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'Waiting for Chryed to Get It On' - Christian & Syed (Part 179)
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Glowbot
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by indiefran18:
“But he only said that in relation to calling Christian a Queen. Just this time, I think it was okay. Don't let it ruin the towel. For God sake, not the towel.

Plus, don't be down on the girls, we're pretty great. Gender is fluid and femininity isn't a negative. Too often gay culture uses it as insult (as straight culture does, but in a different way). It isn't. Being like us is pretty great. Not that I believe Syed is like us... Well, maybe the hair.”

It all adds up though doesn't it? Housewife, flowers, kilt, lady-in-waiting, doing his nails and facials... how much more needs to happen before people admit he is feminised.
Just because I don't think they should turn Syed into a woman doesn't make my a misogynist.
cooko94
18-06-2011
91 people said they liked chryed , 45 said not bothered and 24 said they didnt in the episode thread poll
crazysusan
18-06-2011
hi everyone.

this paper is doing my head in
crazysusan
18-06-2011
congrats on the new thread and mad on opening post
ChryedAreMyLife
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by SamSanti:
“GUH Why so pretty?”

because he needs to look his best on my bedside table that's right, i screen-capped a picture of syed topless, printed it off, stuck it in a frame, and it's on my bedside table why do i love him so much? nobody can answer that...
starfish100
18-06-2011
Glowbot - I do agree he is feminised. But I don't have a problem with feminine gay men because I think they have a right to be represented on TV as much as straighter acting gay men, for want of a better expression. There are all kinds. However, I wouldn't say this is the totality of his character or personality all the time.

I still maintain they both have a good mixture of feminine and masculine characteristics in both their personalities.

If some of your anger about this comes from the belief that it is being done to make them more heteronormative to the wider audience, again, I can understand this, and I think there might have been a bit of this going on - however, it hasn't worked as the homophobes are well and truly out in force over them now.

People were very disturbed by the sight of Syed in a towel, apparently. So was I of course, but for entirely different reasons. :sleep:
TipsyTennant11
18-06-2011
Is anyone else really excited for next week's eps?
Unfortunately I'm going to miss friday's one
Jack Nasty
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by cooko94:
“91 people said they liked chryed , 45 said not bothered and 24 said they didnt in the episode thread poll”

Given that the "no" option said "No. Syed should have stayed with Amira" I think we can discount those 24 votes. Anyone who thinks Syed should have stayed with Amira clearly didn't watch the sl or didn't understand it at all:sleep:
ChryedAreMyLife
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by crazysusan:
“hi everyone.

this paper is doing my head in”

hey susan
indiefran18
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by Glowbot:
“It all adds up though doesn't it? Housewife, flowers, kilt, lady-in-waiting, doing his nails and facials... how much more needs to happen before people admit he is feminised.
Just because I don't think they should turn Syed into a woman doesn't make my a misogynist.”

Course you're not! You're lovely. I agree, there is a fine line and totally get why this annoys you. And I don't think anyone wants to turn Syed into a woman. It is a real issue in general though - and I don't think it's as simple as some gay men hating women. Why are gay men who 'bottom' seen (by some in the community) as less than a man? It's a slippery slope is all I'm saying (badly, probably).
cooko94
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by TipsyTennant11:
“Is anyone else really excited for next week's eps?
Unfortunately I'm going to miss friday's one ”

i'm excited for some of it except the yusef (:yawnbit which will probably be most of it and the Tanya and Max bits
TipsyTennant11
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by Jack Nasty:
“Given that the "no" option said "No. Syed should have stayed with Amira" I think we can discount those 24 votes. Anyone who thinks Syed should have stayed with Amira claerly didn't watch the sl or didn't understand it at all:sleep:”

Exactly, I cannot understand people that wanted Syed to stay with Amira, he's gay how could he have done?! It would have been extremely unfair on Amira and also on Syed.. if he's gay why would they want them to stay together eurgh :sleep:
starfish100
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by crazysusan:
“hi everyone.

this paper is doing my head in”

Awww poor you. I was supposed to have chosen my last OU course today - haven't even been on the website yet.


Originally Posted by TipsyTennant11:
“ Is anyone else really excited for next week's eps?
Unfortunately I'm going to miss friday's one ”

I should learn my lesson, but yes, I am excited.
heartsick
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by starfish100:
“Hiya - I know - it is actually weird how he is going along with it all and joking and seems happy enough, it is just the focus on that one word.

I have decided I love the word bonkersness.

Any of your 4 suggestions are plausible and they are certainly keeping us guessing. I am now wondering if it is more that he knows he'll lose his Dad over it - I guess we can't see him reacting to the word Mum, so maybe it is all more about losing his family over it.

Told you I'd start to change my mind!

I think it's a mixture of not wanting to face the divorce, expecting them to fail and worrying about whether they will fail because of his past - and then will Christian be able to get over the disappointment, and losing his parents for good if they disapprove so strongly. A mish mash.”

Ah ha ha. I've got you in my power! The power of confusion!
TipsyTennant11
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by cooko94:
“i'm excited for some of it except the yusef bit which will probably be most of it and the Tanya and Max bits”

Ah I'm quite excited for the Yusef bits although he kinda annoys me and the whole thing with Denise and Zainab does too, chryed are going to be involved aren't they.. I don't know I don't like Yusef like what he does but I quite like the character The tanya and max bits.. I love affair story lines so I think I'll enjoy it but I do agree that those two shouldn't have yet another one!
TipsyTennant11
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by starfish100:
“Awww poor you. I was supposed to have chosen my last OU course today - haven't even been on the website yet.




I should learn my lesson, but yes, I am excited. ”

Same here
who me?
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by crazysusan:
“hi everyone.

this paper is doing my head in”

nasty rotten paper.
indiefran18
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by who me?:
“nasty rotten paper.”

I agree
starfish100
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by indiefran18:
“ Course you're not! You're lovely. I agree, there is a fine line and totally get why this annoys you. And I don't think anyone wants to turn Syed into a woman. It is a real issue in general though - and I don't think it's as simple as some gay men hating women. Why are gay men who 'bottom' seen (by some in the community) as less than a man? It's a slippery slope is all I'm saying (badly, probably).”

It is precisely that attitude I hate, that they are seen by some, (not all), as less of a man. I don't feel like this at all, and hate that logic.

In my opinion it does link back to a kind of misogynistic viewpoint, but it's such a complicated thing to explain I can't be bothered to get into it all.
heartsick
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by LovelyLaura:
“I was just watching the argument back......Johnny really does that kind of tipsy shouting petulant child thing so so well doesn't he?”

You know, this is what I have been thinking. Christian is, in many respects, the child of the relationship. Impulsive, blunt, demonstrative, cuddly. Syed is the adult, sensible, rational, controlled. Life will be fun after they adopt - Syed will, in the words of many others (usually women) have two children, not three.
elphaba7589
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by crazysusan:
“hi everyone.

this paper is doing my head in”

Hey hun Aaawwww Want to swap?? Maybe we'll have more success writing each others?!!

Originally Posted by TipsyTennant11:
“Is anyone else really excited for next week's eps?
Unfortunately I'm going to miss friday's one ”

I'm excited!!
crazysusan
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by who me?:
“nasty rotten paper.”

it is a very nasty rotton paper, or as i just called it a wotton paper.

thank you



and thank you Starfish too. Don't worry look at your site later



p.s I have a friend that waves/blows kisses at magpies, when we first met i keep looking for who she was waving and blowing kisses too, most perturbing, took weeks for me to ask her why she was doing it
TipsyTennant11
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by elphaba7589:
“Hey hun Aaawwww Want to swap?? Maybe we'll have more success writing each others?!!



I'm excited!! ”

YAAAY
indiefran18
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by starfish100:
“It is precisely that attitude I hate, that they are seen by some, (not all), as less of a man. I don't feel like this at all, and hate that logic.

In my opinion it does link back to a kind of misogynistic viewpoint, but it's such a complicated thing to explain I can't be bothered to get into it all. ”

Exactly how I feel

Originally Posted by heartsick:
“You know, this is what I have been thinking. Christian is, in many respects, the child of the relationship. Impulsive, blunt, demonstrative, cuddly. Syed is the adult, sensible, rational, controlled. Life will be fun after they adopt - Syed will, in the words of many others (usually women) have two children, not three.”

I love that description - and it's very true.
ChryedAreMyLife
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by TipsyTennant11:
“Is anyone else really excited for next week's eps?
Unfortunately I'm going to miss friday's one ”

I AM! although i don't know what's happening in them, have we had spoilers?
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