They sure would complain if they had the Toshiba DVD player I have, only has 2x 8x 30x and 100x FF & FR.
What were they thinking when they come up with that???

It's not a channel/programme problem, the box will always give the right aspect ratio with respect to a 16:9 frame if correctly set. For instance 16:9 material is displayed as anamorphic, filling the frame, 4:3 material is pillar boxed by the HDR into the 16:9 frame with black side bars inserted (assuming pillar box mode selected). That isn't the problem. What's wrong is the entire HDMI output of the box is permanently flagged 4:3 using the aspect ratio HDMI flag. If your TV responds to this, the box's output is then further pillar boxed to 4:3 by the TV. This means on 4:3 material it's pillar boxed twice! If your TV doesn't respond to AR commands over HDMI, or you have 16:9 permanently set (non-auto), then the picture shape is always correct. The aspect ratio flag is part of the HDMI spec, and is set wrongly by the HDR.

In that case as my TV is set to Auto and does switch between 4:3 and 16:9 material correctly then my HDR is not displaying that behaviour. There must be something else going on.

Mine is set exactly the same and behaves impeccably with different resolutions.

ITV4, quantum leap and police camera action.

I too am getting this problem since the update. I definatley have not touched the tv setup, it worked fine in v13

and 206 Russia Today too.

The Humax box changes the AR for you. You get a 16:9 output all the time, but with 4:3 material the black bars are inserted by the HDR to make it 16:9. The TV doesn't need to do anything.

A Sky HD box doesn't re-size at all, everything is output anamorphically, but the HDMI command is used to switch the TV. My TV behaves impeccably with the Sky+HD box, AR switches correctly.

When I switch to my HDMI fed Freeview box, DVD Recorder or my Blu-Ray player, all of which re-size into a 16:9 frame like the Humax, the TV goes to 16:9 and it all works perfectly. When the Humax is connected, It starts with a 16:9 splash-screen absolutely fine, when the channel appears then everything gets pillar boxed to 4:3. This is because the Humax HDR sends a 4:3 command permanently over HDMI. There are many TVs that don't respond to the HDMI AR command. Mine is a Toshiba and does. Some newer LGs do. Your TV may have auto, but that's no guarantee it responds to HDMI AR. If it doesn't the HDR would function correctly.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?t=1160271&

My Tv is a Toshiba to. That explains why it is ok. The technicalities are above my head.

Just out of interest, is there anyone here who does not think the Humax HDR would be better if the functions of the Guide button and Schedule-Red sequence were swapped?

Shame on you. Where would forums like this be if manufacturers were to start adopting common-sense approaches like that?

anyone getting subtitles coming on when you rewind live recording then play?

You have to turn subs on and then turn subs off for each channel that it happens.

Its a know problem that they refused to fix but there is that workaround.

Yes since we were made aware of the workaround,I have had no problems at all.
Flyer you say that you had to apply the workaround for each channel that it happene on,but I only had to perform the workaround once and it solved the problem on all channels that it had been happening on.

I had it come up on both BBC HD channels so I did the fix on one but it still came up on the other and had to do the fix again but I havent had it come up on any more channels.

That will be nobody, then? Not even the Humax trolls?

Perhaps because most don't care either way. If they swapped it that's fine, if they don't that's also fine. I can't see what the fuss is about personally.

I think you got your answer, Humax screwed up.

There are quite a few more important issues thart need sorting before they spend resources on making this change. IMHO.

What resources? Surely it wouldnt take a lot of effort to swap the buttons.

dont forget, they let the beta go untouched for 6 months and still made the boxes worse.

They just dont care, all their effort is going into new boxes but they fail to realise people will look elsewhere after putting up with this awful support.

It sure would. It may look like a two-line code change but the known and unknown knock-on effects could be trickier to deal with.

It sounds like you haven't been involved in software development. I have - for nearly 25 years. There is no such thing as a minor code change in commercial software.
And there is the cost of QA and documentation.

Grow up!!

Yes but its very easy to test with only 1 hardware configuration.

Its funny how a single person can code a game like minecraft to run on millions of different configurations yet a whole team of professionals cant even get the basics right in one configuration and theyve had years to do it.

That is a separate issue. We are talking about Humax is capable of doing.

So theyre not capable of doing a fraction of the work despite many times the manpower?

People have modded their own firmware and added features with no side effects, Humax cant even get the basics right because they dont give a crap.