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Worried about Doriam Maldovar
davrosdodebird
07-06-2011
And why shouldn't I be?

A Good Man Goes to War happens before The Pandorica Opens in River's Timeline. In that episode, she bought a vortex manipulator from Doriam.

But if Doriam lost his head in episode 7, then how could he have given River the vortex manipultor in the first place?

DavidG_UK
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by davrosdodebird:
“And why shouldn't I be?

A Good Man Goes to War happens before The Pandorica Opens in River's Timeline. In that episode, she bought a vortex manipulator from Doriam.

But if Doriam lost his head in episode 7, then how could he have given River the vortex manipultor in the first place?

”

But remember River is a time traveller too. She may have obtained it from him earlier in his time line
davrosdodebird
07-06-2011
Surely she would have needed to travel back in time for that to happen, and before the Vortex manipulator, she apparently had no access to such time travel :/
redrooster555
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by DavidG_UK:
“But remember River is a time traveller too. She may have obtained it from him earlier in his time line”

Exactly. AGMGTW happens after TPO for The Doctor and Dorium. Who knows where it crops up in Rivers timeline, it's complicated by the fact that she's in it twice at different points in her life (In stormcage, fairly late on, on Demon's Run, seemingly early).
AndyGibbard
07-06-2011
Was it confirmed that it took place before PO?
Butterflyy
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by AndyGibbard:
“Was it confirmed that it took place before PO?”

Well what date was that battle supposed to take place? I can't remember, did it say? She got the vortex manipulator from him in Pandorica Opens in 5145 so if Demon's Run is after that then it makes sense
DavidG_UK
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by davrosdodebird:
“Surely she would have needed to travel back in time for that to happen, and before the Vortex manipulator, she apparently had no access to such time travel :/”

Her parents are the Doctor's companions...I think we'll find she did have access from quite an early age
sebbie3000
07-06-2011
Originally Posted by davrosdodebird:
“And why shouldn't I be?

A Good Man Goes to War happens before The Pandorica Opens in River's Timeline. In that episode, she bought a vortex manipulator from Doriam.

But if Doriam lost his head in episode 7, then how could he have given River the vortex manipultor in the first place?

”

Dorium got to Demons Run with the Doctor - who travels in a time machine ...

It would be later than TPO in Dorium's personal time line, obviously!
amos_brearley
07-06-2011
Which also means we can still see Dorium loads more as long as it's earlier in his personal timeline!
andrewj123
07-06-2011
Spoiler
Dorium is in the finale so its not the last we have seen of him! I think he is an odd character - you never know which side he is on
GangerOfAGanger
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by andrewj123:
“
Spoiler
Dorium is in the finale so its not the last we have seen of him! I think he is an odd character - you never know which side he is on
”

and he's blue!
Shrike
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by andrewj123:
“...I think he is an odd character - you never know which side he is on”

Like all the best duckers & divers, crafty cockneys, wheeler dealers, Delboys and Arfur Daley types - he's on his own side
sirnoalot
08-06-2011
How old Is River Song ?
opcws
08-06-2011
Originally Posted by sirnoalot:
“How old Is River Song ?”

It's never been mentioned. The only time we know her exact-ish age is at the end of The Almost People, where she appears to be minus a few minutes old.
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