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Keisha Buchanan confirms solo career...do you care?
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cnbcwatcher
14-06-2011
Not overly bothered but I'm intrigued to hear the songs.
KingJJScott
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“The ARE the SUGABABES whether people like it or not.”

I agree and have done since Keisha went.. To me, Heidi has been as important to the Sugababes as Siobhan was, had been there for longer than Siobhan and Mutya and is nearly on par with how long Keisha has been in the group.. I can't imagine songs like Freak, Too Lost In You, Stronger etc, etc, without Heidi's vocals..

Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“The bullying was confirmed by Siobhan when she first left.

ALSO - if she hadn't been bullying Heidi and Amelle, why would the label intervene and replace her with Jade?

If Heidi and Amelle had dismissed her, then they would have gone on the prowl for a new member.”

The only reason I tend to believe bully-like behaviour went on is that it came from Siobhan, Heidi and Amelle.. To my knowledge, Heidi and Amelle have never met Siobhan which does make it more believable..

Island took a big step and lost a lot of money on Sweet 7 and I doubt a big label with a big history would take that kind of risk if they didn't believe Keisha was the issue
Unigal07
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher:
“Not overly bothered but I'm intrigued to hear the songs.”

Me too. Keisha - bully or not - made the Sugababes for me. When Mutya left I became less interested. When Keisha left they were over for me.
KingJJScott
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“Lol, much like the bullying claims, the only 'hype' I hear about them is from you lot on here.:yawn:”

They have had some good reviews based on a 36 second clip or a 1 minute clip that has been remixed for a Nokia advert, is Nokia not one of the biggest phone manufacturers in the world..?

It seems to me quite a few people are getting the well-deserved hype
ICON111
14-06-2011
Love her. Whether you like it or not she was/is Sugababes. That's band is hers. Don't get me wrong love Sugas 4.0 but Keisha will always be my fave Sugababe. Maybe she was a bad bitch but not a bully.

I wish her the best of success. She has the talent to make herself go far.
_Venger_
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by ICON111:
“Love her. Whether you like it or not she was/is Sugababes.”

No one person IS a band hence why bands can survive members leaving and others being replaced.

Keisha was and is dispensable
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by Unigal07:
“Me too. Keisha - bully or not - made the Sugababes for me. When Mutya left I became less interested. When Keisha left they were over for me.”

On the contrary, they began when they released Overload. They ARE still going.
mimi123456
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by KingJJScott:
“ They have had some good reviews based on a 36 second clip or a 1 minute clip that has been remixed for a Nokia advert, is Nokia not one of the biggest phone manufacturers in the world..?”

Nokia WAS one of the biggest phone manufacturers in the world. Since Android took over, they seem to have gone downhill. New phone they have just released is good.

Anyhoo, was kinda sad when Keisha got booted. But I don't think it will be long before either Amelle or Heidi get given the heave ho.

I was a Keisha fan, but the Gimme Pressure song is so lame it's unreal. Not overly bothered for the Sugababes either. I thought ABOUT A GIRL would have hit the Top Spot, and it was a splendid song, but it kinda bombed, which was a shame.

Good luck to all of them and I hope they all get good chartings.
ICON111
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by _Venger_:
“No one person IS a band hence why bands can survive members leaving and others being replaced.

Keisha was and is dispensable”

Excuse me. You missed my point. Keisha is the band in sense that she had the most recognise voice out of all the Sugababes and also she was longest serving member from the start of the band. So she is a band because now Sugababes are a brand. Sorry Venger I know you jump from train to train with every Babe replacement.
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by mimi123456:
“I thought ABOUT A GIRL would have hit the Top Spot, and it was a splendid song, but it kinda bombed, which was a shame.

Good luck to all of them and I hope they all get good chartings.”

Big love to a fellow fan of that song
_Venger_
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by mimi123456:
“Nokia WAS one of the biggest phone manufacturers in the world. Since Android took over, they seem to have gone downhill. New phone they have just released is good.

Anyhoo, was kinda sad when Keisha got booted. But I don't think it will be long before either Amelle or Heidi get given the heave ho.

I was a Keisha fan, but the Gimme Pressure song is so lame it's unreal. Not overly bothered for the Sugababes either. I thought ABOUT A GIRL would have hit the Top Spot, and it was a splendid song, but it kinda bombed, which was a shame.

Good luck to all of them and I hope they all get good chartings.”

Heidi said they would split if another person left. Anyway I dont see it being Amelle or Heidi as they are very close friends and support each other. Im not sure about Jade's relationship with them but I hope its good.
_Venger_
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by ICON111:
“Excuse me. You missed my point. Keisha is the band in sense that she had the most recognise voice out of all the Sugababes”

I dont think she did

That is entirely an opinion not factual at all.

To me Mutya had the BIG stand out Sugababes voice that dominated her era. After her I'd say Heidi

Keisha is down the list with Siobhan for me.

Quote:
“Sorry Venger I know you jump from train to train with every Babe replacement.”

Yes I do only for me they are about the music not one member.
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by _Venger_:
“I dont think she did

That is entirely an opinion not factual at all.

To me Mutya had the BIG stand out Sugababes voice that dominated her era. After her I'd say Heidi

Keisha is down the list with Siobhan for me.”

I love all of them, apart from Keisha.

The bullying put me off her.
KingJJScott
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by ICON111:
“Excuse me. You missed my point. Keisha is the band in sense that she had the most recognise voice out of all the Sugababes and also she was longest serving member from the start of the band. So she is a band because now Sugababes are a brand. Sorry Venger I know you jump from train to train with every Babe replacement. ”

Mutya's voice is definitely the most recognisable voice of Sugababes, and Heidi (in terms is distinguishable vocals) is second in line.. Keisha has a good girlband voice, but she won't stand out on the radio enough..

And the band/brand argument ended in 2005 when Keisha said of Mutya's departure ""It goes without saying that we will all miss Mutya, but we also knew there was still a place for bringing in somebody new who could help us carry on taking the Sugababes brand of music forward."

Every new Babe has brought something different to the group
Zack06
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by _Venger_:
“No one person IS a band hence why bands can survive members leaving and others being replaced.

Keisha was and is dispensable”

If either Siobhan or Mutya were still in the band, then she would most definitely be dispensable...her voice is generic, and although it is good, it doesn't really stand out as a wow voice...

I could hardly tell the difference between her versions of the Sweet 7 tracks and Jade's and in most cases, Jade's versions were better...

I don't think she will work as a solo artist, its a combination of leaving it too late and a bad reputation...but if she comes back with a high budget and a good PR story, i.e 'I faced hardship, but now I'm going it alone and stronger than ever' etc...she could be pretty successful...
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by KingJJScott:
“Mutya's voice is definitely the most recognisable voice of Sugababes, and Heidi (in terms is distinguishable vocals) is second in line.. Keisha has a good girlband voice, but she won't stand out on the radio enough..

And the band/brand argument ended in 2005 when Keisha said of Mutya's departure ""It goes without saying that we will all miss Mutya, but we also knew there was still a place for bringing in somebody new who could help us carry on taking the Sugababes brand of music forward."

Every new Babe has brought something different to the group”

Her own words came back to bite her on the bum
stvn758
14-06-2011
Her new album is to be called Sour Grapes.
KingJJScott
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“Her own words came back to bite her on the bum ”

I quite like the fact that Keisha fans don't realise she said that and go down the brand vs band line
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by stvn758:
“Her new album is to be called Sour Grapes.”

I heard there would be a deluxe edition under the title of "Extreme" Sour Grapes.
mimi123456
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“Big love to a fellow fan of that song ”

ABOUT A GIRL hit all the notes for me. OK, so they dressed like skanks, but it was one of their best songs ever! In fact, I am gonna have to YouTube it now. It rocks.

Originally Posted by _Venger_:
“Heidi said they would split if another person left. Anyway I dont see it being Amelle or Heidi as they are very close friends and support each other. Im not sure about Jade's relationship with them but I hope its good.”

Amelle is a bad girl and I have never really taken to her to be honest. So if she goes, I would not be too bothered. Were not Keisha and Heidi close friends for a while too?

Not sure if it will work though. Mutya, Keisha and Siobhan were the originals, be it for a short while, but they gelled cos they were a bunch of sour faced grumpy bitches, and that was their attitude. Now they have Amelle - who is a skanky bad girl, Heidi - who is just Heidi, and Jade - who just looks like a little girl trying too hard to be sexy. it just looks wrong. I am sure they will do really well though.

In my opinion, Keisha should not make a tool of herself trying to release songs. She will bomb as do all other girl band fatalities (or do well for a while and then bomb). She would be much better as a grumpy security guard or a bouncer
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by mimi123456:
“ABOUT A GIRL hit all the notes for me. OK, so they dressed like skanks, but it was one of their best songs ever! In fact, I am gonna have to YouTube it now. It rocks.



Amelle is a bad girl and I have never really taken to her to be honest. So if she goes, I would not be too bothered. Were not Keisha and Heidi close friends for a while too?

Not sure if it will work though. Mutya, Keisha and Siobhan were the originals, be it for a short while, but they gelled cos they were a bunch of sour faced grumpy bitches, and that was their attitude. Now they have Amelle - who is a skanky bad girl, Heidi - who is just Heidi, and Jade - who just looks like a little girl trying too hard to be sexy. it just looks wrong. I am sure they will do really well though.”

1. I have been listening to Sweet 7 all day
2. They seem more united now
Zack06
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“1. I have been listening to Sweet 7 all day
2. They seem more united now”

Sugababes 4.0 do seem alot more comfortable together. I think Amelle was just glad that Keisha was ousted from the band, given their past 'difficulties'...

Sweet 7, though was not a good album. It had good moments, but they were trying way to hard to sound American and it just didn't hit the right note at all...where Alexandra Burke managed to make a perfectly international sounding album, they allowed the dreadful Get Sexy to mar that campaign (for me anyway)...

I hope Keisha comes back with strong material, but she doesn't look like a solo artist at all to me...
MrIncredible
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“I love all of them, apart from Keisha.

The bullying put me off her.”

Fag-Ash Heidi and Chavelle don't look much like bullying victims to me.

However having said that, Keisha's solo career will clearly fail.
myscrapbook2011
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“Sugababes 4.0 do seem alot more comfortable together. I think Amelle was just glad that Keisha was ousted from the band, given their past 'difficulties'...

Sweet 7, though was not a good album. It had good moments, but they were trying way to hard to sound American and it just didn't hit the right note at all...where Alexandra Burke managed to make a perfectly international sounding album, they allowed the dreadful Get Sexy to mar that campaign (for me anyway)...

I hope Keisha comes back with strong material, but she doesn't look like a solo artist at all to me...”

I would have left the following songs off:
Get Sexy
Little Miss Perfect
Thank You For The Heartbreak
Zack06
14-06-2011
Originally Posted by myscrapbook2011:
“I would have left the following songs off:
Get Sexy
Little Miss Perfect
Thank You For The Heartbreak”

The Ryan Tedder demo for that is actually very good, but they don't sound like they believe in their version...

Agree about the others...I love She's A Mess though...
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