Corrie Spoilers: All You Need To Know

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madaboutcarla

15-12-2011

Astute is another. If he can prove Carla and Peter are sneaking around lying and having an affair, it certainly helps his case that they set him up. As does Peter lying to the police about her drink driving, if he brings that up.

Yeah, I suppose. But to be fair, neither Carla or Peter were sneaking around and having affair whilst him and Carla were dating. There was that one kiss, but he is unaware of that, and there certainly was no affair between Carla and Peter during their relationship.

k9fan

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by Tass B:
“Same and I hope this leads to Becky being happy again ”

I think that she will have a happy new beginning. I certainly like the actor who is her new admirer

dickronson

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by madaboutcarla:
“Astute is another. If he can prove Carla and Peter are sneaking around lying and having an affair, it certainly helps his case that they set him up. As does Peter lying to the police about her drink driving, if he brings that up.

Yeah, I suppose. But to be fair, neither Carla or Peter were sneaking around and having affair whilst him and Carla were dating. There was that one kiss, but he is unaware of that, and there certainly was no affair between Carla and Peter during their relationship.”

Er, not through lack of trying on Carlas part? She tried her best!

madaboutcarla

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by dickronson:
“Er, not through lack of trying on Carlas part? She tried her best!”

True. But no affair actually occurred is what I am saying.

Holz_

15-12-2011

Problem is, if Frank's investigator discovers their affair, no one is going to believe they weren't having an affair while Carla was still with Frank

Originally Posted by dickronson:
“Er, not through lack of trying on Carlas part? She tried her best!”

To be fair, she lay her cards on the table that time they kissed (although I agree her timing was awful) and, when Peter told her he wanted Leanne not her, she did back off and try to forget him. It was only really after the crash, when maybe Carla saw the controlling side of Frank, that she tried again and I think that a slightly unhinged act of desperation more than anything.

madaboutcarla

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by dickronson:
“Er, not through lack of trying on Carlas part? She tried her best!”

Originally Posted by Holz_:
“Problem is, if Frank's investigator discovers their affair, no one is going to believe they weren't having an affair while Carla was still with Frank

To be fair, she lay her cards on the table that time they kissed (although I agree her timing was awful) and, when Peter told her he wanted Leanne not her, she did back off and try to forget him. It was only really after the crash, when maybe Carla saw the controlling side of Frank, that she tried again and I think that a slightly unhinged act of desperation more than anything.”

Yeah, that episode IMO was actually really sad. She wasn't flinging herself onto him, her whole speech was really desperate and sad.

Holz_

15-12-2011

When Peter said "You're living in a fantasy land" I think he pretty much summed it up to be honest. In my opinion at least, she didn't really love Peter, at least not as much as she made out, but was kind of looking for a way out, reading into things and convincing herself that he loved her. It was like she wanted him to save her... If you watch that scene with everything that's happened since in mind, it's heartbreaking.

madaboutcarla

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by Holz_:
“When Peter said "You're living in a fantasy land" I think he pretty much summed it up to be honest. In my opinion at least, she didn't really love Peter, at least not as much as she made out, but was kind of looking for a way out, reading into things and convincing herself that he loved her. It was like she wanted him to save her... If you watch that scene with everything that's happened since in mind, it's heartbreaking.”

I know what you mean. Also, I don;t think Carla would want people to see her like that, she never lets her guard down that much, and reflecting on it, she must have have been in a messed up state.

I think now though, she genuinely does love Peter. I think he does too.. but in some way's it is clear to see with him.

Frockstar

15-12-2011

I liked watching the episode on Monday with Parla in it. I wonder if Leanne will finish with him when she finds out?

rayofsunshine

15-12-2011

Although nothing physical happened between the pair it could easily be argued they had an emotional affair.

I don't like the idea of anyone being a mistress and it saddens me that Carla has gone through that much to now consider being it - she never wanted to be the other woman with Liam, she doesn't suit it. The fact that she has to resort to having this affair to be happy is very sad, especially knowing its all gonna end in tears.

madaboutcarla

15-12-2011

Originally Posted by rayofsunshine:
“Although nothing physical happened between the pair it could easily be argued they had an emotional affair.

I don't like the idea of anyone being a mistress and it saddens me that Carla has gone through that much to now consider being it - she never wanted to be the other woman with Liam, she doesn't suit it. The fact that she has to resort to having this affair to be happy is very sad, especially knowing its all gonna end in tears.”

This is one of the reasons I am disappointed in Peter. I know he is having it hard too, and I don't hate him, I think he is a difficult position, but he should never have told Carla he loved her and wanted to spend the rest of his life with her unless he had the intention to actually leave Leanne, Carla is in a very vulnerable state, she has been suicidal and I think was trying her best to move on and just be supportive to Peter as a friend, despite the fact she loves him deeply, and now he has really got her hopes up and is in danger of causing her a lot of damage if he messes her around. (Although I do think he had full intention of leaving Leanne when he said it, but guilt overtook him when it came down to it)

boogie woogie

15-12-2011

I'm delighted to hear that the Paul and Eileen storyline is gonna run well into 2012. More screen time for the divine Sue Cleaver- woohoo!

rayofsunshine

16-12-2011

Couple of thoughts re Frank's trial based on some of the upcoming spoilers.

Apparently Anne tries to bribe Carla into dropping the charges with Frank's 40% shares, but Peter is hiding in the next room.

Surely, this would help Carla's case and could be used against Frank, and if Anne were to dispute it, Peter was there, so could back up Carla's story. Having said that, if Peter was there, questions would be asked, and that might fuel rumours they were having an affair PRE rape.

I suppose it would depend if Anne showed Carla any documents, or what happened next, but i wonder if the bribe would be a help or hindrance to Carla? And whether it would help in Frank being sent down? Although surely something greater would have to be discovered/occur to reall hammer it home so to speak.

MrsEBarlow

16-12-2011

I love Sue Cleaver but i think the Eileen/Paul storyline is becoming a bit tedious, it's raising an issue that is interesting to explore but why would Eileen take on that responsibility? I have so much sympathy for Paul and i'd love for Eileen to be happy but i can't see where this storyline could go.

With the spoiler about Frank's Mum I reckon Carla and Peter would be a bit hesitant to admit Peter was there.. Although it would show that Anne has doubts about her own son but with Frank's previous allegations of them having an affair couldn't he just use his annoyingly persuading charm to convince the court it's just Peter and Carla plotting against him? Peter is hardly a reputable witness for Carla in the eyes of the court.

Ahh, i so hope Frank gets what he deserves!

Thumbolina

16-12-2011

Originally Posted by rayofsunshine:
“Couple of thoughts re Frank's trial based on some of the upcoming spoilers.

Apparently Anne tries to bribe Carla into dropping the charges with Frank's 40% shares, but Peter is hiding in the next room.

Surely, this would help Carla's case and could be used against Frank, and if Anne were to dispute it, Peter was there, so could back up Carla's story. Having said that, if Peter was there, questions would be asked, and that might fuel rumours they were having an affair PRE rape.

I suppose it would depend if Anne showed Carla any documents, or what happened next, but i wonder if the bribe would be a help or hindrance to Carla? And whether it would help in Frank being sent down? Although surely something greater would have to be discovered/occur to reall hammer it home so to speak.”

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Holz_

16-12-2011

Originally Posted by Thumbolina:
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Surely if the spoiler that Frank is murdered is correct then this all becomes irrelevant ...

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Re Anne's bribe, I don't really see how Carla can use it against Frank... I mean in theory yes she could, but Frank and (I'm guessing) Anne know so much about her they could use (her being the one who hit Stella, for starters) that I don't know whether Carla would risk rocking the boat so to speak. Plus she can't really prove it, as I'm assuming she just goes over there and does it kind of informally at the flat.

rayofsunshine

16-12-2011

Well, they were filming the trial this week, and Andrew Lancel was filming today, so unless he is murdered during/after the trial.

I just thought that the fact Anne is making bribes must mean she doubts Frank, and that it wouldn't help his case, trying to bribe the victim into dropping the charges - implies he has something to hide.

But i admit bringing Peter into it would confirm suspicions, particularly if he was hiding in the bedroom!

dullagj2

20-12-2011

Monday 2 Jan.
7:30
Frank hosts a soiree at his house for business contacts, just as Carla plans to confront him about Anne's attempt to bribe her. Tina is accosted by a store detective while out shopping alone, and Jason joins Rosie on her latest modelling assignment. Dev is shocked to hear that Amber kissed Sophie, and Julie drags Eileen to a speed-dating night at the Bistro.

writer: Julie Jones

8:30
Frank is stunned when Carla gatecrashes the party, and as his business associates leave one by one, he turns to Sally for support. Tina accuses Kirsty of setting her up, and Sunita bears the brunt of Dev's anger after Amber's secret comes out. Paul arrives at Eileen's speed-dating evening when her suitor accidentally sets off a fire alarm, and Rosie starts her photoshoot with Jason.

writer: Mark Burt

Cast list for the week:

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kittykat30

20-12-2011

Well, now we know for sure Sian leaves on the 30th January, straight after the wedding is aborted. She's not listed for the next week. Sian must tell her to go to hell and leaves in a black cab. Or her mums car.The fact it all comes out the next episode tells you Sian must find out about Amber on the friday. Drama.

Carla turning up at Frank's do isn't going to help her rape case at all. It will make her look vindictive and hysterical. It won't look good when brought up in court. Oh Carla you are destroying your own case, first the affair with Peter, lying to your solicitor about it, and now making yourself look vindictive.

rayofsunshine

20-12-2011

I was just wondering, would Carla's suicide attempt support her case, in that it was the rape and his subsequent actions that made her want to end her life - everyone knows how strong Carla is, i know that in itself isn't evidence, but surely for Carla to be making it up, to commit suicide with such a hefty overdose would be taking it too far no?
I would be surprised if anyone could claim Carla was just doing it to "frame" Frank, to be honest, i would be shocked/saddened if anyone in this world tried to commit suicide to frame somebody else - allegedly.

rayofsunshine

21-12-2011

Originally Posted by rayofsunshine:
“I was just wondering, would Carla's suicide attempt support her case, in that it was the rape and his subsequent actions that made her want to end her life - everyone knows how strong Carla is, i know that in itself isn't evidence, but surely for Carla to be making it up, to commit suicide with such a hefty overdose would be taking it too far no?
I would be surprised if anyone could claim Carla was just doing it to "frame" Frank, to be honest, i would be shocked/saddened if anyone in this world tried to commit suicide to frame somebody else - allegedly.”

I have just realised that Frank himself doesn't know about the suicide attempt. If it was revealed in court - if Carla herself told her solicitor/lawyers - I wonder how frank and his team would react.

But do you think it will be brought up again or will we never hear of it from now on...?

k9fan

21-12-2011

The viewers may think that Carla is strong. The jury would not know how strong Carla is.

I don't think it was a hefty overdose - the viewers saw her up and about again very quickly; I think it was a cry for help.

yourfabulous

21-12-2011

Originally Posted by rayofsunshine:
“I have just realised that Frank himself doesn't know about the suicide attempt. If it was revealed in court - if Carla herself told her solicitor/lawyers - I wonder how frank and his team would react.

But do you think it will be brought up again or will we never hear of it from now on...?”

Good question. I think everything might come out in the trial. Frank would be shocked, not sure if we'd see any remorse from his side because all he cares about is being found not guilty, him and his lawyer would probably find a way to use it to their advantage. I would like to see how Anne and Sally would react though... I'm waiting to see - at least - a flicker of doubt in Anne's eyes.

What is Sally thinking though, hooking up with a rapist?! Even if she can't allow herself to believe Carla, what about Maria?
Sally must have doubts about Frank, and yet she starts a relationship with him. Outrageous in my opinion.

k9fan

21-12-2011

Originally Posted by yourfabulous:
“Good question. I think everything might come out in the trial. Frank would be shocked, not sure if we'd see any remorse from his side because all he cares about is being found not guilty, him and his lawyer would probably find a way to use it to their advantage. I would like to see how Anne and Sally would react though... I'm waiting to see - at least - a flicker of doubt in Anne's eyes.

What is Sally thinking though, hooking up with a rapist?! Even if she can't allow herself to believe Carla, what about Maria?
Sally must have doubts about Frank, and yet she starts a relationship with him. Outrageous in my opinion.”

His lawyer, using it to their advantage, could say that she had done it because her lover (Peter) would not leave his wife.

1ncognito

21-12-2011

Originally Posted by yourfabulous:
“What is Sally thinking though, hooking up with a rapist?! Even if she can't allow herself to believe Carla, what about Maria?
Sally must have doubts about Frank, and yet she starts a relationship with him. Outrageous in my opinion.”

Frank has not been convicted of anything so from Sallys point of view it is Carlas word against Franks.

Sally has always thought herself a cut above everyone else and Frank has played on that and has done an excellent job of casting himself as the victim of Carla's "lies" and Sally has been sucked right in.

The actress who plays Sally said in an interview that Frank is a powerful man and that is a real attraction to Sally.

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