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Susan Ma - dumb whiny brat
inexperienced, childish, immature and sulky - throws a strop when she doesn't get her way
as for her 'business' ... I've seen her website. she's this year's Stu Baggs: a bullshitter and a chancer. Can you really see Lord Sugar going into a business partnership with a spoilt, whiny kid? she also has a really weird bent nose
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inexperienced, childish, immature and sulky - throws a strop when she doesn't get her way
as for her 'business' ... I've seen her website. she's this year's Stu Baggs: a bullshitter and a chancer. Can you really see Lord Sugar going into a business partnership with a spoilt, whiny kid? she also has a really weird bent nose ![]() Lord Sugar wants to go into business with someone who will make him money not look good. I do agree with many of your points about Susan but if, and it is a big if, Lord Sugar thinks he can knock the immaturity and the whiny side off her I think she stands a great chance and could easily win. Her business may or may not be great but to her credit she started it, it would appear to be doing relatively well. At her age she has achieved something in life, inexperienced or not. That is to her credit. However the show does give the other side to her character to and it is a learning process hopefully. |
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What's her nose got to do with it?
She might be immature, but then she is young. I don't think she's going to win, but she's not the worst candidate by a long way, and if you're going to talk about whining, then Zoe takes the biscuit for that.
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Was that an attempt to fit in as many insults into one post as possible.
![]() I think Susan has more potential than any other candidate, and her eagerness and enthusiasm puts them all to shame. |
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I'm not a fan, but Susan's not quite as bad as you describe either, OP! And I think she's pretty (there's certainly nothing wrong with the girl's nose, it's cute!).
I think the reason I've been more critical of Susan than the others is because her faults seem to be completely overlooked by the panel. Nick, in particular, bigs her up and protects her all the time. I don't want to see any of the candidates getting special treatment (because of their age or otherwise). |
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Ofcourse she'll complain when she doesn't get her own way because it just so happens that her way is the right way
I don't think Zoe can handle that Susan can speak back to her oh and what's exactly wrong with her nose?
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Ofcourse she'll complain when she doesn't get her own way because it just so happens that her way is the right way
I don't think Zoe can handle that Susan can speak back to her oh and what's exactly wrong with her nose? ![]() |
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It wasn't right to offer something like £150 for some old desks. The other team paid nothing and still only managed to win by £6.
So, even had they paid £150 for the furniture, it still would almost certainly have paid more per hour than any other job done by either team. So it wouldn't actually have been wrong to offer that. |
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inexperienced, childish, immature and sulky - throws a strop when she doesn't get her way
as for her 'business' ... I've seen her website. she's this year's Stu Baggs: a bullshitter and a chancer. Can you really see Lord Sugar going into a business partnership with a spoilt, whiny kid? she also has a really weird bent nose ![]() She may be inexperienced and her immaturity can come out, but she project managed a team really well, as also stated by Nick. And Nicks opinion means something because he's not influenced by any sort of editing. |
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as for her 'business' ... I've seen her website. she's this year's Stu Baggs: a bullshitter and a chancer.
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haha hate her. get. her. out
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It wasn't right to offer something like £150 for some old desks. The other team paid nothing and still only managed to win by £6.
Presuming all other jobs stayed the same. |
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Ugh I hate Susan, she whines constantly and then puts on the sad puppy act when she messes up. Whenever LS (and Nick, who seems to be in love with her
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I like Susan - she seems genuine, intelligent and sweet...
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She complains because she's surrounded by arrogant bulldozing women who think anyone who thinks differently from them is automatically an idiot. The way Zoe and Helen surrounded her to let her know she would be the scapegoat during the task was really pathetic. As was the way Zoe spoke to her in the last task, she wouldn't have spoken like that to anyone else.
And I think I speak for everyone here when I say your nose comment is dumb. Susan is the second prettiest girl in this series after Melody, and like another poster said I would consider it a safe bet that she's much better looking than you. |
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Ofcourse she'll complain when she doesn't get her own way because it just so happens that her way is the right way
regarding the office furniture deal, she was WRONG. They weren't there to buy junk off the guy, they were there to charge him a fee for removing it. Why on EARTH would they consider giving precious money to the guy when he was willing to pay them!! ![]() The fact that the other team cannily decided to do it for free and therefore won the contract is beside the point. Susan displayed her total cluelessness there - it was laughable frankly. |
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regarding the office furniture deal, she was WRONG. They weren't there to buy junk off the guy, they were there to charge him a fee for removing it.
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Why on EARTH would they consider giving precious money to the guy when he was willing to pay them!! Because it would earn them a tidy profit.
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The fact that the other team cannily decided to do it for free and therefore won the contract is beside the point.
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Susan displayed her total cluelessness there - it was laughable frankly.
Not at all. As I've said in another thread, my company occasionally clears warehouses, either for free or we pay a small fee. We always make a tidy profit. The last warehouse we cleared we did for free and made a profit in excess of £60,000.If you think getting £60,000 profit for an outlay of 2 staff members for 2 days is "laughable", then I hope you're not a businessperson yourself. |
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It's interesting that the people who seem to dislike Susan the most are also people who still don't get the logic of paying for the office furniture in the junk task (which was actually the correct tactic for that task).
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It's interesting that the people who seem to dislike Susan the most are also people who still don't get the logic of paying for the office furniture in the junk task (which was actually the correct tactic for that task).
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Play a different tune. Its not that people didnt get the concept. Its that people didnt see Susan get the concept. Why would she say hours later in the car in a bewildered voice ...... 'Oh so I was right after all...' if she got it. If she fully understood the concept she would have known she was right all along.
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Play a different tune. Its not that people didnt get the concept. Its that people didnt see Susan get the concept. Why would she say hours later in the car in a bewildered voice ...... 'Oh so I was right after all...' if she got it. If she fully understood the concept she would have known she was right all along.
Her fault wasn't in not understanding, it was in listening to Zoe. |
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As was the way Zoe spoke to her in the last task, she wouldn't have spoken like that to anyone else.
Whether anyone else would have warranted it is another matter. |
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It took the men (of course) to come back and save the day for the team.
As you say she is inexperienced, childish, immature, whiney and sulky. These are definitely her bad points, but I doubt she is going to come away from this TV process as quite the same person as she did when she went into it. And I suppose the positive is that while she has displayed these negative traits quite a bit, it's not like she hasn't displayed some good qualities as well in bits on the flip side also. If she can weed out these immaturity qualities and expand on the business skills which she already has (and she does have some, even if it pains some of us to say so) then she'll prob turn out to be a better business person than we'd all even predict. I doubt those changes will have come in time for her to win this show though but with the effects of this experience probably happening post-filming. |
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She is very whiny, but pretty harmless.
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Didn't there used to be more posts on this thread?
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) is addressing her in the boardroom I end up shouting at my telly! They all act like they're speaking to a toddler!