[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by valtimmy

Yes I agree. Jerry's bouquet must have cost a bit. Did you see it? It was lovely.

He didn't buy that in Layla's

[Angela Channing]

With all the vice,murders,deaths,assaults,arson,accidents in Emmerdale its a wonder the village does not have any of the following.

A Doctor
An Undertaker
A Solicitor
A resident policeman

[Melephunk2010]

I can see Jerry attacking Aaron if, after the supposed court case, the charges against him are dropped.

[wildyounghearts]

Originally Posted by Angela Channing

With all the vice,murders,deaths,assaults,arson,accidents in Emmerdale its a wonder the village does not have any of the following.

A Doctor
An Undertaker
A Solicitor
A resident policeman

A Doctor- don't need a doctor- they have three vets and as Paddy told 999 'it's the same thing'

An Undertaker- don't need one- it's usually a crime scene and the police have to take the bodies away for a post mortem

A Solicitor- don't need one- they get their advice from google and t'intenet and rely on DNA tests (if they remember to get one)

A resident policeman- don't need one- the residents never report the numerous criminal offences that take place to the police usually choosing to bribe the criminal instead- plus- Cain's got immunity

[lotty27]

Originally Posted by maisymoo

They should kick out Quirke to EastComas where she belongs (take Kelly with you Mrs) and bring back Seth Armstrong. Yes, I know he's dead, but given that Emmerdale is now "Look at my rack" he'd still be an improvement.

- I have to agree though, the boob count is incredibly high at ED. As I've said before it's another example of ED being ran by NUTS mag fans with possibly some Year 10 work experience lad being allowed to join in occasionally I mean, how many of us know women who continually dress with their boobs SO on show that they could have a nip slip at any moment? Amazingly Chas managed to keep hers covered this week.

Originally Posted by Aida

The funeral situation is quite ridiculous for the precise reasons you've highlighted, Angela - as is the notion that some sickeningly sentimental 'final recorded message' from Jackson should form part of any service! Surely all of his mawkish drivel would be held by the police as evidence to present to the DPP?

As for the Quirke, she doesn't just want to have her cake and eat it, she wants everyone else to admire it and give her some kind of reward for 'baking' it!



Well, I certainly disliked Eli and Shadrach so wasn't at all sorry to see them go, but as you say, the unity of old is gone - at one time the entire remaining clan would have dropped everything to fly to Lisa and support her in her recent hour of need.

Your point about the vilification and chavication of the village is also all too true - and the various stories are so disjointed that it appears, to me, that 2 to 3 writers are given the task of writing for 2 or 3 of the currently-popular-with-the-producer characters - but they write in isolation, so that the end result is that nothing at all 'hangs' together properly.

I can imagine the scene at the monthly planning meeting where everything is being (badly) cobbled together and someone realises that none of the established cast has been given as much as a line of dialogue.

Panic ensues, until someone says, "Oh, just bung the oldies in the pub and give them a line or two each - yes - and you better shove the vicar and what's-her-name - you know, his wife - in there too! Nobody'll notice as long as there's plenty going on with 'Aaron' and the rest of the teens! Our audience loves them - and let's face it, their dialogue isn't hard to write!"

I don't know why we're so surprised, this has crept in insidiously since that bliddy train failed to annihilate St Jackson - my worst fears about the future direction of the show were realised when the majestic sweep down part of the Vale of York which opened the programme was swapped for a car and furniture ad set to music which sounds like a ice-cream van whizzing past at speed!

As a measure of how far our beloved 'Emmer' has fallen, if you feel strong enough, have a look at the thread discussing the need to give 'Edna' a storyline which includes such gems as bestiality, inventing a shady past for her, and, finally, giving her dementia!
You can imagine how utterly thrilled I was to read that last suggestion!

God help us and save us!

Great post and I particularly agree with what I've bolded. And I couldn't believe it when I saw that bestiality comment! I knew that was the time for me to exit that thread.

And I totally agree re dementia: After losing my much loved mother in law to it in January it's still a bit raw (very bad alzeimers, husband only child, incredibly gruelling and heartbreaking last few years), watching my own beloved Grandma and Uncle suffer dreadfully over the years and feeling so helpless, it's not exactly something I'd want to watch for entertainment either. Besides, they'd only make a hash of it and the whole story would be wrapped up within a month at the most.

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

Charity seems to be isolated more than the rest. She's hardly been involved at all with what's happened to Aaron and is rarely seen with Debbie. At other times she seems close to Chas, but this occurs mainly when a raucous booze-up's on the agenda.

I wouldn't miss Cain, Chas or Charity if they left. Cain & Chas in particular have become dead wood. I still think there's potential for Zak & Lisa but they're probably too old to get a major storyline from the present writers.

Charity IS isolated. Did we even see her have a scene with Lisa? She hasn't been near Chas, her so-called best friend and cousin, during this traumatic time for her as she's more bothered about dodgy TV's. Says it all about the writing really.

Originally Posted by valtimmy

Yes I agree. Jerry's bouquet must have cost a bit. Did you see it? It was lovely.

Now I think about it I do find it odd that he'd bring a large boquet like that (gorgeous though wasn't it?) When I first saw it I was wondering who it was for - 'not Hazel surely?' I was asking myself! But wouldn't a rather traditonal man like him have waited for the funeral and provide a floral tribute then?

Originally Posted by wildyounghearts

A Doctor- don't need a doctor- they have three vets and as Paddy told 999 'it's the same thing'

An Undertaker- don't need one- it's usually a crime scene and the police have to take the bodies away for a post mortem

A Solicitor- don't need one- they get their advice from google and t'intenet and rely on DNA tests (if they remember to get one)

A resident policeman- don't need one- the residents never report the numerous criminal offences that take place to the police usually choosing to bribe the criminal instead- plus- Cain's got immunity

Brilliant - but oh so true. Which is sad really.

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by wildyounghearts

A Doctor- don't need a doctor- they have three vets and as Paddy told 999 'it's the same thing'

An Undertaker- don't need one- it's usually a crime scene and the police have to take the bodies away for a post mortem

A Solicitor- don't need one- they get their advice from google and t'intenet and rely on DNA tests (if they remember to get one)

A resident policeman- don't need one- the residents never report the numerous criminal offences that take place to the police usually choosing to bribe the criminal instead- plus- Cain's got immunity

I think you're right!

Its such a pity though that they don't introduce characters who have a profession or trade other than landing on one's back

[wildyounghearts]

Originally Posted by Angela Channing

I think you're right!

Its such a pity though that they don't introduce characters who have a profession or trade other than landing on one's back

[Aida]

Originally Posted by wildyounghearts

A Doctor- don't need a doctor- they have three vets and as Paddy told 999 'it's the same thing'

An Undertaker- don't need one- it's usually a crime scene and the police have to take the bodies away for a post mortem

A Solicitor- don't need one- they get their advice from google and t'intenet and rely on DNA tests (if they remember to get one)

A resident policeman- don't need one- the residents never report the numerous criminal offences that take place to the police usually choosing to bribe the criminal instead- plus- Cain's got immunity

You're quite right, Wildy - and believe me, you'd need a very well-salaried profession to afford as much as a cottage in a Yorkshire village these days.

It also irks me that there are no creative characters featured - there used to be a television show up here in our neck of the woods called 'Dales Diary' where the presenter walked the Yorkshire and Durham dales (and sometimes Cumbria) meeting local artists, writers, sculptors, farriers who created all kinds of attractive metalwork as a sideline, craftsmen who restored antiques or created handmade musical instruments - only a few of them were making a fortune, but most were making a good living - and the list of crafts and skills was endless.

Couldn't we have a really nice, late thirties couple, gay or straight, move in to the village, one an artist, the other a writer but neither nationally famous, both friendly to the other villagers but perfectly happy and contented with one another and not given to sudden inexplicable murders or hiding dark secrets and unsavoury pasts?

No? I thought not - we weren't even granted a sweet and normal love affair between Gennie and the lovely Nikhil as he was!

As you were then, Emmerdale, let's just stick with slappers, thieves, chav teenagers and non-stop sensational turmoil!

PS: Enjoyed the posts this afta and 'bonded' particularly with Lotty's - I've always loathed Orangina and now I'm wondering if part of my loathing is due to me being an 'adopted' North-Easterner and absolutely hating seeing this area represented by such a despicable character.

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by lotty27

If you were those two would you have wanted that lying, cheating, manipulative little scumbag anywhere NEAR such an occassion after what she'd done?

Not a fan of Orangina then Lotty?

[lotty27]

Originally Posted by mr. mustard

Not a fan of Orangina then Lotty?

Does it show?

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by lotty27

Does it show?

Not at all

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by Aida

It also irks me that there are no creative characters featured - there used to be a television show up here in our neck of the woods called 'Dales Diary' where the presenter walked the Yorkshire and Durham dales (and sometimes Cumbria) meeting local artists, writers, sculptors, farriers who created all kinds of attractive metalwork as a sideline, craftsmen who restored antiques or created handmade musical instruments - only a few of them were making a fortune, but most were making a good living - and the list of crafts and skills was endless.

Couldn't we have a really nice, late thirties couple, gay or straight, move in to the village, one an artist, the other a writer but neither nationally famous, both friendly to the other villagers but perfectly happy and contented with one another and not given to sudden inexplicable murders or hiding dark secrets and unsavoury pasts?

No? I thought not - we weren't even granted a sweet and normal love affair between Gennie and the lovely Nikhil as he was!

Wouldn't that be wonderful,I wouldn't care if they were gay,straight or communist so long as they were not trashy sex maniacs.A village crafts barn or art studio is quite common in the country.The nearest Emmerdale got was Hazels short lived painting classes.

I'm also thinking about the next owner of Home Farm,I think we need some old money to take up the reigns as they past 2 families haven't lasted too long.

If I'm offered the role I want to style myself like this grand Dowager

http://wearewhatwelove.com/Fabiola2.jpg

Spoiler

(ps that's not me its Queen Mother Fabiola of Belgium but you catch my drift)

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by lotty27

Does it show?

I don't think she'd have too many fans!

[mr. mustard]

Originally Posted by Aida

It also irks me that there are no creative characters featured

The Quirke's art classes didn't last long. Other than that the only creative act I can recall is Rodney writing Rollercoaster Rod

[lotty27]

Originally Posted by Angela Channing

Wouldn't that be wonderful,I wouldn't care if they were gay,straight or communist so long as they were not trashy sex maniacs.A village crafts barn or art studio is quite common in the country.The nearest Emmerdale got was Hazels short lived painting classes.

I'm also thinking about the next owner of Home Farm,I think we need some old money to take up the reigns as they past 2 families haven't lasted too long.

If I'm offered the role I want to style myself like this grand Dowager

http://wearewhatwelove.com/Fabiola2.jpg

Spoiler

(ps that's not me its Queen Mother Fabiola of Belgium but you catch my drift)

BIB: For some reason that made me laugh out loud, my hubby and mum were engrossed in The Royal (rec it earlier) and I not 'arf made them jump Also made me look a bit like a loony-tune!!

But you and Aida are spot on, every 'nice' village you go to has a arts and/or craft shop and they have mentioned in the past those mysterious 'coach trips' which land at the Woolie for lunch which means that ED is on the tourist trail, so therefore it seems reasonable that it would have touristy shops like that?

I also agree that it would be nice to have some real, proper 'toffs' at Home Farm for a change, mind you, the old families have probably ran out of money to be able to afford such things by now! Maybe they could have some slightly eccentric retired actor or musician and their family move in? They like buying up old properties don't they?

EDIT: And that lady certainly looks like a Grand Dame! I bet it really is you

[narobi83]

If I remember rightly I always found Chas's attire when she initially turned up to be far more garish than what we see her in now. I'm also not refering to the Nun's habit. When I first learned she'd be given a central role and placed in The Woolpack I was worried but I actually find her presence there to be quite refreshing. Obviously we're not all going to like the same characters and while one may have their favourite it will probably be disliked by someone else. I mean even Marlon has his fans.

With the Macey's departing no doubt we'll be getting a new family in Home Farm, I'd actually like to see a family who's a little more down to earth and will find it easier to intergrate with the rest of the village. Perhaps a couple who were both professional but now retired in late 30's early 40's and looking for something new to do with their lives, such as a footballer and model. The wife could open a beauty salon where the old factory was in the B&B and offer treatments to the guests, the writers could also remember Gennie's past as a hair dresser and give her a job there.

Also should Hazel end up behind bars for her crime a spin off show called HMP Hotten would be most welcome. I'd love to catch up with Steph Stokes, Jasmine Thomas and Natasha Wylde.

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by narobi83

With the Macey's departing no doubt we'll be getting a new family in Home Farm, I'd actually like to see a family who's a little more down to earth and will find it easier to intergrate with the rest of the village. Perhaps a couple who were both professional but now retired in late 30's early 40's and looking for something new to do with their lives, such as a footballer and model. The wife could open a beauty salon where the old factory was in the B&B and offer treatments to the guests, the writers could also remember Gennie's past as a hair dresser and give her a job there.

Can the new owners have a waspish old matriarchal granny?

She doesn't have to live at Home Farm.Holdgate Farm would be a most suitable dower house once the Sharma's are turfed out & all that ghastly wallpaper is torn down

[tinkie]

Some superb posts, I have finally caught up and there isn't much that I can add, likewise on the thread about Edna, I got to the post about bestiality and dementia and thought Dear God what is wrong with people these days, all I ask for is to be entertained and not to be bought down day after day with misery and Danny Miller's miserable face, he seems to be able to do only one facial expression. I also agree about the fact Amy's dreadful behaviour hasn't been mentioned again, why does everyone bought in have to have massive chests, scriptwriters please note the bigger the chest doesn't make them better actresses and where did those tv's come from, did I nod off when the explanation was revealed, on the plus side I haven't had to see farmboy, oh and what did happen to the locum vet?

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by lotty27

BIB: For some reason that made me laugh out loud, my hubby and mum were engrossed in The Royal (rec it earlier) and I not 'arf made them jump Also made me look a bit like a loony-tune!!

Sorry Lotty

Originally Posted by lotty27

But you and Aida are spot on, every 'nice' village you go to has a arts and/or craft shop and they have mentioned in the past those mysterious 'coach trips' which land at the Woolie for lunch which means that ED is on the tourist trail, so therefore it seems reasonable that it would have touristy shops like that?

I also agree that it would be nice to have some real, proper 'toffs' at Home Farm for a change, mind you, the old families have probably ran out of money to be able to afford such things by now! Maybe they could have some slightly eccentric retired actor or musician and their family move in? They like buying up old properties don't they?

I don't think you can even buy a postcard in the village now,let alone post it!

I was also thinking if Layla's shop stocked anything from the Sharma's factory?

It would be strange if the village shop didn't

Originally Posted by lotty27

EDIT: And that lady certainly looks like a Grand Dame! I bet it really is you

Why thank you I can live with being the beloved Belgian Q.M.

[Angela Channing]

Originally Posted by tinkie

.....and not to be bought down day after day with misery and Danny Miller's miserable face, he seems to be able to do only one facial expression. ?

Oh he could cry me a river!

He also never changes his clothes,I'd love scrub the little grub with bicarbonate of soda & I'd burn those dreadful tracksuit bottoms .

He's probably cry over that too

[Jimmy Skitz]

I thought Declan was staying

[Gwen_PYC]

I always thought they should have done a triangle with Fay, Declan, and Ella. It would have been far more interesting than Ella sleeping with Adam.

[narobi83]

Is Sam still working at Home Farm? Infact is he even still in the programme as he seemed to hardly feature in the aftermath of Lisa's rape?

There's far too many characters being sidelined and not appearing when they should be, not all characters need to be playing a large part and by having others appear in smaller roles it helps to maintain some normality opposed to the ongoing OTT drama.

As someone said earlier about Yorkshire villages having fetes and community activities, Emmerdale used to focus a lot on these but I'm sure the last time the bunting was rolled out was for Katherine Jenkins visit... Pehaps Len ruined the joyous occassion meaning nobody could bare to hold them in the future. It was these episodes that would really allow the viewers to experience the small setting and drive home that real sense of community. It often led to the big reveal of one of the ongoing plots in front of the entire village meaning it became an ensemble piece as everyones reactions were accounted for. I long for those episodes once more where the biggest drama was who would triumph in the cake making contest and would Betty get caught sabotaging Pearls jam tarts. It might not have been sensationalist and hard hitting but it was something you could relate to.

[enterfunnyname]

New to thread, pretty intesting reading!

I want to see grandma Barton come to the village.

Also what happened to Joe Sugden, I know that he was written off screen but how and why?

[sheepiefarm]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Skitz

I thought Declan was staying

As far as we know he is staying.

Originally Posted by narobi83

Is Sam still working at Home Farm? Infact is he even still in the programme as he seemed to hardly feature in the aftermath of Lisa's rape?

He went away to look after some relative of Alice's (her mother I think) and then arrived home a couple of weeks ago - but hasn't been seen since.

There's far too many characters being sidelined and not appearing when they should be, not all characters need to be playing a large part and by having others appear in smaller roles it helps to maintain some normality opposed to the ongoing OTT drama.

Yeah - I think the fact that there has been no reaction from Pearl to Jackson's death is a bit remiss, since she was one of the few characters who actually shared screentime with him.



Welcome enterfunnyname.
I'm having a memory blip at the moment and can't remember how they killed Joe off