.

Its so difficult to compare really isnt it as their genres are so different; I love a classical/musical theatre singer which is why i loved Jai, but i do love the raspy tone to his voice as well He has of course the added bonus that many women will have voted for his handsome rugged good looks lol!

I thought she was amazing too, but this thread has some good points which I agree with about her sounding very adult when singing and singing age appropriate stuff. She should take care of her voice.
She sometimes doesnt sound her age when talking but then theres a little girlish giggle and you remember she's only a child.
As for O Mio Babbino Caro (sp?), isnt that like saying Does Your Mother Know can only be sang from a man's POV? Can't the gender be reversed?

Even when performing an aria, I think you have to keep true to the story. Plus Puccini wrote these arias for particular voices, you can't just change the gender of the subject and make it suitable. It comes from a drama so you have to keep with the story.

On my own from Les Mis is a beautiful song, should a guy sing it? I don't think so, but maybe I'm just a little old fashioned

Jackie apologised on Twitter for her singing on This Morning, saying that the fog machine affected her breathing.
https://twitter.com/#!/jackieevancho

That means she must have been singing live - and she must surely have been too on BGT.

I suspect that her performance on BGT may have been recorded earlier - imagine how long it must have taken to put all of those candles on the stage and light them, then remove them and extinguish the flames.

Expose your daughter to what? What are you talking about?


You have no right to judge her Parents as you dont even know them. Who knows if your kid has a voice or a talent or what anyway.



In my opinion, you arent doing any research on Jackie so you dont really know what you are talking about.
She isnt trained to be an opera singer as her family was told she cant be trained until mid teens. She is coached by Yvie Burnett to lose bad habits and to have better breathe control.


Once again you arent doing your research so I dont know why you have formed an opinion. Thats just your impression.
Read some interviews, articles. She was in the UK because her album is coming out.
Otherwise she would be at home and in school.

Are you her Mother or something? Exposed to media attention, obsessive fans, the $imon Cowell money-making machine, etc.

As a parent, I have every right to form an opinion. My daughter is very talented in singing and dancing, but she's still learning and I believe in her right to a normal, balanced childhood. No, I haven't done "research" into Jackie; I'm commenting on what I see.

I can't understand why you're so overly defensive of her unless you're related.

The people who accuse her parents of pushing her,
nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, they assist her, but
this is HER dream. She does NOT have a pushy stage mother or Parents. Her parents' interest is not in making money off her, either. Their first
priority is seeing that she doesn't sing in a way that would
permanently damage her voice. If you listen to her, you'll hear that
she NEVER "belts" in the upper modal ("normal") register, which is the
main way children damage their voices. She is not being "pushed" by
her teachers or parents sound a certain way; she has simply sui
generis developed her unusual voice.

Jackie's vocal advisor, Yvie Burnett, is a proponent of the Estill
method, which (as you no doubt know, since you are evidently vocal
experts) is known to be gentle on children. It does not focus on
breath support, assuming the singer will learn that elsewhere. Even
so, if you observe Jackie over time, you will see how much her breath
support has improved over the years.


To be sure, Jackie has technical flaws. Her lungs are still small,
requiring frequent breaths & interrupting her phrasing. Adult singers
with full-size lungs obviously also have greater power & depth to
their voices. Her diction on her high notes needs work. She
is unpolished, sometimes inconsistent. She has a mild chin waggle,
which is problematic for SOME vocalists as they age. She shown us very
little of the high, rapid coloratura-type flexibility that lots of
young soubrette & light lyric sopranos have. She uses amplification,
though this is because her parents have been advised against singing
without it until after puberty.

Jackie's technical skills, however, far outweigh her problems. Her
portamento is 2nd to none. She is superb at hiding her passaggi (or
passaggios in English), which she does as well as any opera star in
the world, & better than many. As you no doubt know, passaggi are
emphasized in some types of singing, including yodeling, Bulgarian
folk singing, & some bluesy pop, but in western classical singing
they're suppressed. One can only occasionally heard HINTS of passaggi
on a couple of Jackie's songs, e.g. Ave Maria (Bach-Gounod) & All I
Ask of You, on "downsloping" passages of portamento.


The timbre of Jackie's modal & loft (called "falsetto" by the
scientists) registers have become very, very similar, again, better
than many opera stars. It's now at least as easy for me to hear (e.g.)
Renée Fleming's passaggi & modal-loft transitions as it is to hear
Jackie's; this is true for opera stars of the past as well. Skill in
suppressing passaggi & making modal & loft registers sound similar
allows what you may call "voix mixte," the mis-named "middle register"
in females. (If you agree that "register" is a laryngeal phenomenon
only, the "middle register" doesn't exist. In modal register, the
whole cords vibrate; in loft register, only the mucosal edges of the
cords vibrate. There's nothing in between, which is what the science
tells us.) Opera singers work for years to be able to do these things.
Jackie can do them at 11, with seeming ease. Adults may have more
powerful voices, but for Jackie's size, her rounded vocal color (or
"colour," since you wrote "theatre") & full timbre are nothing short
of astonishing, incredible, perhaps even "impossible." If you listen
to the above-mentioned OMBC, you'll hear the beginnings of low
laryngeal technique, as well as "covering" in the loft register.


Still, all her technical things are really beside the point, because
they're not Jackie's strength. Her technical skills are merely
astonishing. Jackie's strength is the emotional connection she has
with her music & her audience. Has there ever been a singer, of any
age in any genre of any era, whose emotional connections are stronger
than Jackie's? Look around her audiences: you have NEVER seen so many
people at so many concerts WEEPING. Jackie simply makes people CRY,
often uncontrollably, & they frequently don't even know why. She even
makes big bad bikers burst into tears. She reaches in, touches their
souls & melts their hearts. The minor arm movements that seem to
bother you so much are only a small part of this emotional
communication. Some say she's an old soul, or has been touched
directly by God, or is the reincarnation of Jenny Lind (the 19th
century "Swedish Nightingale"), or is the female Orpheus.


At most of her concerts, Jackie doesn't just get standing ovations
after every performance, she often gets them after every SONG. Jackie
did a concert in Houston for Brilliant Lectures a few months ago where
she sang 7 songs & got 7 standing O's. They told her that had never
happened to them before, & their previous guest singers had included
Julie Andrews, a pretty good pop singer, Diana Ross, a pretty good
Motown/R&B singer, & Renée Fleming, a pretty good opera/whatever
singer. All 3 of them were at least semi-arguably the best in the
world at one time or another in their respective genres, yet in terms
of audience response, Jackie outsang them all. She was 10 - TEN!


Of course that should be simply IMPOSSIBLE. How can a little girl
POSSIBLY be as good at communicating emotion as a 40 year old opera,
pop, blues, gospel or country (or whatever) singer? How can she
communicate emotions she hasn't even had yet? Well, there she is. Scan
her audiences, & you'll see it.


It's the combination of her astonishing, "almost impossible" technical
skill & her "utterly impossible" skill at emotional communication that
makes Jackie arguably the most talented young "pure" vocalist in the
history of the world (or at least in the history of recorded music in
the western world). Jenny Lind, who was said to "make grown men cry,"
is the only possible comparison, & barring time travel into the past,
we'll never know if she was this good this young.


Denying Jackie her chance at singing for the world is very much like
saying in Vienna in 1766-67 "Oh, Amadeus, go & play with your friends
in the mud; leave the music ...

Defensive because you formed an opinion about her Parents without doing any research. By doing some research you would find that she lives far away from fans, media attention, and Simon Cowell in Pittsburgh. Her Parents dont even let her read the internet comments. She happens to be flying around doing performances and appearances lately because her album came out in the UK this week. US next week. Im sure your Daughter would like the cd.

But just as you have no right to judge Jackie's Parents, no one has a right to judge you as a Parent.

Where was that copied and pasted from then :s why are you so defensive, no one has criticised her singing, in fact most have just expressed a genuine concern for the childs welfare; surely thats not a negative thing at all; as a mum, i would never let my child enter a talent competition, im not judging but that is my right to state my opinion and believe that children should be able to be children and not have to grow up quickly in a cut throat business!

I think ronan, Jackie and all the other child stars are being groomed for stardom before they are emotionally ready and history does show that a lot of them experience burn out which means shot term success rather than longetivity!

I wasn't judging, I have an opinion, to which I have every right. I'm guessing you're either her Mum or her Agent; I'm not sure which. But you have to understand that music is subjective, and not everybody likes the same thing.

I prefer to see children singing age appropriate songs and those which are technically suited to them; Jackie does neither. That is my opinion.

Why are you posting then if that is your opinion? I dont care for a number of things but I dont post about them.
Frankly im not sure what you consider age appropriate (When you Wish upon a Star? Oh yeah thats on Jackie's cd) but belting out pop songs is much more damaging to a 11 year old girls voice then the way Jackie sings.

Random question (not about this pointless was she/wasn't she miming?) debate.

Is anyone else majorly annoyed that having her on meant that you couldn't help if you watched it but get 'spoilered' completely about AMGT which isn't even broadcast until next week?

Aren't there plenty of soft pop songs and ballads she could sing too though?

My daughter sings Musical Theatre and classical songs, appropriate for her age and singing grade.

Why am I posting? Because I am a member of this forum and as such, allowed to post my opinion.

IMO I must say I found her singing weird - she is a child - and should sing like a child - not an adult what is the point of it all ???:

Ok im sorry if this sounds rude, but from a little bit of googling what is your attachment to this girl? you are on every forum, blog, discussion talking about her!! no this is not an issue of course, i have done similar for my fave contestant, however you cannot come in here and tell people who are having a constrcutive debate about her singing that they cannot post unless they are positive about her! There is such a thing as free speech, as i am sure you know being from the US!

Parent, relative or Agent is my guess, but they are not saying.......However, we are all entitled to our opinion.

I totally agree .. I've always been uncomfortable with child stars .. it works out for some but ends unhappily for others

From what I've seen on the net there are some really disturbing things happining on the net surrounding this young girl (ie forums, her facebook etc) .. whilst there are obviously some genuine fans who merely like her voice and support her there's some creepy posts made by obvious obsessives and some of them I would hate to be written about my child (if I had any)

I know you get crazy obsessive fans with all celebs but when it's young children being obsessed over by adults it's just creepy and disturbing to me

I must admit i havent looked extensively but one name seems to crop up in all of them, and the person has posted here :s There does seem to be some overly obsessive fans!! Now if she was an adult in her 20s then i would say that ok, she can deal with them herself, but for a child of 11 that is a daunting prospect especially when she is said to have "a voice from God" now thats some creepy stuff right there; Poor poor child, i hope she has a good crew behind her or else i dread to think what her life may be like in a few years