inexperienced, childish, immature and sulky - throws a strop when she doesn't get her way

as for her 'business' ... I've seen her website. she's this year's Stu Baggs: a bullshitter and a chancer.

Can you really see Lord Sugar going into a business partnership with a spoilt, whiny kid? I'm amazed she made it through the vetting.

she also has a really weird bent nose

i wouldn't hold her hook nose against her.

Lord Sugar wants to go into business with someone who will make him money not look good.

I do agree with many of your points about Susan but if, and it is a big if, Lord Sugar thinks he can knock the immaturity and the whiny side off her I think she stands a great chance and could easily win.

Her business may or may not be great but to her credit she started it, it would appear to be doing relatively well. At her age she has achieved something in life, inexperienced or not. That is to her credit. However the show does give the other side to her character to and it is a learning process hopefully.

What's her nose got to do with it?

She might be immature, but then she is young. I don't think she's going to win, but she's not the worst candidate by a long way, and if you're going to talk about whining, then Zoe takes the biscuit for that.

Was that an attempt to fit in as many insults into one post as possible.

I think Susan has more potential than any other candidate, and her eagerness and enthusiasm puts them all to shame.

I'm not a fan, but Susan's not quite as bad as you describe either, OP! And I think she's pretty (there's certainly nothing wrong with the girl's nose, it's cute!).

I think the reason I've been more critical of Susan than the others is because her faults seem to be completely overlooked by the panel. Nick, in particular, bigs her up and protects her all the time. I don't want to see any of the candidates getting special treatment (because of their age or otherwise).

Ofcourse she'll complain when she doesn't get her own way because it just so happens that her way is the right way Zoe is the know it all PM who had no idea what was happening and even cried and needed the team to encourage her.

I don't think Zoe can handle that Susan can speak back to her oh and what's exactly wrong with her nose?

It wasn't right to offer something like £150 for some old desks. The other team paid nothing and still only managed to win by £6.

Even if they had paid £150 for the desks, then it would still have been either the first or second most profitable deal by either team over the course of both days, evaluating it by comparing the amount of time it took and the income it generated. I say first or second because the copper tanks the other team sourced on two separate jobs netted them £915, with 5 tanks on 1 job and 2 on another, and we don't know how long each of the jobs took. It's possible that one of those paid higher per hour, although the fact that they took all day to do both jobs suggests not.

So, even had they paid £150 for the furniture, it still would almost certainly have paid more per hour than any other job done by either team. So it wouldn't actually have been wrong to offer that.

She may have a bent nose but I bet she's still better looking than you.

She may be inexperienced and her immaturity can come out, but she project managed a team really well, as also stated by Nick.

And Nicks opinion means something because he's not influenced by any sort of editing.

That's unfair. Partly because she hasn't bigged herself up like Stuart did. Her main faults seem to be, not taking criticism well, and too much optimism. The second one is rather a nice fault to have, really. She has a lot of energy and enthusiasm, and has been encouraging (eg to Leon when he didn't want to do the pitch). She can be annoying, but frankly they all can.

haha hate her. get. her. out

If they'd have paid £150, they would have made a profit of about £150, plus the other team would have lost the £300 they made from the desks... so it could have led to a £450 difference.

Presuming all other jobs stayed the same.

Ugh I hate Susan, she whines constantly and then puts on the sad puppy act when she messes up. Whenever LS (and Nick, who seems to be in love with her ) is addressing her in the boardroom I end up shouting at my telly! They all act like they're speaking to a toddler!

I like Susan - she seems genuine, intelligent and sweet...

She complains because she's surrounded by arrogant bulldozing women who think anyone who thinks differently from them is automatically an idiot. The way Zoe and Helen surrounded her to let her know she would be the scapegoat during the task was really pathetic. As was the way Zoe spoke to her in the last task, she wouldn't have spoken like that to anyone else.

And I think I speak for everyone here when I say your nose comment is dumb. Susan is the second prettiest girl in this series after Melody, and like another poster said I would consider it a safe bet that she's much better looking than you.

regarding the office furniture deal, she was WRONG. They weren't there to buy junk off the guy, they were there to charge him a fee for removing it. Why on EARTH would they consider giving precious money to the guy when he was willing to pay them!!

The fact that the other team cannily decided to do it for free and therefore won the contract is beside the point. Susan displayed her total cluelessness there - it was laughable frankly.

They were there to make a profit. The how is irrelevant.


Because it would earn them a tidy profit.


No it's not, because it lost them the contract.


Not at all. As I've said in another thread, my company occasionally clears warehouses, either for free or we pay a small fee. We always make a tidy profit. The last warehouse we cleared we did for free and made a profit in excess of £60,000.

If you think getting £60,000 profit for an outlay of 2 staff members for 2 days is "laughable", then I hope you're not a businessperson yourself.

It's interesting that the people who seem to dislike Susan the most are also people who still don't get the logic of paying for the office furniture in the junk task (which was actually the correct tactic for that task).

Play a different tune. Its not that people didnt get the concept. Its that people didnt see Susan get the concept. Why would she say hours later in the car in a bewildered voice ...... 'Oh so I was right after all...' if she got it. If she fully understood the concept she would have known she was right all along.

You again. Well at least you admit paying for the office furniture was the right idea now

She did understand the concept, but it must have been hard to actually believe in it when she had Zoe foghorning in her face about how wrong she was, with Edna agreeing.

Her fault wasn't in not understanding, it was in listening to Zoe.

I think she would. She was quite forthright with Glenn, for example, even though he was PM (and a man, if that matters). She doesn't pull her punches with anyone.

Whether anyone else would have warranted it is another matter.

LOL, when did they save the day? That's as funny and as pointless as saying she has a bent nose.

As you say she is inexperienced, childish, immature, whiney and sulky. These are definitely her bad points, but I doubt she is going to come away from this TV process as quite the same person as she did when she went into it. And I suppose the positive is that while she has displayed these negative traits quite a bit, it's not like she hasn't displayed some good qualities as well in bits on the flip side also.

If she can weed out these immaturity qualities and expand on the business skills which she already has (and she does have some, even if it pains some of us to say so) then she'll prob turn out to be a better business person than we'd all even predict. I doubt those changes will have come in time for her to win this show though but with the effects of this experience probably happening post-filming.

She is very whiny, but pretty harmless.

Didn't there used to be more posts on this thread?