[Verence]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jun/15/bbc4-bbc

[barnsleykeith]

How are they going to fit in all the subbed foreign drama they have promised us?? We will need a BBC4 MkII channel to get them all in

[ItJustMyOpinion]

I wish they would repeat the Killing, I don't have the cash for the box set. Especially as it could be terrible. I have read some spoilers, but I think I have forgotten them, having not seen the show.

[Ian Cleverly]

I bet they only bought it 'cos "Jan Meyer" is in it

Edit: And I see one of the actresses won an award in one of the categories in a TV Awards festival I was tlaking about in This thread

[dekaf]

looks good, doesn't it, but I hope they show TK 2 first.

[the_lostprophet]

I just came on here to link to this!

[Straker]

Originally Posted by barnsleykeith

How are they going to fit in all the subbed foreign drama they have promised us?? We will need a BBC4 MkII channel to get them all in

Promises get broken. BBC4 Mk II!? We’ll be lucky to hold onto the existing one and even if we do that one will have next to no drama on it as they’ve made clear in their new “mission statement”.

[allie4]

Originally Posted by Straker

Promises get broken. BBC4 Mk II!? We’ll be lucky to hold onto the existing one and even if we do that one will have next to no drama on it as they’ve made clear in their new “mission statement”.

Nihil desperandum, Straker! They haven't axed it YET!!
At least they seem to be commissioning new foreign dramas still...

[Straker]

Originally Posted by allie4

Nihil desperandum, Straker! They haven't axed it YET!!
At least they seem to be commissioning new foreign dramas still...

It’ll survive but in a bowlderised version none of us want. The series dribbling on-air now such as this are ones where the deals will have been made earlier this year or even last. If the new policy comes into effect I can’t see how 10 or 20 hours of imported drama fits into that new regime.

[bean999]

Originally Posted by barnsleykeith

How are they going to fit in all the subbed foreign drama they have promised us?? We will need a BBC4 MkII channel to get them all in

I'd be very happy with a BBC Euro Channel.

[nicktrow]

Originally Posted by bean999

I'd be very happy with a BBC Euro Channel.

Oooo, thats a good idea. Sadly probably not viable from the BBC at the moment, how about a commercial operator picking up from the success of BBC FOUR? More4, Sky Arts?

[Jaycee Dove]

Why do not the BBC and lead broadcasters from other Euro nations create a showcase channel that screens the best of each of their wares?

That way it would be economic and the EEC would likely give it a grant and an award.

[Verence]

Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove

Why do not the BBC and lead broadcasters from other Euro nations create a showcase channel that screens the best of each of their wares?

That way it would be economic and the EEC would likely give it a grant and an award.

If that happened the Daily Heil would probably get really annoyed and say that the channel was full of Euro-propaganda.

Mind you anything that winds up the Heil is fine by me

[Terry Telly]

Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove

....the EEC would likely give it a grant and an award.

It's been calling itself the EU for the last twenty years and, during the hopefully short time it exists, it needs to cut its budget and spending (as many Governments of nations currently in the EU are doing). The UK gets back from the EU less than a third of the total amount the British people are forced to pay into it. The sooner we are out of the EU the better.

[Terry Telly]

Originally Posted by Verence

....would probably get really annoyed and say that the channel was full of Euro-propaganda.

The BBC has been accused of pro-EU bias many times before now by a number of people and by more than one publication. The EU spends millions of Pounds of British taxpayers' money promoting itself. We do not need to give the unpopular EU more reasons to spend British money.

There is already a television channel run jointly by some broadcasters in Germany and France and I believe that some UK programme makers have been a part of the production of a number of its broadcasts.

[Terry Telly]

Originally Posted by bean999

I'd be very happy with a BBC Euro Channel.

The BBC doesn't need to start "euro" channels - it's pro-EU slant can be seen/heard in a number of its programmes. The BBC is not called by some the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation for nothing.

As mentioned in my last posting to this thread: there is already a television channel run jointly by some broadcasters in Germany and France and I believe that some UK programme makers have been a part of the production of a number of its broadcasts.

[bean999]

Originally Posted by Terry Telly

The BBC doesn't need to start "euro" channels - it's pro-EU slant can be seen/heard in a number of its programmes. The BBC is not called by some the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation for nothing.

As mentioned in my last posting to this thread: there is already a television channel run jointly by some broadcasters in Germany and France and I believe that some UK programme makers have been a part of the production of a number of its broadcasts.

I'm very surprised to hear you say that. I would say the BBC has a clear pro-US slant. It partly derives from its news coverage, partly it's there in its cultural output. There is a BBC America channel after all, and BBC News 24. There is no BBC Europe. Historically they have hardly had any interest in it.

[vinegar vera]

The series is very good. I saw it weekly on SVT's (maker of Rolf Lassgård Wallander) own website as they were airing it weekly this year.

It features Søren Malling (Jan Meyer The Killing) in each of the ten episodes. Here's a pic of him at the top of this link http://www.dr.dk/DR1/Borgen/karakter...0517142856.htm

Bjarne Henriksen (Theis The Killing) also pops up in three episodes.

I am not 100% certain but I seem to remember Ann Eleonora Jørgensen (Pernille The Killing) turning up in episode 2.

It is a decent series, made by the extremely talented drama team at DR. Other series that would certainly be worthy of a BBC4 showing are UNIT ONE (REJSEHOLDET) featuring Lars Mikkelsen's (Troels The Killing) brother Mads. Also NIKOLAJ AND JULIE (NIKOLAJ OG JULIE) starring Sofie Gråbøl (Lund The Killing) as Julie, Farshad Kholghi (Rama The Killing) in two eps, Lars Mikkelsen in several eps too. I am halfway through the boxset of this and loving it. It's a story of a 30something couple and their home, work, baby, friends issues.

Try Borgen / Government. It is worth a go.

[the_lostprophet]

Originally Posted by bean999

I'm very surprised to hear you say that. I would say the BBC has a clear pro-US slant. It partly derives from its news coverage, partly it's there in its cultural output. There is a BBC America channel after all, and BBC News 24. There is no BBC Europe. Historically they have hardly had any interest in it.

No I think they have a pro-EU slant; they would seem to have a liberal bias which in this case apparently includes being fans of the EU.

[the_lostprophet]

Originally Posted by vinegar vera

The series is very good. I saw it weekly on SVT's (maker of Rolf Lassgård Wallander) own website as they were airing it weekly this year.

It features Søren Malling (Jan Meyer The Killing) in each of the ten episodes. Here's a pic of him at the top of this link http://www.dr.dk/DR1/Borgen/karakter...0517142856.htm

Bjarne Henriksen (Theis The Killing) also pops up in three episodes.

I am not 100% certain but I seem to remember Ann Eleonora Jørgensen (Pernille The Killing) turning up in episode 2.

Oh good - would be cool to see these various actors again. I think I read online that Søren Malling is a comedian too; would explain how he pulled off the quirky aspects of Meyer's character.

[FaithInEliza]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

I wish they would repeat the Killing, I don't have the cash for the box set. Especially as it could be terrible. I have read some spoilers, but I think I have forgotten them, having not seen the show.

They are, in July

[SheepdogNo1]

Originally Posted by Terry Telly

It's been calling itself the EU for the last twenty years and, during the hopefully short time it exists, it needs to cut its budget and spending (as many Governments of nations currently in the EU are doing). The UK gets back from the EU less than a third of the total amount the British people are forced to pay into it. The sooner we are out of the EU the better.

We dont get as much because we dont put projects together to renew the infrastructure of the country like other countries do. We could have the North Wales coast rail route from Crewe to Holyhead electrified & rebuilt using EU money because it forms a arterial link to Ireland, but we dont. The country doesnt invest like it should & therefore it doenst get the money. Like everything else in this tinpot country , everything done on the cheap , wont spend any money to make things better, but can find money for any old war / fools errands in the sand.

Thank god for BBC4 getting its hands on these programmes. At least somebody is barve enough to screen things with subtitles & that are well made & entertaining. Take BBC4 off & what would be left?

[Verence]

Originally Posted by vinegar vera

The series is very good. I saw it weekly on SVT's (maker of Rolf Lassgård Wallander) own website as they were airing it weekly this year.

It features Søren Malling (Jan Meyer The Killing) in each of the ten episodes. Here's a pic of him at the top of this link http://www.dr.dk/DR1/Borgen/karakter...0517142856.htm

Bjarne Henriksen (Theis The Killing) also pops up in three episodes.

I am not 100% certain but I seem to remember Ann Eleonora Jørgensen (Pernille The Killing) turning up in episode 2.

It is a decent series, made by the extremely talented drama team at DR. Other series that would certainly be worthy of a BBC4 showing are UNIT ONE (REJSEHOLDET) featuring Lars Mikkelsen's (Troels The Killing) brother Mads. Also NIKOLAJ AND JULIE (NIKOLAJ OG JULIE) starring Sofie Gråbøl (Lund The Killing) as Julie, Farshad Kholghi (Rama The Killing) in two eps, Lars Mikkelsen in several eps too. I am halfway through the boxset of this and loving it. It's a story of a 30something couple and their home, work, baby, friends issues.

Try Borgen / Government. It is worth a go.

As I've said before, something like half the cast of The Killing turn up in Unit One at some point

[the_lostprophet]

Originally Posted by SheepdogNo1

We dont get as much because we dont put projects together to renew the infrastructure of the country like other countries do. We could have the North Wales coast rail route from Crewe to Holyhead electrified & rebuilt using EU money because it forms a arterial link to Ireland, but we dont. The country doesnt invest like it should & therefore it doenst get the money. Like everything else in this tinpot country , everything done on the cheap , wont spend any money to make things better, but can find money for any old war / fools errands in the sand.

Thank god for BBC4 getting its hands on these programmes. At least somebody is barve enough to screen things with subtitles & that are well made & entertaining. Take BBC4 off & what would be left?

This thread is in danger of being derailed if all this EU debating continues. It's starting to be more appropriate to a thread in politics. Not sure how the EU/Europe issues seem to be getting confused anyway - they're two separate things. I for one can't stand the EU as a political entity - the whole idea of ploughing tons of money into it and that the aim is eventually a federal superstate with subsequent loss of British identity. BUT I very much like the European peoples and European countries. I am also very glad that BBC4 is buying up these various European crime dramas (and even comedies). But that's all nothing to do with my opinion on the EU.

Anyway hopefully soon we can get back to talking about 'Government'.

[Terry Telly]

Originally Posted by bean999

I would say the BBC has a clear pro-US slant. It partly derives from its news coverage, partly it's there in its cultural output. There is a BBC America channel after all, and BBC News 24. There is no BBC Europe. Historically they have hardly had any interest in it.

The BBC have programmes about the EU on the BBC Parliament Channel. This includes coverage of MEP debates and a weekly broadcast called The Record - Europe.

The BBC is, of course, a part of the Eurovision network where broadcasters in it share some programmes. This does not just include the Eurovision Song Contest - the Vienna News Year's Day Concert is another programme put out on Eurovision and broadcast by the BBC. The Easter Day address in the Vatican by The Pope comes via Eurovision. I also understand that BBC coverage of the Royal Wedding in April went out via Eurovision to most european nations (and to several other nations outside europe who have a broadcaster which is a member of Eurovision).