US Technology Working In The UK??

TVGirl319 · 09-06-2011, 18:29

A freind of mine in the USA is emigrating over to the USA, and he wants to ship his HD Ready flat screen TV and desktop computer over!!

Will these items work over in the UK??

Thanks!!!

gomezz · 09-06-2011, 18:33

In his shoes I would bring the hard disk from the computer and sell the rest and buy new in the UK.

TVGirl319 · 09-06-2011, 18:40

Oooops, I meant he is emigrating from the USA to the UK!!!LOLOLOLOLOL

niall campbell · 09-06-2011, 18:51

what make and model number is it ?

TVGirl319 · 09-06-2011, 19:20

Insignia RC-26100

fmradiotuner1 · 09-06-2011, 19:22

Some of the stuff may need a power converter because they use 120V and its 240V.
Also the TV might not work plugged into an aerial but might be OK if running from HDMI.

Google brings up no info at all about the TV for me.
If its only 26 inch it might be best to sell it and buy one here as they are quite cheap now for that size.

Nigel Goodwin · 09-06-2011, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVGirl319

A freind of mine in the USA is emigrating over to the USA, and he wants to ship his HD Ready flat screen TV and desktop computer over!!

Will these items work over in the UK??

Thanks!!!

American TV's are usually severely crippled, and don't tend to work outside the USA. You could probably use a transformer to feed it the 120V it will require (50Hz mains shouldn't be a problem), but it won't work as a TV here, only as a monitor - and it might have restrictions at that as well (quite possibly it won't display 50Hz pictures).

But it only sounds a cheap make, best to sell it there, and put the money towards buying aTV once he gets here.

The computer should be OK, as long as it's switchable (or auto-switching) for 230V (and many are).

fmradiotuner1 · 09-06-2011, 19:31

Also the PC might be OK if the PSU can only take 120V they are quite easy to replace so he might need a new PSU.

grahamlthompson · 09-06-2011, 19:47

Never seen a PC that does not have a switch mode power supply that will accept ac power pretty well anywhere in the world. There's no setting to change, because of the way the power supply works. It starts by converting the local power to a fixed dc voltage so is entirely independent of supply voltage and frequency. The TV is an entirely different kettle of fish unless it's going to be used solely for a HD seperate source using hdmi.

Orbitalzone · 09-06-2011, 21:56

I've seen (and owned) some PC's that have a powersupply with a manually operated switch to select 120v or 240v so some are certainly not automatic..... I've also had some that only state 240v working but I can't honestly say they won't work on 120v. - However I suspect you're right in that most, if not all modern PC's will have switched mode powersupplies that work from 100v to 240v or thereabouts.

I'd certainly agree that it's a waste of time bringing the TV over here as it'll (at best) just work as a monitor requiring you to plug in things and it won't have scart sockets either.

The PC should be relativey easy to adapt if required, or it might just work.

garbageguy · 09-06-2011, 21:57

We use different tv frequencies ( and digital is his digital? ) and we use PAL they use NTSC, sell it and buy a new one, to complicated to bother with i think.
OR he could use it with a power converter and a freeview box via hdmi as suggested.

pocatello · 10-06-2011, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

American TV's are usually severely crippled, and don't tend to work outside the USA. You could probably use a transformer to feed it the 120V it will require (50Hz mains shouldn't be a problem), but it won't work as a TV here, only as a monitor - and it might have restrictions at that as well (quite possibly it won't display 50Hz pictures).

But it only sounds a cheap make, best to sell it there, and put the money towards buying aTV once he gets here.

The computer should be OK, as long as it's switchable (or auto-switching) for 230V (and many are).

They aren't crippled, if anything uk tv is crippled, HD digital tuners are standard on american tv's and have been for quite a while longer than UK! Only issue is that the tuners are obviously not compatible across countries.

Nigel Goodwin · 10-06-2011, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocatello

They aren't crippled, if anything uk tv is crippled, HD digital tuners are standard on american tv's and have been for quite a while longer than UK! Only issue is that the tuners are obviously not compatible across countries.

CRIPPLED!!

No NICAM, no Teletext, won't accept PAL, probably won't accept 50Hz, possibly won't work on the UK DTT system, and certainly not on the UK DTT HD system..

America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere. I can understand NICAM and Teletext (as America didn't use them), but there's no excuse for PAL and 50Hz, which is standard for the IC's used.

pocatello · 10-06-2011, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

CRIPPLED!!

No NICAM, no Teletext, won't accept PAL, probably won't accept 50Hz, possibly won't work on the UK DTT system, and certainly not on the UK DTT HD system..

America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere. I can understand NICAM and Teletext (as America didn't use them), but there's no excuse for PAL and 50Hz, which is standard for the IC's used.

I'm sorry at this point you are arguing for the sake of it.

American tv's were made for american standards, how hard is that to understand.

gomezz · 10-06-2011, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere.

I would have thought it was more that they went their own way with standards to try and stop their home manufacturers being threatened by imported equipment.

bobcar · 10-06-2011, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

I would have thought it was more that they went their own way with standards to try and stop their home manufacturers being threatened by imported equipment.

They are crippled otherwise imported sets (into USA) would have the same features as those sets do in the rest of the world. It's more expensive to make a TV that doesn't support 50Hz etc when all the other sets the manufacturer makes does support them though that is mitigated by the size of the US market.

When TV sets were much cheaper in the US than elsewhere there was a big incentive for the manufacturers not to allow sets to be bought in the US then shipped abroad, I'm not sure how much that still applies. It's the main reason for region coding on DVDs.

2Bdecided · 10-06-2011, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

Never seen a PC that does not have a switch mode power supply that will accept ac power pretty well anywhere in the world. There's no setting to change, because of the way the power supply works.

Most desktops have a physical switch between 110V / 230V. You will blow it up if you don't change it.
In many countries, there's a sticker with the country's voltage printed on it covering this switch, to prevent user error.

2Bdecided · 10-06-2011, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocatello

I'm sorry at this point you are arguing for the sake of it.

American tv's were made for american standards, how hard is that to understand.

...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs.

Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled.

Nigel is 100% correct.

Cheers,
David.

Nigel Goodwin · 10-06-2011, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Bdecided

...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs.

Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled.

Nigel is 100% correct.

I know

I've had much experience with American imports over many years - the most recent been flat screen ones that were deliberately imported from America for fitting in high-end boats.

I couldn't see why the boat builder specified American TV's?, European ones would have worked on American signals, and all round the world - the crippled American ones only worked in America, or from the American DVD player also installed. The boats were built here in Britain by the way, not in the USA.

kev · 10-06-2011, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Bdecided

Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country

Really? My Philips set has a hyperband tuner with NTSC as one of the video options on the analogue tuner. The digital tuner is naturally DVB-T only...

Orbitalzone · 10-06-2011, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kev

Really? My Philips set has a hyperband tuner with NTSC as one of the video options on the analogue tuner. The digital tuner is naturally DVB-T only...

Well he probably should have said 'most'

pocatello · 11-06-2011, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Bdecided

...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs.

Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled.

Nigel is 100% correct.

Cheers,
David.

No not really, because almost no one in the US will bother importing any 50hz material. Any additional features for uk tv were originally added because of small country status meaning more people probably import media. Ask the average consumer if they need 50hz support they will stare at you as if you were talking nonsense. Even if you talk to videophiles they won't care, the us is a big market, it is unlikely to be left out. It is like pointing out to the average californian that their car is missing an ash tray and thus it is crippled, they will look at you like you are smoking crack.

You folks have done nothing to prove that the hardware is identical and only crippled. The fact is the US is a huge market compared to small european countries, and the models put out in the us are sometimes us specific. US tv's are certainly a whole lot cheaper.

You have to remember the only reason european and such countries need more support is because they are so quick to ban things, whether it be video nasties or hardcore porn

Freedom of speech in the US always meant there were no such issues. Even today uk/australia/germany are still banning things like video games.

If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far. Even today you are banning film, the human centipede 2 film recently got banned. If you want to talk crippled, you live in a crippled censorship society

njp · 11-06-2011, 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocatello

If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far.

You've even managed to get that wrong. It was Kubrick himself who removed the film from distribution in the UK. It was only ever banned from cinemas by a few regional councils.

pocatello · 11-06-2011, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by njp

You've even managed to get that wrong. It was Kubrick himself who removed the film from distribution in the UK. It was only ever banned from cinemas by a few regional councils.

Lol I was just waiting for one of you to go there, it is well known, but it is also well known how fast one of you will jump out to correct this as if you are correcting anything at all. I didn't say it was banned. But you thought it because of your bias. I've seen it on the exact same subject in past threads where someone always has to point this out as if it were some great unknown truth. Being a fan of kubrick I know this stuff in great detail and have seen it over and over. I thought about editing my post with more specificity because I just knew one of you would go there, but I had other things to do. Anyways...like clockwork indeed...

In any case you've missed the point, in your attempt at a gotchya you missed the simple fact of the matter that it was effectively banned, and thus importation was necessary for fans for most of the life of that film.

The fact of the matter is there is a censorship society in europe that doesn't exist in america, as such importation is necessary.

Even today you have folks going after twitter, most americans look at such cases and wonder why brits are acting like some authoritarian regime going after dissidents trying to force companies to reveal users identities for something they said.

njp · 11-06-2011, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocatello

Lol I was just waiting for one of you to go there, it is well known, but it is also well known how fast one of you will jump out to correct this as if you are correcting anything at all. I didn't say it was banned. You thought it.

Yes, you very cleverly inserted the Clockwork Orange reference in the middle of a couple of paragraphs ranting on about Europeans and "such" countries (is that any country that isn't the US?) banning things. How silly of me to imagine you thought they'd banned the film!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocatello

You have to remember the only reason european and such countries need more support is because they are so quick to ban things, whether it be video nasties or hardcore porn

Freedom of speech in the US always meant there were no such issues. Even today uk/australia/germany are still banning things like video games.

If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far. Even today you are banning film, the human centipede 2 film recently got banned. If you want to talk crippled, you live in a crippled censorship society

Still, it's good that all these repressive regimes go out of their way to provide technology to circumvent their predilection for banning things.

09-06-2011, 18:29	#1
TVGirl319 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET, UK Posts: 2,065	US Technology Working In The UK?? A freind of mine in the USA is emigrating over to the USA, and he wants to ship his HD Ready flat screen TV and desktop computer over!! Will these items work over in the UK?? Thanks!!!

09-06-2011, 18:33	#2
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	In his shoes I would bring the hard disk from the computer and sell the rest and buy new in the UK.

09-06-2011, 18:40	#3
TVGirl319 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET, UK Posts: 2,065	Oooops, I meant he is emigrating from the USA to the UK!!!LOLOLOLOLOL

09-06-2011, 18:51	#4
niall campbell Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aberfeldy Posts: 7,035	what make and model number is it ?

09-06-2011, 19:20	#5
TVGirl319 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET, UK Posts: 2,065	Insignia RC-26100

09-06-2011, 19:22	#6
fmradiotuner1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TheEssexSunshineCoast Clacton Posts: 15,220	Some of the stuff may need a power converter because they use 120V and its 240V. Also the TV might not work plugged into an aerial but might be OK if running from HDMI. Google brings up no info at all about the TV for me. If its only 26 inch it might be best to sell it and buy one here as they are quite cheap now for that size.

09-06-2011, 19:28	#7
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by TVGirl319 A freind of mine in the USA is emigrating over to the USA, and he wants to ship his HD Ready flat screen TV and desktop computer over!! Will these items work over in the UK?? Thanks!!! American TV's are usually severely crippled, and don't tend to work outside the USA. You could probably use a transformer to feed it the 120V it will require (50Hz mains shouldn't be a problem), but it won't work as a TV here, only as a monitor - and it might have restrictions at that as well (quite possibly it won't display 50Hz pictures). But it only sounds a cheap make, best to sell it there, and put the money towards buying aTV once he gets here. The computer should be OK, as long as it's switchable (or auto-switching) for 230V (and many are).

09-06-2011, 19:31	#8
fmradiotuner1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TheEssexSunshineCoast Clacton Posts: 15,220	Also the PC might be OK if the PSU can only take 120V they are quite easy to replace so he might need a new PSU.

09-06-2011, 19:47	#9
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Never seen a PC that does not have a switch mode power supply that will accept ac power pretty well anywhere in the world. There's no setting to change, because of the way the power supply works. It starts by converting the local power to a fixed dc voltage so is entirely independent of supply voltage and frequency. The TV is an entirely different kettle of fish unless it's going to be used solely for a HD seperate source using hdmi.

09-06-2011, 21:56	#10
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	I've seen (and owned) some PC's that have a powersupply with a manually operated switch to select 120v or 240v so some are certainly not automatic..... I've also had some that only state 240v working but I can't honestly say they won't work on 120v. - However I suspect you're right in that most, if not all modern PC's will have switched mode powersupplies that work from 100v to 240v or thereabouts. I'd certainly agree that it's a waste of time bringing the TV over here as it'll (at best) just work as a monitor requiring you to plug in things and it won't have scart sockets either. The PC should be relativey easy to adapt if required, or it might just work.

09-06-2011, 21:57	#11
garbageguy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Thornton NW UK Posts: 239	We use different tv frequencies ( and digital is his digital? ) and we use PAL they use NTSC, sell it and buy a new one, to complicated to bother with i think. OR he could use it with a power converter and a freeview box via hdmi as suggested.

10-06-2011, 03:06	#12
pocatello Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,622	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin American TV's are usually severely crippled, and don't tend to work outside the USA. You could probably use a transformer to feed it the 120V it will require (50Hz mains shouldn't be a problem), but it won't work as a TV here, only as a monitor - and it might have restrictions at that as well (quite possibly it won't display 50Hz pictures). But it only sounds a cheap make, best to sell it there, and put the money towards buying aTV once he gets here. The computer should be OK, as long as it's switchable (or auto-switching) for 230V (and many are). They aren't crippled, if anything uk tv is crippled, HD digital tuners are standard on american tv's and have been for quite a while longer than UK! Only issue is that the tuners are obviously not compatible across countries.

10-06-2011, 08:46	#13
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by pocatello They aren't crippled, if anything uk tv is crippled, HD digital tuners are standard on american tv's and have been for quite a while longer than UK! Only issue is that the tuners are obviously not compatible across countries. CRIPPLED!! No NICAM, no Teletext, won't accept PAL, probably won't accept 50Hz, possibly won't work on the UK DTT system, and certainly not on the UK DTT HD system.. America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere. I can understand NICAM and Teletext (as America didn't use them), but there's no excuse for PAL and 50Hz, which is standard for the IC's used.

10-06-2011, 09:45	#14
pocatello Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,622	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin CRIPPLED!! No NICAM, no Teletext, won't accept PAL, probably won't accept 50Hz, possibly won't work on the UK DTT system, and certainly not on the UK DTT HD system.. America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere. I can understand NICAM and Teletext (as America didn't use them), but there's no excuse for PAL and 50Hz, which is standard for the IC's used. I'm sorry at this point you are arguing for the sake of it. American tv's were made for american standards, how hard is that to understand.

10-06-2011, 12:04	#15
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin America have always crippled their sets to prevent them been of any use elsewhere. I would have thought it was more that they went their own way with standards to try and stop their home manufacturers being threatened by imported equipment.

10-06-2011, 13:44	#16
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz I would have thought it was more that they went their own way with standards to try and stop their home manufacturers being threatened by imported equipment. They are crippled otherwise imported sets (into USA) would have the same features as those sets do in the rest of the world. It's more expensive to make a TV that doesn't support 50Hz etc when all the other sets the manufacturer makes does support them though that is mitigated by the size of the US market. When TV sets were much cheaper in the US than elsewhere there was a big incentive for the manufacturers not to allow sets to be bought in the US then shipped abroad, I'm not sure how much that still applies. It's the main reason for region coding on DVDs.

10-06-2011, 15:30	#17
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	Quote: Originally Posted by grahamlthompson Never seen a PC that does not have a switch mode power supply that will accept ac power pretty well anywhere in the world. There's no setting to change, because of the way the power supply works. Most desktops have a physical switch between 110V / 230V. You will blow it up if you don't change it. In many countries, there's a sticker with the country's voltage printed on it covering this switch, to prevent user error.

10-06-2011, 15:33	#18
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	Quote: Originally Posted by pocatello I'm sorry at this point you are arguing for the sake of it. American tv's were made for american standards, how hard is that to understand. ...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs. Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled. Nigel is 100% correct. Cheers, David.

10-06-2011, 15:55	#19
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by 2Bdecided ...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs. Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled. Nigel is 100% correct. I know I've had much experience with American imports over many years - the most recent been flat screen ones that were deliberately imported from America for fitting in high-end boats. I couldn't see why the boat builder specified American TV's?, European ones would have worked on American signals, and all round the world - the crippled American ones only worked in America, or from the American DVD player also installed. The boats were built here in Britain by the way, not in the USA.

10-06-2011, 16:22	#20
kev Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: South Notts (Waltham TV TX) Posts: 20,200	Quote: Originally Posted by 2Bdecided Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country Really? My Philips set has a hyperband tuner with NTSC as one of the video options on the analogue tuner. The digital tuner is naturally DVB-T only...

10-06-2011, 21:40	#21
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	Quote: Originally Posted by kev Really? My Philips set has a hyperband tuner with NTSC as one of the video options on the analogue tuner. The digital tuner is naturally DVB-T only... Well he probably should have said 'most'

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11-06-2011, 02:20	#22
pocatello Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,622	Quote: Originally Posted by 2Bdecided ...but all "HD-Ready" European TVs will display 50Hz and 60Hz inputs via HDMI, as will most older TVs via RGB SCART. In contrast, very few American TVs will display 50Hz inputs. Neither country's TVs include a tuner for the "other" country, but in terms of displaying video from other inputs, many American TVs are crippled. Nigel is 100% correct. Cheers, David. No not really, because almost no one in the US will bother importing any 50hz material. Any additional features for uk tv were originally added because of small country status meaning more people probably import media. Ask the average consumer if they need 50hz support they will stare at you as if you were talking nonsense. Even if you talk to videophiles they won't care, the us is a big market, it is unlikely to be left out. It is like pointing out to the average californian that their car is missing an ash tray and thus it is crippled, they will look at you like you are smoking crack. You folks have done nothing to prove that the hardware is identical and only crippled. The fact is the US is a huge market compared to small european countries, and the models put out in the us are sometimes us specific. US tv's are certainly a whole lot cheaper. You have to remember the only reason european and such countries need more support is because they are so quick to ban things, whether it be video nasties or hardcore porn Freedom of speech in the US always meant there were no such issues. Even today uk/australia/germany are still banning things like video games. If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far. Even today you are banning film, the human centipede 2 film recently got banned. If you want to talk crippled, you live in a crippled censorship society

11-06-2011, 06:42	#23
njp Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,646	Quote: Originally Posted by pocatello If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far. You've even managed to get that wrong. It was Kubrick himself who removed the film from distribution in the UK. It was only ever banned from cinemas by a few regional councils.

11-06-2011, 08:22	#24
pocatello Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,622	Quote: Originally Posted by njp You've even managed to get that wrong. It was Kubrick himself who removed the film from distribution in the UK. It was only ever banned from cinemas by a few regional councils. Lol I was just waiting for one of you to go there, it is well known, but it is also well known how fast one of you will jump out to correct this as if you are correcting anything at all. I didn't say it was banned. But you thought it because of your bias. I've seen it on the exact same subject in past threads where someone always has to point this out as if it were some great unknown truth. Being a fan of kubrick I know this stuff in great detail and have seen it over and over. I thought about editing my post with more specificity because I just knew one of you would go there, but I had other things to do. Anyways...like clockwork indeed... In any case you've missed the point, in your attempt at a gotchya you missed the simple fact of the matter that it was effectively banned, and thus importation was necessary for fans for most of the life of that film. The fact of the matter is there is a censorship society in europe that doesn't exist in america, as such importation is necessary. Even today you have folks going after twitter, most americans look at such cases and wonder why brits are acting like some authoritarian regime going after dissidents trying to force companies to reveal users identities for something they said.

11-06-2011, 08:37	#25
njp Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,646	Quote: Originally Posted by pocatello Lol I was just waiting for one of you to go there, it is well known, but it is also well known how fast one of you will jump out to correct this as if you are correcting anything at all. I didn't say it was banned. You thought it. Yes, you very cleverly inserted the Clockwork Orange reference in the middle of a couple of paragraphs ranting on about Europeans and "such" countries (is that any country that isn't the US?) banning things. How silly of me to imagine you thought they'd banned the film! Quote: Originally Posted by pocatello You have to remember the only reason european and such countries need more support is because they are so quick to ban things, whether it be video nasties or hardcore porn Freedom of speech in the US always meant there were no such issues. Even today uk/australia/germany are still banning things like video games. If a brit wanted to watch the clockwork orange they would have needed 60hz support. Americans would have just been dumbfounded you had to go that far. Even today you are banning film, the human centipede 2 film recently got banned. If you want to talk crippled, you live in a crippled censorship society Still, it's good that all these repressive regimes go out of their way to provide technology to circumvent their predilection for banning things.