[bitebug]

Originally Posted by redlight79

Okay, every Zelda fan HAS to see this video!

Jimmy Fallon who is a massive Zelda fan, was lucky enough to have Reggie on his show to promote Skyward Sword. On top of that, Eiji & Koji gave him probably every Zelda fan's dream present. On top of that, he played some footage of the game, and it doesn't contain any spoilers.

Click here to see the video!

That statue is awesome.

As for the gameplay - it's true - if you waggle you die
That was funny

[Kal_El]

Originally Posted by redlight79

Okay, every Zelda fan HAS to see this video!

Jimmy Fallon who is a massive Zelda fan, was lucky enough to have Reggie on his show to promote Skyward Sword. On top of that, Eiji & Koji gave him probably every Zelda fan's dream present. On top of that, he played some footage of the game, and it doesn't contain any spoilers.

Click here to see the video!

Well the statue was certainly more impressive than the gameplaying that followed! Has the guy even played Zelda before?

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by The Terminator

I've no struggle. The sword reacts pretty accurately (not 1:1 despite the claims) when you idly wave it about, actually attacking with it is a much different story. The swings are more limited and frequently "wrong" (i.e he doesn't swing in the direction you did). My hardware works fine btw, that's a pretty cheap attempt to discredit my opinion. Guess I'll be missing this one after all. Oh Wii, you were a massive let down.

Total lies, if you hold down Z before attacking then it will simplify your attacks you a 8-way directional system, if you take your hand off the Z button when you swing then it will swing in precisely the same direction you do. It is also 1:1 timing, I've played a lot of this and I fail to see how you can say otherwise (remember 1:1 in the truest sense is never possible, we're not dealing with a mirror here).

What is up with your attitude I'll never know, not a cheap attempt to "discredit you" (doing a good job of that yourself), just trying to put you straight on a few things. However if you choose to not buy the game then I doubt you'll be missed on this board. Bye.

[bitebug]

Is it true that the motion plus needs to be re-calibrated a lot in Zelda Skyward Sword

I hated the interruptions in Wii Sports Resort because of the constant need to re-calibrate, although I was using the Wiimote Plus attachment at the time.
I am getting the Limited Edition bundle for Zelda with the Wiimote Plus Controller (not sure if it will make a difference), but one review mentions the need to re-calibrate as a negative.

[2Dshmuplover]

Yeah that's true, and is unfortunately something that kind of goes hand in hand with motion plus. Better that the option is there than not at all like some Motion+ games. It's alleviated by not swinging the sword around like a mental patient (as seen in the vid above).

When reviewers mention re-calibrating they mean pointing at the screen and pressing a button to instantly realign the crosshair to a center position (that can go a little wayward if you swung it around a lot), NOT having to set the wiimote down like in Wii Sports Resort. That only happens once on start up in Zelda and never during gameplay.

[The Terminator]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Total lies, if you hold down Z before attacking then it will simplify your attacks you a 8-way directional system, if you take your hand off the Z button when you swing then it will swing in precisely the same direction you do. It is also 1:1 timing, I've played a lot of this and I fail to see how you can say otherwise (remember 1:1 in the truest sense is never possible, we're not dealing with a mirror here).

Why on earth would I lie?
The 8-way thing you mentioned seems to fit with the effect I experienced, but there was no pressing of Z required, it was simply the default. The only accurate copying of sword movement was idle waving, as I said. A sharp swing resulted in it going into one of the 8-way presets (and not always the right one).

What is up with your attitude I'll never know, not a cheap attempt to "discredit you" (doing a good job of that yourself), just trying to put you straight on a few things. However if you choose to not buy the game then I doubt you'll be missed on this board. Bye.

My attitude is one of disappointment with the Wii, that's all. Motion controls are pointless if they are inferior to traditional controls and this was the one game that promised to buck that trend, and my experience is that it fails to deliver. It's weird that you'd accuse me of lying when I really wanted this to be everything it was claimed to be. If it had turned out to be then I would have gladly sung it's praises.

[2Dshmuplover]

OK it was wrong of me to call you a liar. The sword reacts precise to your swings if you are not holding down Z button. I can't say no more than that because it is the truth. Any angle that I have swung at it has responded in the exact same way. If I hold z button then it is 8-way diagonal/up/down/left/right.

You may be disappointed with motion controls and that's fair enough, not everyone has to (or should) like them. I think in this game though they offer a huge advantage. Like when the enemies hold their shield to the left, you strike to the right, if they hold it above you swing below. it's effortless and feels intuitive. At least to me. It's far superior than the alternative of fumbling two analogue sticks with your thumbs. I suggest you maybe spend more time with the controls before you pass judgement on them? All the reviews make a point of stating how good they are, though I understand they still won't be for everyone and maybe you're one of those people.

Are you suffering from lag? Does it not feel 1:1? Because this is one reason I play on a CRT TV: zero response time. If you are playing on a HDTV this might be one reason why you are unsatisfied with motion controls. Not all HDTV's have this problem but I know on mine they felt horrible even at 480p with a component cable, yet I don't notice any lag on 360/PS3 at 720p/1080p. Just trying to help you, not trying to discredit your opinion.

[bitebug]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Yeah that's true, and is unfortunately something that kind of goes hand in hand with motion plus. Better that the option is there than not at all like some Motion+ games. It's alleviated by not swinging the sword around like a mental patient (as seen in the vid above).

When reviewers mention re-calibrating they mean pointing at the screen and pressing a button to instantly realign the crosshair to a center position (that can go a little wayward if you swung it around a lot), NOT having to set the wiimote down like in Wii Sports Resort. That only happens once on start up in Zelda and never during gameplay.

That was irritating Glad to hear you don't have to that

[-GONZO-]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Are you suffering from lag? Does it not feel 1:1? Because this is one reason I play on a CRT TV: zero response time. If you are playing on a HDTV this might be one reason why you are unsatisfied with motion controls. Not all HDTV's have this problem but I know on mine they felt horrible even at 480p with a component cable, yet I don't notice any lag on 360/PS3 at 720p/1080p.

Does your TV not have a Game mode?
Mine suffered some lag until I turned Game mode on.

[bitebug]

Nitpicky review from 1UP http://www.1up.com/reviews/legend-of...ward-sword-wii

Don't let this put you off.

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by -GONZO-

Does your TV not have a Game mode?
Mine suffered some lag until I turned Game mode on.

It does have a game mode but for some reason it locks out a lot of the picture options and makes it looks quite nasty to my eyes (sharpness 50/100 on default). I prefer the SDTV RGB look anyway but you are right, Game mode would certainly make a big difference.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by redlight79

Okay, every Zelda fan HAS to see this video!

Jimmy Fallon who is a massive Zelda fan, was lucky enough to have Reggie on his show to promote Skyward Sword. On top of that, Eiji & Koji gave him probably every Zelda fan's dream present. On top of that, he played some footage of the game, and it doesn't contain any spoilers.

Click here to see the video!

Great Video, proves you can still throw the remote around and defeat enemies eventually without a battle plan.
Also how did the motion controls work as there was no sign of a wii unit at all.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Yeah that's true, and is unfortunately something that kind of goes hand in hand with motion plus. Better that the option is there than not at all like some Motion+ games. It's alleviated by not swinging the sword around like a mental patient (as seen in the vid above).

When reviewers mention re-calibrating they mean pointing at the screen and pressing a button to instantly realign the crosshair to a center position (that can go a little wayward if you swung it around a lot), NOT having to set the wiimote down like in Wii Sports Resort. That only happens once on start up in Zelda and never during gameplay.

What do you have to do to recalibrate just point at the screen and hit a combination of buttons, and how often does it happen in say an hour of gameplay. Does it normally happen when your fighting or is it random.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

OK it was wrong of me to call you a liar. The sword reacts precise to your swings if you are not holding down Z button. I can't say no more than that because it is the truth. Any angle that I have swung at it has responded in the exact same way. If I hold z button then it is 8-way diagonal/up/down/left/right.

You may be disappointed with motion controls and that's fair enough, not everyone has to (or should) like them. I think in this game though they offer a huge advantage. Like when the enemies hold their shield to the left, you strike to the right, if they hold it above you swing below. it's effortless and feels intuitive. At least to me. It's far superior than the alternative of fumbling two analogue sticks with your thumbs. I suggest you maybe spend more time with the controls before you pass judgement on them? All the reviews make a point of stating how good they are, though I understand they still won't be for everyone and maybe you're one of those people.

Are you suffering from lag? Does it not feel 1:1? Because this is one reason I play on a CRT TV: zero response time. If you are playing on a HDTV this might be one reason why you are unsatisfied with motion controls. Not all HDTV's have this problem but I know on mine they felt horrible even at 480p with a component cable, yet I don't notice any lag on 360/PS3 at 720p/1080p. Just trying to help you, not trying to discredit your opinion.

Hope there is no lag when playing on a HDTV, have this feeling once people start to play this game there are going to be a lot of complaints.
Its fine having a great game with all this motion plus stuff but if it dont work properly then the game is basically redundant.
Think the game should have beeen designed to still allow buttons to be used if required.

[Kal_El]

Never heard of lag on a HDTV. We have a fairly inexpensive Samsung 32" HDTV with a third party Wii component cable, and it's never been anything less than fantastic with the Wii. I don't have anything like a game mode set either.

Originally Posted by geordielady

Hope there is no lag when playing on a HDTV, have this feeling once people start to play this game there are going to be a lot of complaints.
Its fine having a great game with all this motion plus stuff but if it dont work properly then the game is basically redundant.
Think the game should have beeen designed to still allow buttons to be used if required.

It's comedy gold, you couldn't make it up. No folks it's a real person who really believes this drivel.

[MD1500]

Review round up from various sources via CVG - including some not mentioned here.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...d-up/?site=cvg

[-GONZO-]

Originally Posted by Kal_El

It's comedy gold, you couldn't make it up. No folks it's a real person who really believes this drivel.

You could take all the quotes and make a book. It would make a great present for someone at Xmas.
I must admit that sometimes I do wonder if all this is just some big wind up.

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by The Terminator

I've no struggle. The sword reacts pretty accurately (not 1:1 despite the claims) when you idly wave it about, actually attacking with it is a much different story. The swings are more limited and frequently "wrong" (i.e he doesn't swing in the direction you did). My hardware works fine btw, that's a pretty cheap attempt to discredit my opinion. Guess I'll be missing this one after all. Oh Wii, you were a massive let down.

There are many here trying to discredit peoples opinions.
Some people are just away with the Nintendo fairies thats the simple fact.

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by geordielady

Great Video, proves you can still throw the remote around and defeat enemies eventually without a battle plan.
Also how did the motion controls work as there was no sign of a wii unit at all.

Maybe some of the smaller enemies, and even then it would be near impossible with some as they require a set of moves to kill and not just random waggling.

Originally Posted by geordielady

What do you have to do to recalibrate just point at the screen and hit a combination of buttons, and how often does it happen in say an hour of gameplay. Does it normally happen when your fighting or is it random.

It all depends if you play like that man in the video, If you plan on playing like him then probably after every fight. All you do is aim at the center of the screen and press the down key on the D-pad. It's instantaneous.

Originally Posted by geordielady

Hope there is no lag when playing on a HDTV, have this feeling once people start to play this game there are going to be a lot of complaints.
Its fine having a great game with all this motion plus stuff but if it dont work properly then the game is basically redundant.
Think the game should have beeen designed to still allow buttons to be used if required.

There is no lag in this game. If you don't suffer any lag with your other Wii games then you won't with this. The Wii is known to cause a bit of lag on some larger panels/1080p sets due to the upsclaing from 480i/480p which takes little bit of time due to the internal processing. Game mode will bypass that however so there's always an option out in nearly all cases. So in essence there is no lag issue you're reading into my words wrong.

Originally Posted by geordielady

There are many here trying to discredit peoples opinions.
Some people are just away with the Nintendo fairies thats the simple fact.

I've not seen anybody in this thread trying to discredit someones opinions. But this sort of thing works both ways. This board may have it's share of resident Nintendo fans but it sure has a lot of Wii haters on it too, some of which like to take a stroll in the Wii section from time to time....

[jjesso123]

Can some explain to me what they describe 1 to 1 motion controls as ? Because to me playing the final version early cough cough (don't start with me pre order it anyway )

1. There is no lag like it needs to said anyway but some people or certain one

2. The controls are 1 to 1 you move the controller to the right the sword moves to the right you move to left your sword moves to the left, you slash down your sword slashes down you get the picture.

3. Its ******* awesome

[geordielady]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Maybe some of the smaller enemies, and even then it would be near impossible with some as they require a set of moves to kill and not just random waggling.



It all depends if you play like that man in the video, If you plan on playing like him then probably after every fight. All you do is aim at the center of the screen and press the down key on the D-pad. It's instantaneous.



There is no lag in this game. If you don't suffer any lag with your other Wii games then you won't with this. The Wii is known to cause a bit of lag on some larger panels/1080p sets due to the upsclaing from 480i/480p which takes little bit of time due to the internal processing. Game mode will bypass that however so there's always an option out in nearly all cases. So in essence there is no lag issue you're reading into my words wrong.



I've not seen anybody in this thread trying to discredit someones opinions. But this sort of thing works both ways. This board may have it's share of resident Nintendo fans but it sure has a lot of Wii haters on it too, some of which like to take a stroll in the Wii section from time to time....

But there is a difference between wii haters and people who are genuinely worried about the controls and how its gonna play in your own front room.

We have a 55 inch 1080p sony and I have never seen any lag whatsoever when using the wii, my son plays it most and he has never complained. We have a game mode on our TV but the game looks far better on our callibrated settings so the wii gets played on the same settings as when we watch the TV.
Not sure what the game setting does on the sonys, think it just sets the motion flow to high and frigs with the sharpness and all that. But anyone who owns a sony knows that its near on impossible to see any difference between any of the motion flow settings.

[Kal_El]

Originally Posted by geordielady

There are many here trying to discredit peoples opinions.
Some people are just away with the Nintendo fairies thats the simple fact.

See, it's no surprise to me that you think this. Because you have to think this to make your crap make sense to you.

[-GONZO-]

Originally Posted by geordielady

We have a 55 inch 1080p sony and I have never seen any lag whatsoever when using the wii, my son plays it most and he has never complained. We have a game mode on our TV but the game looks far better on our callibrated settings so the wii gets played on the same settings as when we watch the TV.
Not sure what the game setting does on the sonys, think it just sets the motion flow to high and frigs with the sharpness and all that. But anyone who owns a sony knows that its near on impossible to see any difference between any of the motion flow settings.

As 2D has said, there is no lag in the actual game itself..
Some TVs produce lag because of the small amount of time it takes to process the information and show it on screen.
For some it may only be a couple of milliseconds of lag which for some games you may not notice at all, but for the odd game that requires you to push a button at an exact moment you may notice that the timing is a little off.(much like lip sync issues with Blu Ray)
Guitar Hero is a good example of one of these games as timing is everything and within the games options the games maker added a lag setting for those TVs that doesn't have a Game Mode to adjust what happens on screen to your button presses.
Game mode on a TV shortens the processing time, but has to do away with some picture options in the process for that to happen so a bit of fiddling about is needed to get a picture your happy with.
Chances are if you've not noticed any lag with any other games then you won't with Skyward Sword either.

[Kal_El]

It doesn't matter what you say. She's determined to prove the game is defective one way or another.

[Bagsy938]

Originally Posted by bitebug

That statue is awesome.

As for the gameplay - it's true - if you waggle you die
That was funny

You can buy it for a cool £324

http://forbiddenplanet.com/79455-leg...ium=comparison