50th Anniversary in crisis?
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Originally Posted by mikey1980:
“It's unlikely that Eccleston will be involved, I agree - but not beyond the realms of possibility. Like anyone would, I imagine Eccleston will look at the money being offered him. It will also depend on how busy he is with other work committments. And also what sort of role it is.If he's very busy in 2013 he might only want a walk-on role with a couple of minutes of dialogue. Alternatively he might decide it's not worth it unless it's a meaty role which involves some serious acting on his part....
Who knows. I have a hunch that Eccleston will be involved in the 50th Anniversary celebrations.”
“It's unlikely that Eccleston will be involved, I agree - but not beyond the realms of possibility. Like anyone would, I imagine Eccleston will look at the money being offered him. It will also depend on how busy he is with other work committments. And also what sort of role it is.If he's very busy in 2013 he might only want a walk-on role with a couple of minutes of dialogue. Alternatively he might decide it's not worth it unless it's a meaty role which involves some serious acting on his part....
Who knows. I have a hunch that Eccleston will be involved in the 50th Anniversary celebrations.”
He's already said in interviews, quite recently, that he'd never go back.
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“But what kind of story could he write for the 50th anniversary given that everyone wants to see a multi-Doc story, and how can it be executed?
The Tennant fangirls want Tennant to return but he'd probably won't do a multi-Doc story, Eccleston won't come back, ever so who does that leave? about 4 or so fat old, gray blokes that new Who fans either haven't heard of nor would ever care about. So McGann is a possibility but not many folks would want a Smith/McGann story (providing McGann would do it) because it doesn't involve the ye great gurning one, Tennant.
They probably should do a feature length special for the 50th involving Matt Smith but keep the old Doctors out FGS, especially Tennant.”
“But what kind of story could he write for the 50th anniversary given that everyone wants to see a multi-Doc story, and how can it be executed?
The Tennant fangirls want Tennant to return but he'd probably won't do a multi-Doc story, Eccleston won't come back, ever so who does that leave? about 4 or so fat old, gray blokes that new Who fans either haven't heard of nor would ever care about. So McGann is a possibility but not many folks would want a Smith/McGann story (providing McGann would do it) because it doesn't involve the ye great gurning one, Tennant.
They probably should do a feature length special for the 50th involving Matt Smith but keep the old Doctors out FGS, especially Tennant.”
To be honest, I think you are being very rude. Without those '4 fat old blokes.' you wouldn't have a New Series to actually be watching today. I for one would be glad to see them back, even if in a minor role. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary story and not a six year anniversary(or eight as it will be then).
When I first started watching DW, I had huge respect for previous Doctors I hadn't seen before. The Classic Doctors are as much a part of the show and whether they appear or not, they should be treated with respect.
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“To be honest, I think you are being very rude. Without those '4 fat old blokes.' you wouldn't have a New Series to actually be watching today. I for one would be glad to see them back, even if in a minor role. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary story and not a six year anniversary(or eight as it will be then).
When I first started watching DW, I had huge respect for previous Doctors I hadn't seen before. The Classic Doctors are as much a part of the show and whether they appear or not, they should be treated with respect.”
“To be honest, I think you are being very rude. Without those '4 fat old blokes.' you wouldn't have a New Series to actually be watching today. I for one would be glad to see them back, even if in a minor role. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary story and not a six year anniversary(or eight as it will be then).
When I first started watching DW, I had huge respect for previous Doctors I hadn't seen before. The Classic Doctors are as much a part of the show and whether they appear or not, they should be treated with respect.
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Well Said Sir!!!
I must say i thought that was a very rude and unfair remark about the previous doctors. look at them now still doing the conventions still doing the audio plays...its all about showing these fine actors who lets be honest went through and carried dr who through some pretty shocking story some respect
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“To be honest, I think you are being very rude. Without those '4 fat old blokes.' you wouldn't have a New Series to actually be watching today. I for one would be glad to see them back, even if in a minor role. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary story and not a six year anniversary(or eight as it will be then).
When I first started watching DW, I had huge respect for previous Doctors I hadn't seen before. The Classic Doctors are as much a part of the show and whether they appear or not, they should be treated with respect.”
“To be honest, I think you are being very rude. Without those '4 fat old blokes.' you wouldn't have a New Series to actually be watching today. I for one would be glad to see them back, even if in a minor role. This is supposed to be a 50th anniversary story and not a six year anniversary(or eight as it will be then).
When I first started watching DW, I had huge respect for previous Doctors I hadn't seen before. The Classic Doctors are as much a part of the show and whether they appear or not, they should be treated with respect.
”
The 4 fat old blokes comment was not my own personal opinion but how they may seem to NuWho fans who have no idea of the past Doctors seeing 4 ageing blokes trying to squeeze into their old costumes and trying to run around like they were in their 30's but with great difficulty.
They just say managed to pull it off with Davidson in Time Crash, just. And whilst it may be a treat for the older fans to see the heroes of their generation, NuWho fans will be sat wondering who those old geezers are and wondering who turned the telly over to Dads Army.
If a multi-Doc story is going to surface then the furthest they would go back IMO is Paul McGann. Unless they went OTT with CGI but then it wouldn't really be them, would it.
Originally Posted by Dr Ginge:
“Well Said Sir!!!
I must say i thought that was a very rude and unfair remark about the previous doctors. look at them now still doing the conventions still doing the audio plays...its all about showing these fine actors who lets be honest went through and carried dr who through some pretty shocking story some respect”
“Well Said Sir!!!
I must say i thought that was a very rude and unfair remark about the previous doctors. look at them now still doing the conventions still doing the audio plays...its all about showing these fine actors who lets be honest went through and carried dr who through some pretty shocking story some respect”
You're absolutely right. That poster should note that Tom Baker was the one Doctor who took the show to new heights and made it big in America. To just diss that and not care about such a fact is totally disrespectful.
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“The 4 fat old blokes comment was not my own personal opinion but how they may seem to NuWho fans who have no idea of the past Doctors seeing 4 ageing blokes trying to squeeze into their old costumes and trying to run around like they were in their 30's but with great difficulty.
They just say managed to pull it off with Davidson in Time Crash, just. And whilst it may be a treat for the older fans to see the heroes of their generation, NuWho fans will be sat wondering who those old geezers are and wondering who turned the telly over to Dads Army.
If a multi-Doc story is going to surface then the furthest they would go back IMO is Paul McGann. Unless they went OTT with CGI but then it wouldn't really be them, would it.”
“The 4 fat old blokes comment was not my own personal opinion but how they may seem to NuWho fans who have no idea of the past Doctors seeing 4 ageing blokes trying to squeeze into their old costumes and trying to run around like they were in their 30's but with great difficulty.
They just say managed to pull it off with Davidson in Time Crash, just. And whilst it may be a treat for the older fans to see the heroes of their generation, NuWho fans will be sat wondering who those old geezers are and wondering who turned the telly over to Dads Army.
If a multi-Doc story is going to surface then the furthest they would go back IMO is Paul McGann. Unless they went OTT with CGI but then it wouldn't really be them, would it.”
And again I have to point out it is a 50th anniversary. It's not about just New Who Fans but those of us who grew up with Classic Who. Doctor Who is about fans of all ages and not just the New Series Generation. Did you think I was bothered when Troughton and Pertwee came back looking considerably older in The Five Doctors? Not a bit of it. I looked forward to seeing them and they did a great job. And what about the Brigadier and Sarah-Jane Smith? I don't see people kicking of about either of them when they reappeared in the show?
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“You're absolutely right. That poster should note that Tom Baker was the one Doctor who took the show to new heights and made it big in America. To just diss that and not care about such a fact is totally disrespectful.”
“You're absolutely right. That poster should note that Tom Baker was the one Doctor who took the show to new heights and made it big in America. To just diss that and not care about such a fact is totally disrespectful.
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Again the comment was not my own personal opinion of the actors but how they may be perceived by a younger generation. A generation who are only interested in Who from the restart and have zero interest in Classic Who.
I'd myself happily have Tom Baker running around like it was 1979, but could he? and could he look the part? I don't think so. What about Colin Baker, or even McCoy. Could they squeeze into their old costumes and look the way they did back in the 80's, or even 90's? I doubt it.
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“The 4 fat old blokes comment was not my own personal opinion but how they may seem to NuWho fans who have no idea of the past Doctors seeing 4 ageing blokes trying to squeeze into their old costumes and trying to run around like they were in their 30's but with great difficulty.
They just say managed to pull it off with Davidson in Time Crash, just. And whilst it may be a treat for the older fans to see the heroes of their generation, NuWho fans will be sat wondering who those old geezers are and wondering who turned the telly over to Dads Army.”
“The 4 fat old blokes comment was not my own personal opinion but how they may seem to NuWho fans who have no idea of the past Doctors seeing 4 ageing blokes trying to squeeze into their old costumes and trying to run around like they were in their 30's but with great difficulty.
They just say managed to pull it off with Davidson in Time Crash, just. And whilst it may be a treat for the older fans to see the heroes of their generation, NuWho fans will be sat wondering who those old geezers are and wondering who turned the telly over to Dads Army.”
'Old geezers'. Right.
Frankly, who cares whether NuWho fans know them? As I said, it's the 50th Anniversary-it should be for all fans, not just those who've come aboard since 2005.
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“'Old geezers'. Right.
Frankly, who cares whether NuWho fans know them? As I said, it's the 50th Anniversary-it should be for all fans, not just those who've come aboard since 2005.”
“'Old geezers'. Right.
Frankly, who cares whether NuWho fans know them? As I said, it's the 50th Anniversary-it should be for all fans, not just those who've come aboard since 2005.”
Exactlly Tony, i agree with you 100%.
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“And again I have to point out it is a 50th anniversary. It's not about just New Who Fans but those of us who grew up with Classic Who. Doctor Who is about fans of all ages and not just the New Series Generation.”
“And again I have to point out it is a 50th anniversary. It's not about just New Who Fans but those of us who grew up with Classic Who. Doctor Who is about fans of all ages and not just the New Series Generation.”
Yes it's a 50th anniversary and if we could get Docs 4, 5, 6, 7 as they were at the time they did the job great why not. But thats not the case is it.
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“Did you think I was bothered when Troughton and Pertwee came back looking considerably older in The Five Doctors?”
“Did you think I was bothered when Troughton and Pertwee came back looking considerably older in The Five Doctors?”
Pertwee and Troughton always had an aged look.
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“And what about the Brigadier and Sarah-Jane Smith? I don't see people kicking of about either of them when they reappeared in the show?”
“And what about the Brigadier and Sarah-Jane Smith? I don't see people kicking of about either of them when they reappeared in the show?
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Roll all they eyes you like however whilst the Brig and SJS are important characters, characters like them come and go. We are discussing the key role and that is the Doctor not supporting cast.
It just makes me laugh that the Sun prints a "news" story and claims it's an "exclusive" the day after the story has been aired in a thousand and one other places - including Private Eye.
The only part of that article that has a ring of truth about it is that the 14 episodes that we are told have been commissioned have not definitely been announced as being for broadcast in 2012. Until we get that confirmed, we can't say with absolute certainty what is going on. I very much doubt that it means anything else - just trying to be fair.
My personal feeling is that I'd prefer it if the BBC commissioned it on a time scale - say 3 years worth at a time - but we have to take what we are given especially now as the BBc are making huge cuts.
The only part of that article that has a ring of truth about it is that the 14 episodes that we are told have been commissioned have not definitely been announced as being for broadcast in 2012. Until we get that confirmed, we can't say with absolute certainty what is going on. I very much doubt that it means anything else - just trying to be fair.
My personal feeling is that I'd prefer it if the BBC commissioned it on a time scale - say 3 years worth at a time - but we have to take what we are given especially now as the BBc are making huge cuts.
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“Yes it's a 50th anniversary and if we could get Docs 4, 5, 6, 7 as they were at the time they did the job great why not. But thats not the case is it.
Pertwee and Troughton always had an aged look.
Roll all they eyes you like however whilst the Brig and SJS are important characters, characters like them come and go. We are discussing the key role and that is the Doctor not supporting cast.”
“Yes it's a 50th anniversary and if we could get Docs 4, 5, 6, 7 as they were at the time they did the job great why not. But thats not the case is it.
Pertwee and Troughton always had an aged look.
Roll all they eyes you like however whilst the Brig and SJS are important characters, characters like them come and go. We are discussing the key role and that is the Doctor not supporting cast.”
So what you're saying therefore then that another thirty years down the line neither Ecclestone/Tennant or Matt Smith should appear for a big anniversary because they will be too old then?
the Sun, story seems to be a lot about nothing - just because one producer has left dose not mean a thing he will be replaced - and Moffatt and the BBC knows how important the 50th anniversary is and will want to make it the best they can .
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“'Old geezers'. Right.”
“'Old geezers'. Right.”
So they are not old and haven't aged? perhaps you can share their de-aging techniques with the rest of us.
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“Frankly, who cares whether NuWho fans know them? As I said, it's the 50th Anniversary-it should be for all fans, not just those who've come aboard since 2005.”
“Frankly, who cares whether NuWho fans know them? As I said, it's the 50th Anniversary-it should be for all fans, not just those who've come aboard since 2005.”
Because if there was a time for a multi-Doc story involving those actors then that time has certainly passed. If they all looked, acted and sounded as they did during their tenture then yay, great get them on, but they don't.
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“So what you're saying therefore then that another thirty years down the line neither Ecclestone/Tennant or Matt Smith should appear for a big anniversary because they will be too old then?
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“So what you're saying therefore then that another thirty years down the line neither Ecclestone/Tennant or Matt Smith should appear for a big anniversary because they will be too old then?
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That depends on how well they age doesn't it.
CE is 47 now so he'd be 77 then, DT is 40 and would be 70, MS is 28 so would be 58.
Which one of those is going to look as they did or close enough in 30 years time?
I can't see DT running around in a skinny brown suit wearing converse with a 58 year old Billie Piper holding his hand. Can you?
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“That depends on how well they age doesn't it.
CE is 47 now so he'd be 77 then, DT is 40 and would be 70, MS is 28 so would be 58.
Which one of those is going to look as they did or close enough in 30 years time?
I can't see DT running around in a skinny brown suit wearing converse with a 58 year old Billie Piper holding his hand. Can you?”
“That depends on how well they age doesn't it.
CE is 47 now so he'd be 77 then, DT is 40 and would be 70, MS is 28 so would be 58.
Which one of those is going to look as they did or close enough in 30 years time?
I can't see DT running around in a skinny brown suit wearing converse with a 58 year old Billie Piper holding his hand. Can you?”
So basically the New Who generation who started watching it as kids wouldn't want to see those Doctors back then?
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“Pertwee and Troughton always had an aged look.”
“Pertwee and Troughton always had an aged look.”
Seriously? Troughton was only in his forties when he played the Doctor originally! How old are you, twelve?
Originally Posted by tysonstorm:
“not many folks would want a Smith/McGann story”
“not many folks would want a Smith/McGann story”
I would.
To be honest I would be tickled pink if there was simply a cameo scene with Matt Smith & Karen Gillian running down a street one way, to be passed by Paul McGann & Sheridan Smith in the other
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“So basically the New Who generation who started watching it as kids wouldn't want to see those Doctors back then?”
“So basically the New Who generation who started watching it as kids wouldn't want to see those Doctors back then?”
Still waiting........
Originally Posted by Ja88ed:
“I would.
To be honest I would be tickled pink if there was simply a cameo scene with Matt Smith & Karen Gillian running down a street one way, to be passed by Paul McGann & Sheridan Smith in the other”
“I would.
To be honest I would be tickled pink if there was simply a cameo scene with Matt Smith & Karen Gillian running down a street one way, to be passed by Paul McGann & Sheridan Smith in the other
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I don't know much about Sheridan Smith but I would love to see McGann back. Truly deserves another TV appearance. Once was not enough.
Moffet is such a talanted writer that im sure he could find some way of writing these guys in and explaining the aging process.
I have been a who fan for many a long year and if you are doing a 50th anniversery episode i would expect lots of nods to the past otherwise it would just be a matt smith episode
I have been a who fan for many a long year and if you are doing a 50th anniversery episode i would expect lots of nods to the past otherwise it would just be a matt smith episode
Having never watched a classic who episode (at least that i can remember) i would still be very excited to see past doctors in a new episode, it wouldn't bother me one bit what they looked like or even really if they stood there motionless for the whole episode. I'd suggest you just admit defeat on this one, the majority seem to disagree with you.
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