Hello Part 179 and congrats to Mads on the OP - and it wasn't rubbish at all, it was nice.

I've been lurking on and off - haven't we been slow this afternoon, I guess everyone has gone out - it's rained about 10 times today, and is so dark where I am. Then every time I put the lights in the lounge, the sun comes out, but only for about 10 minutes then it rains again! I'm sure that was very interesting for you all...............:sleep:

I saw Sylae's post on the last page of the last thread, a very good summing up of where we are now, which is in a very confusing place! *big wave to Sylae and it's great to hear you will be back soon*.

I've re-watched the row several times now, and having managed to remove my expectations of what I thought it should have been about - I think it's actually really quite ok. So, sorry for all the negativity last night, I guess I need to learn to be patient for a bit longer, to see deeper inside Syed's head. I usually manage to lower my expectations and be open minded, but I think last night I had definitely slipped into a more expectant mode, and had assumed things would play out a certain way, but they didn't.

I thought it was all very well acted - I did love Christian going into self destruct mode with his comments about being cheap etc, clearly what he thinks about himself and I doubt Syed thinks that at all. I thought for what it was about - it was good. I am quite glad they did take a few low blows at each other - pretty realistic.

I also meant to say - to CC - in all the madness of yesterday evening I missed commenting on the Elstree Report - thanks for that and I enjoyed reading it - sounds like a long and wet day but glad you all had fun!!!

Congrats MadWorld on the OP!


Hi . I'm glad you both had a good trip!

Vrooooom!

Starfish: Glad that you're feeling chirpier . Don't worry about it . It certainly was a fun day!

Also - really strange how Masood made the comment that it was nice that Syed was involved with the boys dance, and then asking about Christian too?

Maybe being totally excluded from everything has made him think about what it has felt like for Syed.....definitely a softening in his stance, which makes me even more intrigued for the scene at Max's next week.

Wish it was Monday already!

Thank you all soo much for such a warm welcome!

Also thank you for the welcome post ChryedCrazy - I loved reading it - the Acronyms section is especially helpful!

I don't know how well i'm going to keep up with this this thread (I had a moment of confusion when I saw there is a new part) - but i'll try my best! Hopefully after my exams next week i'll be able to post lots more!!

Back, hello!

I can see Sylae and Who Me added some great things to the 'face' debate, but DS would not let me reply at that point.

So, many theories. I know mine is a bit of a bonkerness, but, it all stems from the fact that the face was caught on the word 'dad', and that before then, Syed was joining in with glee in compiling this list. So the 'dad' is the important bit.

'Dad' - enigmatic Syed - why?

The mystery deepens.

I loved that scene with Masood - definitely very odd but it made him seem more human and more like the old masood!

Thanks for the OP congrats starfish and CC

Thinking about last night's ep just makes my head hurt... I'm so confused

Hi, Starfish and other humans

Bib: A few posters mentioned this - Elphie being one of them. Personally, I don't think it is that strange. Masood is now having a taste of what it is to be excluded from the family, much like Syed faced for 4 years and is facing now.

Also, I say taste because we don't know how Masood's actions will play out when he comes vis-a-vis with Syed and Christian next week. His passionate dislike of Christian and Syed may override any 'fleeting' empathy he have for them as a result of him been 'shunned' from the rest of his family. Then again, it may not...

ETA: Congrats, Mads, on OP

I read a thing in The Mirror today (it's not worth re-typing) where Nitin talks of how Masood has been shunned and how terrible it is and how sad he feels about watching his family from the outside, missing special events etc. I wanted to say THIS IS WHAT YOU DID TO YOUR SON FOR FIVE OUT OF HIS EIGHT ADULT YEARS but I refrained because he couldn't hear me.

hiya vroooooom "Why are you back?! I banished you!"

Hiya - I know - it is actually weird how he is going along with it all and joking and seems happy enough, it is just the focus on that one word.

I have decided I love the word bonkersness.

Any of your 4 suggestions are plausible and they are certainly keeping us guessing. I am now wondering if it is more that he knows he'll lose his Dad over it - I guess we can't see him reacting to the word Mum, so maybe it is all more about losing his family over it.

Told you I'd start to change my mind!

I think it's a mixture of not wanting to face the divorce, expecting them to fail and worrying about whether they will fail because of his past - and then will Christian be able to get over the disappointment, and losing his parents for good if they disapprove so strongly. A mish mash.

LOL!!!!!!! I just snorted with laughter!!! We need to find out how to get on that bus

Me too, and I love Christian and all his BONKERSNESS

And we will, next trip to Elstree

he did say he just wants "all" of his family back together, wonder if that includes Syed.
Same when he said "he(?) was brave" did he say that about Syed, or Tamwar there?

btw, I am blacking out the 'queen/lady in waiting' comments and Syed getting a facial with a hairband on. Ridiculous.

I loved it too.


Hello! Actually, this is a prime example of my poor posting, rushing with the typing and not thinking about my words, I should have said 'intriguing', rather than strange. And of course he is experiencing the being cut off and excluded thing, yes. And indeed, he may only have a fleeting moment of sympathy, we do know from another spoiler that he is enraged when he see's Christian has been invited so that isn't going to put him in a good mood with him!


Am picturing you shouting at your newspaper.

Do you think Pete was planning in advance to use this word - bonkersness?

Congrats on the OP MadWorld

I love Chryed, they are so cute

Just look at them

ETA: I still don't understand how the towel managed to stay on...it's magic

Congrats everyone on the new thread, and to MadWorld on the OP


I didn't get to watch the episode until quite late last night and was too tired to come online after so I haven't read any of last night's posts, but I'm guessing that the BIB is referring to the fact we didn't get any insight at all in how Syed really feels about the adoption. If anything it got even more confusing with that pensive look at the end I felt exactly the same way, it was like "what was the point of that?". It made me think of a line from the short story of Brokeback Mountain, after Ennis and Jack have a blazing argument and then Ennis drives away leaving "nothing ended, nothing begun, nothing resolved". So initially I was very disappointed with it. I loved the row in itself, but it didn't seem to serve any real purpose in the greater scheme of things. But having watched it a couple of times just now, I'm happy to just enjoy it for what it was. Christian was way too harsh on Syed with the comment about being a "one man woman" but he was just as harsh on himself too, which is natural and understandable given that, as he admitted himself, it wasn't about Syed possibly cheating, it was about Christian's insecurities. And I loved that Syed got that. He could have carried on and let it escalate but he knew where Christian's anger and upset was coming from and he sat down and took his hand and reassured him. That scene of them touching their foreheads together was beautiful

I do wish Syed would just be honest with Christian (and us!) about how he really feels about the adoption, and it was frustrating that we didn't get that last night, but I can wait. We should all be used to it by now anyway

This totally...it's good isn't it?


I would have done it anyway..it would have felt good. But then I blow kisses at magpies (that's nearly got me in so much trouble out and about often because the magpie has just gone) so maybe you shouldn't listen to me. But it's disappointing that they can say that without realising that Masood did that.



A mish mash of bonkersness.
I tried to reply to post of yours in the last thread but they closed it..sorry!
ETA congrats Mads.

Me too!!

Hiya Glowbot! Just concentrate on the towel and not the words

BIB 1 - I have forgotten where the exact scene was when Masood made that comment about wanting all his family back.

BIB 2 - He meant that Tam was brave to stand up to them over Syed, but then negated it in the next breath by saying he still didn't agree (i.e. with Syed being gay). One confused man.

Glowbot! For your own sanity... Many gay men (not all by far, but plenty) will use the word "Queen." Christian in a strop is very much the definition of it. JP himself has done it to the degree he's shifted pronoun and used the word "she". That's quite extreme. Queen though, is so common it means nothing. I swear, it's ok.

Did someone mention a towel?