I think one of my favourites was "Her rendition of Nessun Dorma is better than Pavarotti". Er....ok....

I'm not a big opera person but Pavarotti's Nessun Dorma is the best version of it ever and definitive IMO.

I've had a dig around, and some of the obsessive are just downright scarey - I know just about every fandom get them but this obsessing over an 11 year old child, a little girl, is really Likewise I hope to hell her parents and team do shield her from it, because no one, let alone an 11 year old little girl, needs or deserves that weight of pressure and expectation.

Glad its not just me who thought this, it really did quite disturb me tbh; No way should an 11 year old be exposed to this sort of thing! Same with Ronan you know, i know of girls in their 20s that are quite explicit about their wishes for Ronan!! Now im sorry but that is just wrong!! :s :s This is the precise reason they should be shielded from this sort of stuff!!

Absolutely. I have a recording of "La Boheme" from when he was younger - in his mid 30s - and his voice then was sublime, and for me, has never been bettered. (And before anyone reminds me that "Nessun Dorma" is not from Boheme, I know - I'm just saying that the period when he recorded Boheme with Mirella Freni was when his voice was at his most stunning).

What I dont understand is why a handful of people refuse to even listen to the person they are ranting about and are so judgemental about. If you took the time to sit down and actually listen to her music and watch her sing, you would likely feel differently then you do and/or move on but you want to criticise based on no evidence. Absolutely zero evidence that shes being pushed, forced in anyway or that she is somehow doing something wrong vocally. I even sent you a clip where she flat out says im not being pushed in anyway, I dont have Stage Parents and as someone else pointed out, you cant force a kid to do anything, we have laws.
The facts are (sorry to introduce facts into this discussion)
she sold a million cds here in the US and thats not because of her fans are obsessed which is your opinion based on reading a few youtube comments its because of her talent.
Some of you criticise her for singing Nessun Dorma but you completely miss the point, the point being is that she is so talented that she can pull off singing Nessun Dorma and do it justice (which most people believe she did, whether you agree or not). The song Nessun Dorma after she performed it on BGT became a trend on twitter, that helps classical music and only makes classical music more popular.

Also, let me point out that she is not an opera singer but a classical crossover singer.

I think the majority of the people here don't need to listen to her to make their judgements about how they feel uncomfortable about the amount of pressure and adulation that's being put on someone so young

I appreciate that she has a pleasant voice . but I still stand by my opinion that I find it creepy coming out of someone so young and I find the obsessive adulation by some to be rather uncomfortable too and it's something I wouldn't want a child of mine to experience ... not Jackie's fault or her parents that some people get that way but it happens

You seem to be completely missing the point that the lyric is from the perspective of a man on the eve of his execution. Why should an 11 year old girl be singing that? It's beyond ridiculous and shows total ignorance on the part of her producers and A&R.


Well, thank the Lord for that because I'm sure no one had heard of the world's most recognisable opera song before Violet Elizabeth performed it on Saturday night. I mean, all the famous tenors who have performed it and recorded it and most notably Luciano Pavarotti ........ who are they?

Get a grip. Jackie Evancho is nothing more than a money-making machine for the record company, management and her greedy parents. Instead of promoting her and promoting sales of her records, have the feeling for her that you should have for a child that is being used but at the moment still thinks it's all a big adventure.

Well she's hardly going to say "Actually, I am being pushed and what I want to do is stay at home and play with dolls", is she. It would probably only be later that she might rebel.

Perhaps in Britain we're less likely to obsess about "stars" of music, stage or screen; certainly less likely to spontaneously weep or give a standing ovation after every song. Call it our "stiff upper lip" mentality if you will. But that also means that fortunately we're less likely to think of child stars as Angels, or perfect, or better than Pavarotti. I think you will have to accept that and not tell people who have opinions that are different to your own that they are "ranting" and judgemental.

I still don't understand why you're being so reticent about your connection with Jackie. Why be so secretive about it?

Judgements based on a complete lack of evidence.
If by adulation you mean standing ovations and cheering then theres nothing wrong with that.



Well what I find creepy is people making assumptions and judgements based on little or no evidence.
Jackie doesnt read the online comments, positive or negative.
Her Parents arent gonna let her read those.
What wouldnt you want your child experience?
To sing in front of an audience?

She might rebel? Why?
Because you are so cynical you believe shes being forced.
This is her dream, she loves to sing. How can you force someone to do something they love to do. A bit of research on your part would have discovered that.


What I should have also added is cynical.
If you bothered to listen to her, you would understand why people call her an Angel, a lot of people have said that and do think shes an Angel. Not an actual Angel but sings like one.
I know people said the same thing about Susan Boyle and other singers.

But let me ask you a question, you wouldnt let your daughter try out for BGT if she wanted to?

I can tell you who is showing the ignorance here.
She is not in an opera, she is not an opera singer.
Therefore shes not subjected to the strict standards that it has to be sung by a male over 30 without a microphone.
Female singers have sang ND before, Sarah Brightman, Katherine Jenkins. They are not opera singers, they are classical crossover singers.
Jackie is a classical crossover singer.
You seem to like classical music but you refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jackie is helping classical music.

The obsessive weirdo fans who go on about her and comment on anything OTHER than her singing need to take a reality check.

I'm sure she does love to sing, and I don't think she's being forced to do what she's doing. Manipulated, maybe, I don't know. But there is a world of difference between a child who loves to sing, and a child "discovered" by a huge money-making corporation and pushed into the media spotlight. She might rebel in later years because she wants to step back out of the spotlight.




I have listened to her; I heard her on BGT and then listened to some of her youtube videos. I still prefer it when children sing age-appropriate songs and, more importantly, ones that they can technically manage. To me, it's a similar mentality to the teachers of the six year old Russian little girl en pointe. Just WHY??

And no, I would most definitely *not* let my daughter apply for BGT, until she's old enough to know exactly what she would be letting herself in for.

No, judgements made on a doing a bit of poking around on line and reading the frankly scarey things posted about this child - the adulation and pressure on an 11 year old little girl is scarey


Assumptions based on what is out there, easily available for anyone to read - some of that stuff is downright delusional. Hopefully she is being shielded from what's written about here and has a great team around her, although in this day and age I'd wonder exactly how much they can shield her


Because she's a little girl who's in the process of growing up, she's not a gift from god, an angel etc, just a little girl who might, one day, decide this is not for her, she doesn't want it - do I enjoy doing the same things I did when I was 11, nope. She might one day grow up and be a magnificent singer, she might not, but right now she's a little girl, and should be allowed to be that, not the object of worship of a lot of people placing unreasonable and delusional expectations upon her.

She's an 11 year old CHILD ffs!

You're just adding fuel to their fire

Who are you posting that to, Tony? Deuce8pro?

I think even the fans who say that she is already perfect at singing, and better than Pavarotti, also need a reality check!

The whole thread. Hasn't this been done to death now? People with an ounce of intellegance should know that she wasn't miming and unfortunately some of the other discussion just gives the youtube and facebook weirdo's more ammo to defend her if you dare criticise her.

Deuce8pro going from forum to forum saying the same thing. Even on a large SuBo site (under another name) telling them what to think about Jackie.

I know more than I'm saying, but Jackie's mother needs to be very carefull in what she says online about Sony/SyCo. Open forums can be read my many and Record Companies have scouts checking forums. She could be in alot of trouble if Sony finds out.

Only scots? Are they cheaper to employ than other nationalities?

LOL

Was looking at another thread while writing.

Funny! Gave me a chuckle

Sounds likely tbh, it doesn't take much digging to find other's too who have posted innapropriate comments under different accounts.

I agree with your point but from a different and personal perspective - we can't wrap our kids in cotton wool forever and the internet is a massive thing.


*doesn't say exactly what wants to for fear of banhammer*

Well, that's a good start to the day.