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Old 15-06-2011, 18:55
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According to Companies House Tropic Skin Care Ltd was incorporated in January 2011, but, Susan's Linkedin profile, and website, gives the impression that she has been a director since June 2007. She must have been self employed before Jan 2011 in reality.

Won't this cause her problems at the interview stage - assuming she gets there?. She has no way of proving her business acumen if the interviewers can't see how she paid her way thru university, paid off her mums mortgage and bought etc. etc..

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Old 15-06-2011, 19:12
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The Tropic brand has had several incarnations from what I understand. It started as a market stall, then got sold in shops and only recently became the more professional looking 'brand' that is now. So she has had a company for serval years but it has taken different forms.

The back history of the company is actually fully disclosed on the website, so it's not some big secret:

http://www.tropicskincare.com/static/Our_Story
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Old 15-06-2011, 19:21
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The Tropic brand has had several incarnations from what I understand. It started as a market stall, then got sold in shops and only recently became the more professional looking 'brand' that is now. So she has had a company for serval years but it has taken different forms.

The back history of the company is actually fully disclosed on the website, so it's not some big secret:

http://www.tropicskincare.com/static/Our_Story
Only directorship she has ever had commenced in January 2011. Not a big issue, but, no one can view her success if she doesn't have some accounts to prove it.

Thanks for taking the time to reply by the way.
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Old 15-06-2011, 19:33
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If her company was a small, sole trader before then she wouldn't be an official company director would she, just an official 'director; ie head of the company? I don't think her company is massive yet but clearly its developing.
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Old 15-06-2011, 19:39
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If her company was a small, sole trader before then she wouldn't be an official company director would she, just an official 'director; ie head of the company? I don't think her company is massive yet but clearly its developing.
No. She'd be self employed and as such the only person that knows how successful she is is HM Revenue & Customs. It's highly unlikely that she's going to produce a copy of her accounts and tax return at the interview stage.
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Old 15-06-2011, 20:19
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No. She'd be self employed and as such the only person that knows how successful she is is HM Revenue & Customs. It's highly unlikely that she's going to produce a copy of her accounts and tax return at the interview stage.
If her limited company only started in 2011, even HMRC would not know about her profitability. Sole traders even with registered business names are not regulated by Companies House and do not need to pay tax on profits, except as income for the sole trader. But the profits need not have been paid out to the sole trader, they could have been ploughed back into the business, in which case her stock levels plus cash in the bank would indicate the success of the business or otherwise. Only Susan's bank manager would know how well she has been doing, unless she banks in her mattress. .
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:32
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I like Susan but I now want her to take the bull by the horns and say what she thinks more and I totally agree with her when she said that because she is the youngest the others think that she is the easiest person to take into the boardroom and to get rid of. So Susan now needs to be PM and show that she has got some balls and speak her mind!
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:36
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How did Susan make a success of her business without ever having to pitch?

And on the subject of pitching, she point blank refused to do it, so why did she pretend she put herself forward?

The others were right, she changes history in the boardroom (which has now become a Nick/Susan love-in!)
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:38
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How did Susan make a success of her business without ever having to pitch?

And on the subject of pitching, she point blank refused to do it, so why did she pretend she put herself forward?

The others were right, she changes history in the boardroom (which has now become a Nick/Susan love-in!)
She's in the beauty business so I think customers would just go to her shop to get treatments and she'd probobaly just order supplies over the phone so she probobaly wouldn't need to do pitches.

I agree that she completly refused to put herself forward for the pitch and they all seemed to make Jim do it.


To the OP she must have operated as a sole trader before coming a ltd.
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:39
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How did Susan make a success of her business without ever having to pitch?

And on the subject of pitching, she point blank refused to do it, so why did she pretend she put herself forward?

The others were right, she changes history in the boardroom (which has now become a Nick/Susan love-in!)
Yes, but to be honest none of them wanted to pitch. Zoe nor Glen and even Jim did not, but Jim had no choice because he was PM. I still think that there is more to come from Susan. At the moment she is being intimidated by the others because they are older, especially Zoe!
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:41
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She's in the beauty business so I think customers would just go to her shop to get treatments and she'd probobaly just order supplies over the phone so she probobaly wouldn't need to do pitches.

I agree that she completly refused to put herself forward for the pitch and they all seemed to make Jim do it.
But they put it back on Jim because he really wanted Glen or Susan to do it but I noticed that he did not ask Zoe and she did not offer either! At the end of the day none of them wanted to do it because they knew that if it went wrong then they would be to blame for the failure of the task!
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Old 15-06-2011, 22:42
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Yes, but to be honest none of them wanted to pitch. Zoe nor Glen and even Jim did not, but Jim had no choice because he was PM. I still think that there is more to come from Susan. At the moment she is being intimidated by the others because they are older, especially Zoe!
I don't think age has had anything to do with it, but Susan has quite happily been playing that card for weeks now.
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Old 15-06-2011, 23:01
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The Tropic brand has had several incarnations from what I understand. It started as a market stall, then got sold in shops and only recently became the more professional looking 'brand' that is now. So she has had a company for serval years but it has taken different forms.

The back history of the company is actually fully disclosed on the website, so it's not some big secret:

http://www.tropicskincare.com/static/Our_Story
Just had a look at that website and if I worked for Liz Earle Skincare I'd be having an even closer look. Seems remarkably similar to me and Liz Earle has been around much longer. Something about this woman just doesn't ring true to me and falling back on the poor little me approach makes me respect her even less if that is possible.
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Old 15-06-2011, 23:08
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is she not really just an Avon lady?

cant believe that she is really the one in charge of a business.

the idea that susie is getting bullied is a joke, she would disagree with you if you said the sky was blue and then claim that she didnt. the clip on the you're fired show when she said glen's ideas were rubbish was like the pot calling the kettle black
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Old 15-06-2011, 23:11
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is she not really just an Avon lady?

cant believe that she is really the one in charge of a business.

the idea that susie is getting bullied is a joke, she would disagree with you if you said the sky was blue and then claim that she didnt. the clip on the you're fired show when she said glen's ideas were rubbish was like the pot calling the kettle black
I said weeks ago she is just an Avon Lady hands out the catalogue around friends etc
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Old 15-06-2011, 23:16
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According to Companies House Tropic Skin Care Ltd was incorporated in January 2011, but, Susan's Linkedin profile, and website, gives the impression that she has been a director since June 2007. She must have been self employed before Jan 2011 in reality.

Won't this cause her problems at the interview stage - assuming she gets there?. She has no way of proving her business acumen if the interviewers can't see how she paid her way thru university, paid off her mums mortgage and bought etc. etc..

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Is there even an interview stage? After all they are no longer being hired so whats the point of the interview, its a business proposal in essence.... but then again the name of the show doesn't make much sense with the prize either.

I highly doubt she will make it to that stage anyways, every time her time loses they'll bring her in because they all see her as the weak link and sooner or later Lord Sugar will just have enough.
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Old 15-06-2011, 23:19
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I'm watching it on bbc iplayer.

LMFAO - Hip replacement?!?!?! Can't stop laughing!!!
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Old 16-06-2011, 00:22
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LS has more or less just tweeted that about Susan. Jim should have had more sense than to bring her in the board room. He really should have been fired for this task.
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Old 16-06-2011, 00:36
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The Tropic brand has had several incarnations from what I understand. It started as a market stall, then got sold in shops and only recently became the more professional looking 'brand' that is now. So she has had a company for serval years but it has taken different forms.

The back history of the company is actually fully disclosed on the website, so it's not some big secret:

http://www.tropicskincare.com/static/Our_Story
That's an illegal website.

It doesn't give proper company registration and contact details.

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/pro...ationery.shtml

More evidence that she's little more than a betterware chancer than a proper business owner.
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Old 16-06-2011, 00:52
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That's an illegal website.

It doesn't give proper company registration and contact details.

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/pro...ationery.shtml

More evidence that she's little more than a betterware chancer than a proper business owner.
Exactly what is the registration number of this "company" and where is it based her bedroom probably
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Old 16-06-2011, 00:58
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Exactly what is the registration number of this "company" and where is it based her bedroom probably
Company No. 07507729 according to Companies House, and the address given is most likely just a Registered Address forwarding service that you can pay a few pounds a year for - you can tell because if you google the address / post code there are quite a few different companies using the same address. It's also a residential house if you check it out on Google Streetview, rather than a warehouse or office where you might expect a proper cosmetics company to hang out.
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Old 16-06-2011, 13:30
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Company No. 07507729 according to Companies House, and the address given is most likely just a Registered Address forwarding service that you can pay a few pounds a year for - you can tell because if you google the address / post code there are quite a few different companies using the same address. It's also a residential house if you check it out on Google Streetview, rather than a warehouse or office where you might expect a proper cosmetics company to hang out.
The company address is registered to an Accountancy practice! Most company addresses are registered to their accountants so that the invoices etc can be processed and organised by their accountants straight away, who acts as their 'secretary'

I don't see anything wrong with that! And makes her company seem very good if anything.
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Old 16-06-2011, 13:42
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That's an illegal website.

It doesn't give proper company registration and contact details.

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/pro...ationery.shtml

More evidence that she's little more than a betterware chancer than a proper business owner.
Look harder before you accuse a company of being 'illegal'

http://www.tropicskincare.com/terms

Company address and registration number listed at the bottom.
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Old 16-06-2011, 14:04
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http://www.tropicskincare.com/static/Press

That magazine clipping is from 2008.
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Old 16-06-2011, 18:33
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I have a feeling her parents are behind this "project" lol
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