[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by Soapybubble

I am a bit confused. Sorry, being new I'm still trying to work out how everything works. I don't want to fall out with anyone, of course, and bhvictory I have already upset you once by joking about Bob's twins (though the posts have gone - were they deleted by the moderators? ) Anyway. I'm not sure I understand. Are we not supposed to give negative views on this thread? I kind of thought it was just a discussion, where everyone could say what they thought, just talking about stuff? I don't really understand the point about whether the producers would change things as a result of what is said here (because that's obvious, surely?) Are people not just giving their opinions on what they're watching?

Sorry, I don't want to upset anyone (again) but could someone clarify the position for me please, so I don't inadvertently cause problems in the future! Many thanks.

No nothing wrong with a joke every now and then, I'm all for it...... Maybe we should start a separate thread for soap related jokes....... I'd more than be up for that!!!! Let's just forget about that, I have a tendancy to overreact I do it in all kinds of situations, it's nothing personal......

[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by lotty27

Soapybubble this is an open thread - you can post anything you like on it. All opinions are welcome and some of the best discussion is between people of opposing views isn't it? But that's the glory of THIS thread. We can have opposing views but no one is given any grief and no one insults anyone else by calling them stupid or other such names. Feel free to post exactly what you want. You're safe of this thread I love it!!!

I always say as long as it's not abusive towards people including actors, production crew, etc...... and obviously it must be about Emmerdale, hence the title of the thread......

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Soapybubble

She and Cameron together seem to have all the chemistry of a dead squirrel

A perfect description of Debbie & Cameron

[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

A perfect description of Debbie & Cameron

You don't think Debs and Cameron will last then....... I saw there's as the next wedding..... after David and Leyla, of course....

[Aida]

Originally Posted by lotty27

respectfully snipped

But I don't think you need worry Face of Jack (can I just call you Jack?) TPTB know they are a popular couple with the viewers so they'll have them reuniting - of that I have no doubt.


But I agree with giving her something to do other than angst teenager which has basically been done to death hasn't it? Come ED, do something more original with her.


Great post and I'm sorry Aida but the BIB made me laugh out loud! And is there anything worse than horse-fart?


She was never thick or ditzy when she first appeared was she? She was quite a level headed woman who IIRC was coming across as quite jealous and nasty at times as she was determined to keep Gennie away from her biological father Shadrach. She DID have a cutting tongue (again IIRC) but it was entirely deliberate in those days, not the almost 'slipping out of her mouth before she realises it' like we have nowadays. I'm convinced that Brenda is doped up on tranquilizers at the moment - it's the only explanation I can come up with for her perpetual 'out of it' expression.

Excellent post, Lotty - oot on the toon, again, eh?

Bib - Miss! Miss! (waving hand in air) I can think of a new direction for Orangina - she can become a scarecrow - she wouldn't even have to change her clothing or hairstyle!

I'm afraid I'm not a member of Team Nicola! I've been waiting years for her to get her comeuppance, but it never happens!

I know I'm probably the only one, but I want La Belle Kell back - she could light up the (newly-dismal) caff like a supernova, totter around in her heels and insult people with a sweet smile on her face. Her presence would bring back an echo of the divine Viv whom I (stupidly) used to get angry with and rant about (sometimes) when she was still amongst us, but how I miss her now - terribly!

You're quite right about 'Brenda' - but I'm sure I remember that she was showing signs of uncharacteristic 'ditziness' before Terry died, so we can't blame the meds! Anyone remember this to put my mind at rest?

I like 'Debbie' too, Soapy, I'm a bit of a mardy madam myself so I'm not too bothered by her moods, and besides, she has a lot to put up with from Cain and Charity. I don't know why she and 'Cameron' aren't better together - she's proved her acting skills in the past and he was excellent in 'The Bill' so what's gone wrong?

bhvictory - excellent idea! Why not start your jokes thread and see how it goes?


Off topic: As for that horse - I was standing about five yards away from it and had just bent down to pick up one of the stable cats when it let rip. It sounded like the last trump and smelled indescribable - and the cat got such a shock it practically went into orbit!

The hubba, who'd insisted on coming along to help me resuscitate the sister if the worst happened and the poor creature actually had had colic and had to be destroyed, struck a post and quipped, as the echoes of the fart died away, "Speak on, sweet lips that never told a lie!"

I fell about laughing, as did the vet - the sister gave him a look which could have corroded concrete - mind you, she'd just had to shell out £150 for the emergency call-out fee!

[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by Aida

bhvictory - excellent idea! Why not start your jokes thread and see how it goes?

I had thought about it, although most of my jokes are risque adults only routines which I'm saving for my live performances........ I'll think of something though........

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Aida

As for that horse - I was standing about five yards away from it and had just bent down to pick up one of the stable cats when it let rip. It sounded like the last trump and smelled indescribable - and the cat got such a shock it practically went into orbit!

ROALMFAO

Wouldn't it be great if that happened to Paddy on a call-out? To accentuate the fart's impact the Emmerdale special effects team could make his cap blow off too

[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by bhvictory

I had thought about it, although most of my jokes are risque adults only routines which I'm saving for my live performances........ I'll think of something though........

soap related I mean!!!

[Soapybubble]

Originally Posted by bhvictory

No nothing wrong with a joke every now and then, I'm all for it...... Maybe we should start a separate thread for soap related jokes....... I'd more than be up for that!!!! Let's just forget about that, I have a tendancy to overreact I do it in all kinds of situations, it's nothing personal......

Fine by me.

Originally Posted by bhvictory

You don't think Debs and Cameron will last then....... I saw there's as the next wedding..... after David and Leyla, of course....

Originally Posted by Aida

You're quite right about 'Brenda' - but I'm sure I remember that she was showing signs of uncharacteristic 'ditziness' before Terry died, so we can't blame the meds! Anyone remember this to put my mind at rest?

I like 'Debbie' too, Soapy, I'm a bit of a mardy madam myself so I'm not too bothered by her moods, and besides, she has a lot to put up with from Cain and Charity. I don't know why she and 'Cameron' aren't better together - she's proved her acting skills in the past and he was excellent in 'The Bill' so what's gone wrong?

It was before Terry died (that Brenda started being dim). Definitely.

It's not that I don't think Debbie and Cameron will last, I just don't think they're very convincing at the moment. Maybe it's because they had their relationship in Jersey (so we didn't see that, obviously) then things were strained by the time we got to see anything between them. So we haven't seen much in the way of romance, or passion, tenderness - or even affection! - between them. Personally, I think a few scenes of them actually getting on, sharing a joke, a bit of banter, actually enjoying one another's company would do wonders for the authenticity of the relationship for the viewer. All we seem to see is angst and arguing, without ever seeing (or ever having SEEN) much reason for them actually wanting to be together. She does have a lot to put up from with Charity and Cain but at the moment they seem to only show her in a stroppy mood without anything to balance against it; if they're not careful, she'll be as unsympathetic a character as Nicola!

Talking of the Princess, I also think it's a bit of a shame they've had her revert to being a totally unreasonable (and again, unsympathetic) character after we saw a more vulnerable side to her in the recent storyline of Jimmy's memory loss. I felt sorry for her while all that was going on and wanted them to get back together, but now I'm finding her completely dislikeable again, and the scenes of Jimmy whining "Just let me have Angelica for half an hour, PLEEEEEEEEASE Nico" followed by her screeching "You slept with that TART" (Ma Boswell eat your heart out) on repeat play somewhat dull.

[Melephunk2010]

Originally Posted by Aida

Excellent post, Lotty - oot on the toon, again, eh?

Bib - Miss! Miss! (waving hand in air) I can think of a new direction for Orangina - she can become a scarecrow - she wouldn't even have to change her clothing or hairstyle!

I'm afraid I'm not a member of Team Nicola! I've been waiting years for her to get her comeuppance, but it never happens!

I know I'm probably the only one, but I want La Belle Kell back - she could light up the (newly-dismal) caff like a supernova, totter around in her heels and insult people with a sweet smile on her face. Her presence would bring back an echo of the divine Viv whom I (stupidly) used to get angry with and rant about (sometimes) when she was still amongst us, but how I miss her now - terribly!

You're quite right about 'Brenda' - but I'm sure I remember that she was showing signs of uncharacteristic 'ditziness' before Terry died, so we can't blame the meds! Anyone remember this to put my mind at rest?

I like 'Debbie' too, Soapy, I'm a bit of a mardy madam myself so I'm not too bothered by her moods, and besides, she has a lot to put up with from Cain and Charity. I don't know why she and 'Cameron' aren't better together - she's proved her acting skills in the past and he was excellent in 'The Bill' so what's gone wrong?

bhvictory - excellent idea! Why not start your jokes thread and see how it goes?


Off topic: As for that horse - I was standing about five yards away from it and had just bent down to pick up one of the stable cats when it let rip. It sounded like the last trump and smelled indescribable - and the cat got such a shock it practically went into orbit!

The hubba, who'd insisted on coming along to help me resuscitate the sister if the worst happened and the poor creature actually had had colic and had to be destroyed, struck a post and quipped, as the echoes of the fart died away, "Speak on, sweet lips that never told a lie!"

I fell about laughing, as did the vet - the sister gave him a look which could have corroded concrete - mind you, she'd just had to shell out £150 for the emergency call-out fee!

Ah she was just as ditzy before. Remember when Hazel was working in the cafe and told Brenda about her letter she'd recieved about the Amazon Basin? Brenda asked her if it was because the plug was too big.....

And when she (hazel) was having breakfast with Jackson, she referred to him as somebody/something else, for a laugh, and Brenda said "No, He's Jackson" or something along those lines....

[Aida]

Originally Posted by Melephunk2010

Ah she was just as ditzy before. Remember when Hazel was working in the cafe and told Brenda about her letter she'd recieved about the Amazon Basin? Brenda asked her if it was because the plug was too big.....

And when she (hazel) was having breakfast with Jackson, she referred to him as somebody/something else, for a laugh, and Brenda said "No, He's Jackson" or something along those lines....

Laughing - yes - I remember! Thank you, sweetie!

[curlypubes]

Nice post Lotteh. Had to open a bag of popcorn to read it . Anyhoo, the thing about the pigeon was very minor and I don't know why I thought it was sad . It was when Rhona came into Smithy after Paddy blew her off and Marlon sensed she was upset and she was telling him not to encourage her (to cry) as she had been getting emotional very easily lately, giving an example of a pigeon she saw that had its leg "all twisted", at which point she welled up and couldn't finish her story. I hope the pigeon was okay

Even though she's vile, I'm actually Team Nicola - that said, her battle for sole custody is still unbelievable - but there will always be 'soap bitches' and she's one of them. Maybe I tolerate her because she was one of the first 'feisty young females' the show had before this sudden influx. Anyway, I was watching the episodes where Tom King is murdered online and Jimmy was seemed really rough and arrogant back. Obviously Nicola took possession of his balls (I wonder if she'll get to keep sole custody of them too ) and strapped them to herself, as well as the balls of any other former lovers she had. I think Nicola and Jimmy would work well if Jimmy was a bit more fierce again. Nicola can still be interesting without him but I can't say the same for him, without her (IMO). I can't see them staying apart though. I predict they'll be back together either just before the divorce goes through, or shortly afterwards, and then they can have another wedding which, guess what, doesn't go according to plan .

[Chocolate Monke]

Originally Posted by Aida

Well, either I've caught your virus (hope you're soon feeling lots better), Chocolate Monke, or I'm losing my marbles - it took me until Brenda, in her new 'village eejit' role was shown how to operate the coffee machine to realise that it was the cafe - up to then I thought it was someone's living-room!
Incidentally, several of those wallpapers people dislike so much are actually from the Sanderson modern range - William Morris must be turning in his grave!

Hoping to get a clear watch of the entire eppy tomorrow - although with my luck it'll just be Aaron and the Quirke staring glumly at each other and repeating, "It was what he wanted!"

I'm already feeling a lot better today thanks, although I am now a little bit EEK! at the knowledge that there's been a nice outbreak of headlice amongst my little treasures! (I'm a teacher) I'm already beginning to itch!

Your comment on Aaron and Hazel made me laugh. My God it's really grating on me! It's been great to have a bit of a break from that storyline. We really need some comedy now to balance out all the misery. Come on writers, take a few tips from Corrie.

Originally Posted by Soapybubble

Brenda's character development has always irked me. It's not because of the way the character is per se, but because she wasn't stupid or completely without tact when she first arrived - and then suddenly she was. What was the deal with that?! Because of that, it really grates on me when she says something that is (now) typically stupid or insensitive.

Aah you're hoping for some consistent characterisation? There's loads, just not when it doesn't satisfy the writers. The writers want a funny ditz? Just turn Brenda into one! Want a stressed new mum for when the midwife pops over?! Just turn Ronah into one. For a day. Then turn her back the next day.

Originally Posted by bhvictory

Nothing wrong with that, but I don't know why people bother complaining, nitpicking, criticising, or whatever you wanna call it....... I mean it's not like the production team and writers are going to change things just to suit a mere fraction of it's viewing audience.........

I mean fair enough, I admit there are storylines which I think could have been a bit better or characters I wish could have stayed a little longer etc........ But at the end of the day it's the producer's decision on how the show progresses and I prefer to take it as it is....... I'm not saying everyone does, but it's what I do.....

Emmerdale is what it is and I like to praise it and moan about it as it is. Sometimes I like to moan more than I praise! Where's the fun in always saying how great everything is all the time? Sometimes people I know annoy me. I don't say anything in case I cause upset. But a soap's a soap. Noone's going to sob if I say that the Jackson storyline bored me in the end. If it annoys me, I can come on here and have a little vent, laugh at other people's rants, and see other people's opinions. And if I really like it, I'll come on here and say so. I won't be nasty about it, because I love the show. I just don't love everything about the show at the moment. Which is how it should be. It's entertainment, after all and this is a great place to discuss the positives and negatives of it.

Originally Posted by curlypubes

If everyone stayed positive for the purposes of being fans, we'd all be agreeing on the same thing which would get dull and leave no chance of a healthy debate. For example, I quite like Chas as a character, whereas others here don't, but I like reading their views and contrasting them with mine

The 'nitpicking' is just us, as fans, pointing out areas in the show which we feel need improving. I still watch the soap and I obviously find it entertaining enough to always tune in, but there will always be things I don't like. Even last year during the amazing Wylde drama, Aaron's coming out, and Holly's drug story, there were things I disliked despite all three stories being incredibly well written. Realistically, no one likes everything, there will always be negatives as well as positives. It just happens at the moment there are more negatives than positives. I blame it on having not seen Gennie for a while. I miss her

Exactly.

Originally Posted by lotty27

But I'm an optimist and I'm hoping that once this AS storyline is resolved it might end up picking up again - it's so damned depressing. ED seems to be trying to outdo EE in the misery stakes at the moment.

I don't blame Nicola one bit for divorcing him after his behaviour with Kelly however I don't think she could be more wrong in trying to keep Angel away from Jimmy. Typical of her though. What Jimmy did had NOTHING to do with his abilities as a father and let's face it, he's a good dad. Nicola did not get this child by herself and women like her get right on my wick. If he was a danger to the child I would be agreeing with her 100% but this is just her going for the jugular revenge wise and it's not on.

However, to me, this aspect of the storyline is ridiculous. Would Nicola EVER chance her luck like this knowing that it's HER who has a criminal record for biting a child and that if Jimmy pushed this angle she could end up losing her? I doubt it but this is ED and it IS adding an extra dimension to the storyline.

But I don't think you need worry Face of Jack (can I just call you Jack?) TPTB know they are a popular couple with the viewers so they'll have them reuniting - of that I have no doubt..

I agree with everything you've posted about Jimmy and Nicola!

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

ROALMFAO

Wouldn't it be great if that happened to Paddy on a call-out? To accentuate the fart's impact the Emmerdale special effects team could make his cap blow off too

Aaah but does he treat horses? Isn't he scared of them?

[mr. mustard]

How much slower can Emmerdale get? The storylines are inching forward at a snail's pace None of them are interesting and all are repetitive It's like Groundhog Day in the Dales.

It feels as if the shark's well and truly been jumped now. I couldn't wait for the end tonight, sick of the miserable gobs of Paddy, Rhona, Orangina and all the others beset by problems mainly of their own making.

Thank god it's off for two days, I've had enough for the time being.

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Monke

Aaah but does he treat horses? Isn't he scared of them?

Probably - he's scared of most things in life

[bhvictory]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Monke

Emmerdale is what it is and I like to praise it and moan about it as it is. Sometimes I like to moan more than I praise! Where's the fun in always saying how great everything is all the time? Sometimes people I know annoy me. I don't say anything in case I cause upset. But a soap's a soap. Noone's going to sob if I say that the Jackson storyline bored me in the end. If it annoys me, I can come on here and have a little vent, laugh at other people's rants, and see other people's opinions. And if I really like it, I'll come on here and say so. I won't be nasty about it, because I love the show. I just don't love everything about the show at the moment. Which is how it should be. It's entertainment, after all and this is a great place to discuss the positives and negatives of it.

Sometimes people just do negative comments for the sake of it though.......... I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, but some people will go to such lengths as to try and pick out faults when there aren't any....... The producers and the writing team carefully plan storylines and scenes thoroughly before putting them to work to ensure accuracy.... I think they know what they're doing........... There.... not just praise for the show, but the behind the scenes team too.......

[Melephunk2010]

Originally Posted by bhvictory

Sometimes people just do negative comments for the sake of it though.......... I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, but some people will go to such lengths as to try and pick out faults when there aren't any....... The producers and the writing team carefully plan storylines and scenes thoroughly before putting them to work to ensure accuracy.... I think they know what they're doing........... There.... not just praise for the show, but the behind the scenes team too.......

I do agree, i have seen a few people like that recently. Of course everyone's got as much right to express what they think could have done better, but i do think some can read FAR too much into things.

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Melephunk2010

I do agree, i have seen a few people like that recently.

If these negative types aren't present on the thread I don't really get why we've had posts about them here Personally I much prefer discussing Emmerdale to judging other FMs.

But as the issue of 'finding fault' keeps cropping up, here's my take on it. I think it's a big mistake to portray criticism as 'complaining' or 'negativity'. Negativity suggests that the viewer starts out with a downer on the subject to begin with. In 99.9% of criticism I don't believe that's the case. I think it's simply a matter of taste and if someone perceives a deterioration in quality it's not making a complaint or moaning to say so - it's just being honest.

It's those who blindly worship things, disregarding obvious flaws who are the truly negative ones. They often put down others who they disagree with in a very intolerant way. Their tunnel-vision outlook means they can never grasp what a forum's actual purpose is - to be a place where strong criticism should be tolerated just as much as high praise, without being called 'negativity'.

[Aida]

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

If these negative types aren't present on the thread I don't really get why we've had posts about them here Personally I much prefer discussing Emmerdale to judging other FMs.

But as the issue of 'finding fault' keeps cropping up, here's my take on it. I think it's a big mistake to portray criticism as 'complaining' or 'negativity'. Negativity suggests that the viewer starts out with a downer on the subject to begin with. In 99.9% of criticism I don't believe that's the case. I think it's simply a matter of taste and if someone perceives a deterioration in quality it's not making a complaint or moaning to say so - it's just being honest.

It's those who blindly worship things, disregarding obvious flaws who are the truly negative ones. They often put down others who they disagree with in a very intolerant way. Their tunnel-vision outlook means they can never grasp what a forum's actual purpose is - to be a place where strong criticism should be tolerated just as much as high praise, without being called 'negativity'.

Yeah - what he said!

Imagine the panic which descended over the producer Blackburn as he realised that once the viewing audience had dashed the tears from their eyes over St. Tumnus breathing his last and witnessing Aaron's record-breaking sprint to the field beyond the cricket pavilion - there was nobody lined up to carry the essential Emmerdale angst!

Luckily he remembered the Three Stooges and baby, and, in the twinkling of an eye, transformed two of them into The Straight Glums and (presumably) instructed Marlon to give his arms and eyebrows a good 'happy' workout and simultaneously be as irritating as possible - an assignment he fulfilled to perfection.

Meanwhile, in Brenda's living-room - sorry - I mean 'the caff', Aaron looked positively jovial for the first time since last October - poor lad - little does he realise he'll be needing the tear-stick again very soon - while Sandy, no doubt comforting himself by thinking of the regular money coming in and trying to forget his distinguished past roles, got the plum part of elderly buffoon who can't manage to grasp a 'designer mug'!

Finally, and to my joy, everybody had a go at Orangina - no doubt her next port of call will be on Hazel to ask if she has any of 'the mixture' left over - I mean, it's all of a week since we had a suicidal 'yoof'!

Well, I wonder what delights next week has in store for us, amici?

Hope y'all have a lovely weekend!

PS: Message to Chocolate Monke - 'Lyclear' and a good, strong 'nit' comb are your friends - although I'm sure as a teacher, you know more about the remedies and protection than I do! I'm starting to feel itchy for you!

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Aida

Finally, and to my joy, everybody had a go at Orangina - no doubt her next port of call will be on Hazel to ask if she has any of 'the mixture' left over - I mean, it's all of a week since we had a suicidal 'yoof'!

What the hell was she wearing tonight? It made her look like an extra from a zombie film

[Aida]

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

What the hell was she wearing tonight? It made her look like an extra from a zombie film

Laughing - she always looks like an extra from a zombie film to me!

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Aida

Laughing - she always looks like an extra from a zombie film to me!

Goodnight Aida

[Aida]

Goodnight, sweet prince!

[Angela Channing]

Good Morning Darlings!

[Aida]

Buon giorno, Madama!

Have you been away to Lourdes yet, or were you just kidding?

Back to happenings in t'village - I like to keep abreast of what's happening on other threads, although I don't often comment on them - and I see young Aaron has been criticised for daring to smile so soon after the demise of St Tumnus!

Personally, I think he's shown great restraint - if I was him, I'd have been so relieved to be rid of the miserable so-and-so for good, I'd have worn a scarlet shirt and danced a samba through the village waving maracas.

Oh dear - there I go again - evil Aida forgetting that Davros was 'the love of his life' on the strength of being the first bloke who ever kissed him - four or five times!