Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Yeah, Survivor wasn't helped by the scheduling, initially it was actual episodes Monday and Thursday at 9pm and the eviction interviews on Tuesday and Friday at 8.30pm, but nobody cared about the eviction interviews, especially in the early shows where we barely knew the contestants. Indeed the first one saw half an hour of telly lavished on someone who'd appeared on screen for less than an hour.* Eventually they cut it down to just the main show on Monday and the eviction interview on Tuesday, now at 10.30, and rebranded as Survivor Unseen - which is rubbish, it's all bloody unseen until they show it!
As you say, the second series was all on one night, and the eviction interviews were done at the same time as their eviction (in the first series they were studio based and recorded months later). Ridiculously, the ITV2 spin-off was also on the same night, both 10.45 -11.05 during the news, then 11.35-1.05 after it, so you had nearly three and a half hours of it all in one lump. Who was going to watch that?
But it flopped mostly because it was very dull, really, I don't think anyone bought into a show filmed months ago miles away, especially one which they had no say over. It's like people didn't like the idea of Fame Academy as they had little say over what happened. It's remarkable to think how successful the original Popstars was when there were no opportunities to join in at all, that would be unthinkable now.”
It's ITV's desire for the public vote which ruined Hell's Kitchen too - it's a much better format when the eliminations and winner are actually based on the cooking, not the popularity.
Ironically in the wake of The Apprentice Survivor might actually fair better now than it did then as viewers are used recorded formats, and 71 Degrees North didn't do too bad. It is one thing which worries me about The Voice - NBC had four studio shows with no public vote. I can't see even the BBC being brave enough to do that.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“So last night's without substitutional opposition was quite poor?
Wonder why C4 don't do repeats during the week to build up the audience? Perhaps they can't afford multiple showings?”
It does make you wonder how these deals are done - they all seem to get the On Demand rights, but overlook the need for narrative repeats, and both Camelot and Pillars of the Earth really would benefit from them, whether on C4 or More4. I'd imagine they have some sort of repeat rights after the series too - a rerun of Pillars of the Earth would really boost More4's ever weakening schedule.