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Susan Ma - dumb whiny brat
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marvola45
08-07-2011
Originally Posted by Paace:
“I like Susan and more so after hearing about the appalling bullying she suffered as a school kid . Why are children of school age so nasty to anyone who is seen as different .

But putting on a cold business head she is far too naive in business and dealing with people, and over the weeks she's made far too many really silly mistakes. Was it her choice to go to the most expensive area of London with millionaire's houses and maids and try and sell her goods and waste all that time?

I wouldn't mind if she won but I can't see a grizzled old hard boiled guy like LS going into partnership with such a naive and inexperienced person.”

The voiceover says she was 'sent' to West London but we don't know who actually came up with idea in the first place.

But even if it is her silly mistake, it's one that she can easily learn from and is unlikely to repeat.
trollface
08-07-2011
Originally Posted by dogcatrabbit:
“To be honest, she's a typical example of the 'hard working Asian' -

By Asian, I mean of Chinese, Japanese, Korean etc stock, of course!. For some reason, in the UK there are mixed interpretations of what Asian is - some refer it to Indian stock - Bizarre, as the rest of the world (including the US and Asia) it refers to Oriental people.”

South Asians are the largest minority in Britain. If you say "Asian" in Britain, then chances are you're referring to someone from South Asia. "Indian" would be wrong unless the person in question actually came from India. And I'm sure that someone from India or Pakistan or Bangladesh, or other South Asian countries would actually know what continent they are from.

Incidentally, it's generally considered offensive to refer to people as "Oriental". Objects and culture, sure, but people is generally a no-no.
Paace
08-07-2011
[quote=trollface;51287697]South Asians are the largest minority in Britain. If you say "Asian" in Britain, then chances are you're referring to someone from South Asia. "Indian" would be wrong unless the person in question actually came from India. And I'm sure that someone from India or Pakistan or Bangladesh, or other South Asian countries would actually know what continent they are from.

Incidentally, it's generally considered offensive to refer to people as "Oriental". Objects and culture, sure, but people is generally a no-no.[/QUOTE]

The first I've heard of it. Who decided to take offensive at oriental? Someone from the Orient.

I must wake up tomorrow and find some words to be offended by.
Consigliere
09-07-2011
Can't believe Ma is still there!!

Has Sugar taken leave of his senses?

She won't win of course, so it'll be fun to see her face crumple up with misery when she finally does get the boot
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“Can't believe Ma is still there!!

Has Sugar taken leave of his senses? ”

Not only is she still here, she's also far and away the most popular candidate with DS members.

Quote:
“She won't win of course, so it'll be fun to see her face crumple up with misery when she finally does get the boot ”

What a truly delightful person you are.
Consigliere
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“Not only is she still here, she's also far and away the most popular candidate with DS members.

:”

no way. Tom is way more popular both here and in the general public at large. so is Helen
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“no way. Tom is way more popular both here and in the general public at large. so is Helen”

You were saying?
Cherrybomber
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“no way. Tom is way more popular both here and in the general public at large. so is Helen”

I don't think Helen is popular at all, and I believe her popularity is about to drop further.
Tom has been consistently popular and Susans popularity appears to be on the rise.
Consigliere
09-07-2011
that poll isn't representative of anything
Consigliere
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“I don't think Helen is popular at all, and I believe her popularity is about to drop further.
Tom has been consistently popular and Susans popularity appears to be on the rise.”

everyone I know hates Maaaa with a passion - as do I
Carlisle156
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“everyone I know hates Maaaa with a passion - as do I ”

You and your friends hate somebody you don't know?

What a fantastic person you are!
Cherrybomber
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“everyone I know hates Maaaa with a passion - as do I ”

I dont know anyone in person who hates her.

They either like her and hope she wins or think she's good but wont win or at worst they think she is young and enthusiastic but has some more too learn.

I dont know anyone who likes Melody and I only know one person who likes Jim, and he's a knobhead.
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“that poll isn't representative of anything”

ROFLMAO!

I'm sure you'd love to believe that but it's perfectly clear that it is representative of the feelings of people here.

Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“everyone I know hates Maaaa with a passion - as do I ”

That doesn't surprise me in the slightest because given the nature of your postings here I can just imagine the type of people who would be prepared to befriend you. Imagine them, yes, but I certainly wouldn't want to meet them!

Susan is the most popular candidate on this site by a mile!

You are going to have to learn to accept that.
batman.
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“that poll isn't representative of anything”

You said Tom is way more popular than Susan here.

That poll is for here.

Susan beat Tom.

Susan is more popular than Tom here.
Cherrybomber
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“You and your friends hate somebody you don't know?

What a fantastic person you are! ”

Now, I disagree with Consiglere but I also dislike this thing about people using the word 'hate'.
Its very often picked up, as you have done, on DS and it's usually to be a bit patronising and put down the people who've said it.
We all say 'hate' in conversation. We all do.
Such as:
I hate anchovies.
I hate Eastenders
I hate queueing for the loo at a theatre
I hate Man City
and- E.G. I hate Cheryl Cole or Chris Moyles or Paul O'Grady.

It's just a figure of speech, about things you dislike or that irritate you. I dont think that if he/she met Susan, Consiglere wouldn't truly hate her unless she commited an act of extreme cruelty towards him.
Or pinched his last Rolo
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“Now, I disagree with Consiglere but I also dislike this thing about people using the word 'hate'.
Its very often picked up, as you have done, on DS and it's usually to be a bit patronising and put down the people who've said it.
We all say 'hate' in conversation. We all do.
Such as:
I hate anchovies.
I hate Eastenders
I hate queueing for the loo at a theatre
I hate Man City
and- E.G. I hate Cheryl Cole or Chris Moyles or Paul O'Grady.

It's just a figure of speech, about things you dislike or that irritate you. I dont think that if he/she met Susan, Consiglere wouldn't truly hate her unless she commited an act of extreme cruelty towards him.
Or pinched his last Rolo ”

Generally, you may be correct.

I characterise 'haters' as people who repeatedly post negatively about one candidate without ever really posting anything about the process. It doesn't necessarily mean I believe that they literally hate the person involved.

In this case, however:

Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“everyone I know hates Maaaa with a passion - as do I ”

The poster has made their feeling abundantly clear.
Consigliere
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“I dont know anyone in person who hates her.

I dont know anyone who likes Melody and I only know one person who likes Jim, and he's a knobhead. ”

I hated Melody too and I don't really like Jim. Tom and Helen are the only remotely credible candidates. And I think Tom will win because this year Lord Vader will take a risk rather than going with the safe option like last year - the corporate Stella.


Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“


It's just a figure of speech, about things you dislike or that irritate you. I dont think that if he/she met Susan, Consiglere wouldn't truly hate her
”

actually I would
Carlisle156
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“I hated Melody too and I don't really like Jim. Tom and Helen are the only remotely credible candidates. And I think Tom will win because this year Lord Vader will take a risk rather than going with the safe option like last year - the corporate Stella.




actually I would
”

Well judging by your attitude and previous posts, I can't say she'd be a fan of you, too.

Susan & Jim are the only two who have a chance at winning.
Tissy
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“Well judging by your attitude and previous posts, I can't say she'd be a fan of you, too.

Susan & Jim are the only two who have a chance at winning.”

Why - are they the only two left in the competition or do you know something we don`t?
Consigliere
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“
Susan & Jim are the only two who have a chance at winning.”

Rubbish. Jim might be in with a chance, but Ma won't win in a million years.

It'll be Tom or Helen
footygirl
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Consigliere:
“Rubbish. Jim might be in with a chance, but Ma won't win in a million years.

It'll be Tom or Helen”

No it wont - Helen doesn't have a business which is proven already - that is why he will choose Suzy - because it is a safe option for him - it is a proven moneyspinner for him

Your dislike of Suzy is your undoing which means your alleged arguement has no foundation
Carlisle156
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Why - are they the only two left in the competition or do you know something we don`t?”

I have avoided the spoiler thread (and any other spoilers) like the plague, so no, I know nothing that you don't.

Helen proved this week that she won't win.

Natasha has her cards marked and if she survives this week, I will be VERY shocked.

Tom is useless, even though he is a really likeable guy.
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“Helen proved this week that she won't win.”

That's a bit of a stretch.

I know that a lot of the DS members here seem to form their allegiances on the basis of the most recent task but I'm sure Sugar will take a much broader view.

One bad week is not going to demolish the rest of the process.
Carlisle156
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“That's a bit of a stretch.

I know that a lot of the DS members here seem to form their allegiances on the basis of the most recent task but I'm sure Sugar will take a much broader view.

One bad week is not going to demolish the rest of the process.”

Even then, what has she actually done other than been lucky enough to win every time.

The only times I've viewed her as a winner were when she broke the record after her fantastic pitch and when she came up with the star-themed biscuits.

Two things which, in the grand scheme of things, don't really equal her as this godsend.
Jepson
09-07-2011
Originally Posted by Carlisle156:
“Even then, what has she actually done other than been lucky enough to win every time.

The only times I've viewed her as a winner were when she broke the record after her fantastic pitch and when she came up with the star-themed biscuits.

Two things which, in the grand scheme of things, don't really equal her as this godsend.”

I'm not saying she's a 'Godsend' nor that she will win.

Just that it's pretty daft to write any candidate off just on the basis of a bad week.

Just as it's pretty stupid to suddenly ramp up a candidates chances from nowhere on the basis of a good one.

And yet this is exactly what a lot of people do.
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