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Can't believe BULLY Zoe got away !!! ARGHH
Can't believe BULLY Zoe got away !!! ARGHH
![]() She is such a bully to Suzie and SOOO UNLIKEABLE !! ![]() She has to go soon !!
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I don't particulary like Zoe either, but I think there's enough anti-Zoe threads already!
Let's keep discussion in one thread?
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Zoe is a bully
I didn't see any evidence of that tonight. I really like Zoe and think she comes across as a nice person. She was only sticking up for herself in the boardroom, like all the other candidates do. I think Susan has more of a nasty streak. |
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Zoe is a bully
I didn't see any evidence of that tonight. I really like Zoe and think she comes across as a nice person. She was only sticking up for herself in the boardroom, like all the other candidates do. I think Susan has more of a nasty streak. Susan needs to stand up for herself upfront rather than saying it afterwards, but that is no excuse for the way Zoe spoke to her. |
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I think Susan has more of a nasty streak.
If that ain't bullying i have no idea what is. |
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Zoe has a very malicious streak and she has it in for Susan - she was SO patronising to her tonight and was desperate to offload blame to her. I cannot stand her.
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Zoe belittled everything Susan was saying (even when she was right).
Susan wanted to pay over £100 for the office furniture. If they'd done that, they'd have lost by £106 instead of £6. So she was wrong there. She was wrong on the cosmetics task. She was wrong to keep asking Zoe what a tonne of rubbish looked like. About the only time I remember Susan being right was in identifying the best product on the beauty treatment task, and I don't recall anyone belittling her for that. Quote:
Zoe was the one who called a conference in the middle of a shopping centre with Susan in the middle taking all of Zoe's abuse whilst the other's just stood and watched.
If that ain't bullying i have no idea what is. |
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i dont like zoe, but i think the right person went, the Chinese girl is indefensible IMO, she showed her true colours in the beauty task and proved what a complete amateur she is, she claimed her forte was cosmetics and she couldn't sell a damn thing, and starts whining and blaming the customers, "nobody has any money around here", no dear you're not personable and you can't sell for s**t.
Right from day one all she's ever done was talk down other people's skills and talk herself up, I remember vivdly after project one when the Iranian girl did a fantastic job in her task, immediately after that task portion of the show was aired, she goes on camera saying "actually she wasn't all that good as a PM". What a cow. She's a complete amatuer and her weakness is going to show, it's all well making a few good observations from the back, but any fool can make random observations and half of the time they'd be right. But it's a complete different ball game when you take leadership and call the shots. Then you have people like the chinese girl who are always going to undermine you. She made a complete random suggestion about paying the office guy for the furnature, a real professional in the trade would not do that, but she has no business sense so made a random, then later because the other team bid £0 [a real person in the trade would not do that], she looked all smug. But it was just a jammy suggestion. No doubt she'll keep harping on about it. If someone involved in the trade were to take away stuff for free, they woud be out of business, the other team made £300 out of the used furnature.. add to that fuel costs, tax, tools and transportation, wages.. It will not go far at all. |
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When was Susan right?
Susan wanted to pay over £100 for the office furniture. If they'd done that, they'd have lost by £106 instead of £6. So she was wrong there. She was wrong on the cosmetics task. She was wrong to keep asking Zoe what a tonne of rubbish looked like. About the only time I remember Susan being right was in identifying the best product on the beauty treatment task, and I don't recall anyone belittling her for that. |
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I didn't see her doing anything wrong
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...no. If they'd paid the £100 they'd still have sold it off somewhere. Iirc, the other team got more than £100 for the office stuff, so had Zoe listened to Susan & offered them the £100, they'd have won.
(Not £106, sorry; got the maths wrong earlier.) You have to allow for the opportunity cost. If they got the furniture, they couldn't do the other thing. If the other team had failed to get the furniture, they would have done something else instead. Impossible to say what, so all you can do is swap them around, in which case paying the extra £100 is enough to sink them. |
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I didn't see her doing anything wrong
![]() It was an exact copy of Jenny bullying Lucinda all the time, all those years ago. |
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Dont think she was that bad, you gotta stand up for yourself in the board room and that young girl is very annoying. The only irritating thing about Zoe is her droning monotone voice and fixed gloomy expression.
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It was an exact copy of Jenny bullying Lucinda all the time, all those years ago.
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zoe had it for susie since that beauty task. very quick to point the finger and generally scapegoat someone to save their own arse
That trait is a hallmark of a mentally weak person with no moral character. shame because i thought zoe was a good candidate. |
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Zoe was not a bully.
Susan showed herself up at the end when she showed the part she really took offence to was when Zoe had to repeatedly tell her it was just as impossible for Zoe herself to weigh the items with her eyes, as it was for Susan. I'm still baffled by what part of that exchange was difficult to understand, does she lack common sense entirely? She comes across very dim, I think Nick was wrong that she "Got" the task, she wanted to PAY more than £100 for the desk items, the other team won by £6 getting them for free, making £300 profit on the desk, Susans plan would have only made her team about £150. I think/hope Zoe will stay longer. |
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...no. If they'd paid the £100 they'd still have sold it off somewhere. Iirc, the other team got more than £100 for the office stuff, so had Zoe listened to Susan & offered them the £100, they'd have won.
Susan's Idea probably would've led to them losing further rather than helping them win. |
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I think we have to be careful when we attach the word bully to someone. Yes, Zoe isn't a pleasant person but I would refrain from using the description of bully just yet.
She did say those uncomplimentary things about Natasha, need other collegues around her to give Susan a telling off in a busy supermarket and generally doesn't seem very personable at all but bully is a term for the downright nasty NASTY people out there which she probably isn't. She's not nice either but I don't feel comfortable calling her a bully. If she realtered her tone when she talks to people then she might come across better but, that is prob just the way she is all the time I would think. She says what she thinks about someone and doesn't care of the feelings which some people will see as bitchy or bullying and others will see as being 'real'. Eitherway, doubt she's gonna win. |
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...no. If they'd paid the £100 they'd still have sold it off somewhere. Iirc, the other team got more than £100 for the office stuff, so had Zoe listened to Susan & offered them the £100, they'd have won.
Any change in the decision made in one instance would radically change the outcome, because one deal has a consequence on another. Suffice to say, I think paying to buy someone's unwanted junk is a terrible business move. If they weren't working for free and had to give themselves a wage and make a profit for sir alan it would be completely wrong to pay for that tat |
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Didnt Susan also query if they should just be taking the rubbish for free, for those two jobs as some of the rubbish was valuable? She mentioned that on the first job and was completely dismissed. She may have been wrong in wanting to pay £100 for the office furniture but she seemed to have a better idea of what they were doing than Zoe.
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Talk about over-react OP, Zoe is not a bully.
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Just as well this isn't Big brother
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Just as well this isn't Big brother
![]() Oh I am looking forward to that time again.
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I think we have to be careful when we attach the word bully to someone. Yes, Zoe isn't a pleasant person but I would refrain from using the description of bully just yet.
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i dont like zoe, but i think the right person went, the Chinese girl is indefensible IMO, she showed her true colours in the beauty task and proved what a complete amateur she is, she claimed her forte was cosmetics and she couldn't sell a damn thing, and starts whining and blaming the customers, "nobody has any money around here", no dear you're not personable and you can't sell for s**t.
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Right from day one all she's ever done was talk down other people's skills and talk herself up, I remember vivdly after project one when the Iranian girl did a fantastic job in her task, immediately after that task portion of the show was aired, she goes on camera saying "actually she wasn't all that good as a PM".
What a cow. Quote:
She's a complete amatuer and her weakness is going to show, it's all well making a few good observations from the back, but any fool can make random observations and half of the time they'd be right. But it's a complete different ball game when you take leadership and call the shots. Then you have people like the chinese girl who are always going to undermine you.
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She made a complete random suggestion about paying the office guy for the furnature, a real professional in the trade would not do that, but she has no business sense so made a random, then later because the other team bid £0 [a real person in the trade would not do that], she looked all smug. But it was just a jammy suggestion. No doubt she'll keep harping on about it.
If someone involved in the trade were to take away stuff for free, they woud be out of business, the other team made £300 out of the used furnature.. add to that fuel costs, tax, tools and transportation, wages.. It will not go far at all. |
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