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I am so proud of them as it hasn't been easy by any stretch of the imagination. They work in the evenings making their products, they sell on ebay and go to the occasional craft fair to keep the money coming in. City centre rent isn't cheap.
Sometimes they think about the fact that they could earn more money working at McDonalds, but at least they are masters of their own fate. If two young sisters make a living by dint of application and imagination, and they enjoy the process more than working in the treadmill of McDonalds or bureaucratic Boots, then good luck to them. Some people prefer the protection of 9-to-5 with salary, others prefer harem-scarem out on a limb. These days even the salary option is not secure. To each her own. Many a family is kept together by the running of a family business. |
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This is what people like 'aussie_dave' just don't understand when they ask why people who are already running a business would want to win this competition.
If your daughters have a good product it could, nevertheless, take them years before they had built up enough operating capital to risk spending on things that would make their production or sales more efficient. An injection of cash and expertise could allow them to expand to a degree where the extra value of their share of the business would easily compensate for the proportion they exchanged with the investor for his or her input, Good luck to your daughters. I hope the continue to succeed. Last night after working in the shop all day they came home and had their dinner. Then followed two hours of jewellery making and one hour of tracking sales on ebay and parcelling up. Both of them ..... that's a further 6 hours work. Every week they watch The Apprentice and would love the opportunity being offered to these people. Some of whom are total muppets when it comes to business. |
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Haha, Ive seen her website, I've viewed the source. Trust me ....... giving her credit for the website part is not needed at all. Its blatantly obvious its done by a program ...
![]() Where's the link to *your* website, mr aussie? What's that, you don't have one? |
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Haha, Ive seen her website, I've viewed the source. Trust me ....... giving her credit for the website part is not needed at all. Its blatantly obvious its done by a program ... using tables to display non tabular data, big no no and the sort of thing that was used ..... oooh, about 10 years ago. I mean she's using non breaking spaces in Meta tags ..... why???
It works. When you can successfully develop a range of beauty products and market and sell and have done so them come back with your silly, pointless, gripes. Don't expect as much kudos as Susan, though because you've had several decades more to do it and you haven't. Quote:
And this is just the part Im an expert in ..... imagine if I knew about beauty products and took a close up look at her business, I bet I would find a lot of things shes claiming credit for that in reality she doesnt deserve. Your posts reek of the stench of jealousy and bitterness.I mean this beauty product, lets take one of her creams. On what scientific basis did she add some linseed oil or some tee tree oil to something because she knew it would help remove wrinkles. What is it in your life that causes you to need to spend hour upon hour spewing poison at a 21 year old girl who has never done you any harm? I'm beginning to feel really, really, sorry for you. Your life must be very sad for you to behave in this way.
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Haha, Ive seen her website, I've viewed the source. Trust me ....... giving her credit for the website part is not needed at all. Its blatantly obvious its done by a program ... using tables to display non tabular data, big no no and the sort of thing that was used ..... oooh, about 10 years ago. I mean she's using non breaking spaces in Meta tags ..... why???
And this is just the part Im an expert in ..... imagine if I knew about beauty products and took a close up look at her business, I bet I would find a lot of things shes claiming credit for that in reality she doesnt deserve. I mean this beauty product, lets take one of her creams. On what scientific basis did she add some linseed oil or some tee tree oil to something because she knew it would help remove wrinkles. The beauty industry is just one big fraud, and to give Susan credit for peddling something that she can't scientifically back is ridiculous. The only thing you can give her credit for is recognising how gullible a lot of women are. If you're saying that we shouldn't give credit to Susan's achievements because the very lucrative skin care industry she's chosen to be in is 'one big fraud' then there's just no point in debating this any more. But I'm interested to know one thing. If Susan were to set up a company in IT, just as you, would you then be mildly impressed? Or is it just that Susan is the person that you hate which makes you refuse to accept anything she's done as a positive. I feel that she could have excelled academically, helped her mum pay off her mortgage, buy her own investment property, start a business, get on the apprentice all at 21....and you still wouldn't be the slightest bit impressed..... oh wait... |
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Thank you
![]() I am so proud of them as it hasn't been easy by any stretch of the imagination. They work in the evenings making their products, they sell on ebay and go to the occasional craft fair to keep the money coming in. City centre rent isn't cheap. Sometimes they think about the fact that they could earn more money working at McDonalds, but at least they are masters of their own fate. This is why we all want Susan to truly be a mouse that roared tonight. She is a clever girl, just too quiet and lacking in conviction.
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The only thing you can give her credit for is recognising how gullible a lot of women are.
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'Done by a program' eh? Wow you're spoiling us with these techinical terms
![]() Where's the link to *your* website, mr aussie? What's that, you don't have one? Right now Im implementing new code for a retailer that is on every major high street in Britain because they are branching into a different area than they normally deal with. |
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Ok, I'll be honest, I know nothing about IT and didn't understand your first bit. All I know is that her website looks nice and her products looks appealing.
What you've already picked up on is all that matters and I agree with you. |
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Actually I don't have one. Its not required. However there is a 99% chance you've seen my work online. Ive worked on the websites for 4 high street retailers and have also worked on the National Lottery and BBC sites. And they are only the major ones
![]() IMHO you seem like a non-descript coding guy who doesn't have a clue about entrepreneurship or self-starting business. Never mind competing on the Apprentice, I doubt you have the skills to muster an audition video
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Yeah sure, all the best website designers don't even have a website themselves! Why would they?
![]() IMHO you seem like a non-descript coding guy who doesn't have a clue about entrepreneurship or self-starting business. Never mind competing on the Apprentice, I doubt you have the skills to muster an audition video ![]() 1) Im not a web designer. 2) The very fact that you assume that everyone in IT has their own website only highlights your own lack of intelligence on the subject. I suggest you find out more about the IT industry so you dont make a fool of yourself again. (heres a free clue, just for you - MOST contractors do NOT have their own website). 3) Im willing to bet Im earning more from my one contract than Susan is earning from her entire business. I dont see her claiming to be jetting back and forth each week between European countries. But then if I was earning f.. all from a small online business then I wouldnt be able to afford to either. |
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1) Im not a web designer.
2) The very fact that you assume that everyone in IT has their own website only highlights your own lack of intelligence on the subject. I suggest you find out more about the IT industry so you dont make a fool of yourself again. (heres a free clue, just for you - MOST contractors do NOT have their own website). 3) Im willing to bet Im earning more from my one contract than Susan is earning from her entire business. I dont see her claiming to be jetting back and forth each week between European countries. But then if I was earning f.. all from a small online business then I wouldnt be able to afford to either. You may not like Susan but her achievement in life so far has to be admired. Just because you think you earn more or have a bettter business model shouldn't cheapen her efforts. Plenty of 21 year olds out there couldn't string a coherent sentence together at an interview. I should know, I've met a few in my time. I hope Susan proves her value tonight ... you meanwhile need to get off your self made pedestal. |
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You do seem to have swallowed a rather bitter pill today.
You may not like Susan but her achievement in life so far has to be admired. Just because you think you earn more or have a bettter business model shouldn't cheapen her efforts. Plenty of 21 year olds out there couldn't string a coherent sentence together at an interview. I should know, I've met a few in my time. I hope Susan proves her value tonight ... you meanwhile need to get off your self made pedestal.
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1) Im not a web designer.
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I dont see her claiming to be jetting back and forth each week between European countries...
I'm sure Susan like you, and like me, and like everyone else with a job here, travels to wherever her job requires her to. |
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But what youre forgetting is the great view I have from my Ivory Tower
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My point exactly. You are not a risk-taking, creative entrepreneur. You just happen to do a technical job where you 'become' a ltd company for tax purposes. This is way, way easier that a creating a genuine business, which is what we were talking about.
Er, based on what you said your job requires you to travel to Germany, which you must do to fulfil your contract, otherwise it would be terminated. Suddenly you're portraying yourself as some jetsetter? Don't make me laugh. I'm sure Susan like you, and like me, and like everyone else with a job here, travels to wherever her job requires her to. And the fact that I deal with code somehow precludes me from having any creative or entreprenuial spirit ...... haha .... err ok, I'll try and think up of some other cliche that can match yours. We all know Bill Gates was well known for his flair in graphic design |
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1) Im not a web designer.
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2) The very fact that you assume that everyone in IT has their own website only highlights your own lack of intelligence on the subject. I suggest you find out more about the IT industry so you dont make a fool of yourself again. (heres a free clue, just for you - MOST contractors do NOT have their own website).
I think the point was that although you feel free to criticise Susan for some (pretty irrelevant) technical transgressions in an area in which she does not claim any particular expertise, you yourself have nothing to show for the expertise that you claim. In other words, for all we know (and it would certainly be consistent with your other posting here) your claims may be nothing but hot air.Quote:
3) Im willing to bet Im earning more from my one contract than Susan is earning from her entire business. I dont see her claiming to be jetting back and forth each week between European countries. But then if I was earning f.. all from a small online business then I wouldnt be able to afford to either.
Well, talk on a forum site is dirt cheap.And, to be quite honest, given your almost pathologically disrespectful attitude to women in general and Susan in particular, and your utter desperation to belittle her at every opportunity, I have very little confidence that anything you say is based to any great extent in truth. I'm always particularly suspicious of people who claim to be 'jetting' anywhere. It's decades since travelling short haul in a jet aircraft was in any way impressive and the fact that that fact doesn't seem to have impinged itself on your conciousness tells us a lot.
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Thank's be to the lord.
![]() I think the point was that although you feel free to criticise Susan for some (pretty irrelevant) technical transgressions in an area in which she does not claim any particular expertise, you yourself have nothing to show for the expertise that you claim. In other words, for all we know (and it would certainly be consistent with your other posting here) your claims may be nothing but hot air. Well, talk on a forum site is dirt cheap. And, to be quite honest, given your almost pathologically disrespectful attitude to women in general and Susan in particular, and your utter desperation to belittle her at every opportunity, I have very little confidence that anything you say is based to any great extent in truth. I'm always particularly suspicious of people who claim to be 'jetting' anywhere. It's decades since travelling short haul in a jet aircraft was in any way impressive and the fact that that fact doesn't seem to have impinged itself on your conciousness tells us a lot. ![]() Also I never ever used the word glamorous when describing jetting back and forth. So I think when doing your quotes you'll need to stick to what I say, not what YOU say. For the record I fly easyjet 90% of the 10 and BA 10% of the time. |
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Errr, OK, I'll find some random contractors site and just say its my own ..... would that prove it to you?
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Also I never ever used the word glamorous when describing jetting back and forth. So I think when doing your quotes you'll need to stick to what I say, not what YOU say.
I didn't mention the word 'glamourous' either. ![]() You did, however, clearly believe that it was something we should be impressed by which is, frankly, just a wee bit pathetic. Quote:
For the record I fly easyjet 90% of the 10 and BA 10% of the time.
Fascinating! How could we ever have got by without that vital piece of information. |
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Look at all the Suzy threads on this forum, it is clear that she is very polarizing (with people either loving her or hating her) and therefore popular.
I'm not a 'super fan' of Susan, but I do like her on the show and I dont think she does much wrong. |
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aussie dave, once a hater always a hater!
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