Exactly.


I see your point. Although it's not just Carla's word against Frank, it's Maria's too. That's the part that makes me wonder...
I know Sally can be gullible, I just didn't realise that she could be as foolish as she clearly is though.

The problem is, Carla was always so scared of everyone finding out it that I don't think she'd bring it up with her solicitor. I mean from her perspective, she sees it as being weak and letting him win, and especially at the trial when she'll no doubt want to show Frank that he hasn't destroyed her, I don't think she'd want him to know. BUT I can possibly see Peter accidently letting it slip if he were to be called as a witness (which is actually quite possible), which could lead to a nice little pan shot of Frank, Sally, Anne and indeed Carla's reactions!


Frank's reaction would be interesting, I think. Let's not forget that for a time, Frank did genuinely love Carla, and so as much as he hates her for reporting him etc, I think the relics of those feelings are probably still there somewhere. I dunno, depends how much of the Frank we saw during his relationship with Carla was a complete front.
And I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering about Maria. When Sally found out Frank had tried it on with Maria, she immediately sided with her over Carla, and was stunned that Carla would go into business, and into a relationship, with him knowing what he'd done. And yet here she is mere weeks later doing the exact same thing?! Even if she's convinced herself that Carla is a scheming liar, what reason does she have to doubt Maria?

I really hope that when this is all over and Sally finally sees Frank for what he is, we get a scene with her apologising to Carla. I think Carla would probably actually be fairly understanding, especially if Sally told her she did whatever he's going to do to her. I think it could turn into a lovely little scene and could maybe put Sally in a better light for once. But that's probably just me!

This shows how much Sally is not what you would call a woman's woman, the thought of having a bloke, who owns a factory, and being seen as going up in the world is far more important to her, than the sister hood, Carla who? Maria whose that? she'd be saying, lol

Carla is a scheming liar, she just happens to be telling the truth about the rape. That's about all though.

Fingers crossed for that!


Carla could easily be accused of lying. But the only one who's doing any 'scheming' is Frank (the rapist). Actually, him and mother dearest.

Hardly Carla is a scheming liar.

The whole personality card isn't strong evidence certainly, although surely her workforce could vouch for franks effect on her - particularly when Sean and Maria came into the factory to find Carla on the floor and frank standing over her.

As for the overdose, do you think it was a cry for help? I always thought she genuinely wanted to end it all, I didn't think cry for helps was Carla's style - suicide isn't her style either but I always believed she had had enough and didn't see any other way to stop hurting which is sad

As a matter of fact I think it's been a bit too glossed over. I would be concerned about Carla's state of mind, given that she wanted to end her life a couple of months ago and the pressures that hang over her with the trial, the character really is putting on a very brave face, it's practically been forgotten that she was at deaths door, although I guess in part that's down to the character not wanting anyone to know.

Do we think she told michelle about the suicide or let that one slide? I don't think she did.


I suppose the lawyer, arguing that this was all a set up by Carla and Peter could suggest that when Peter showed signs of going back to his wife, Carla resorted to desperate tactics. It would be very interesting though to see how they would react on hearing it and whether it would momentarily floor them.


I definitely agree that Carla wouldn't tell anyone, including her solicitor, it's something she wouldn't want to bring back up both because of her pride/seeing it as a weakness and also going through all the motions again.

I do hope it is brought up in the trial - I like your suggestion about Peter dropping it in - and the impact it would have on the case. It's such a huge thing that to not bring it up would be silly in my eyes.

As for Sally, Carla would be kind to her, particularly if frank did something to her. Carla knows at the end of the day that Sally isn't the criminal and Carla too was taken in by frank and took his side, so there is some understanding of Sally's actions, te only difference being Sally deliberately and almost vindictively doubting Carla and taunting her. It would be so interesting seeing Sally humble and realise Carla was right all along, it's always good seeing Sally eat her words!

Not sure if these have already been posted:

thanks

also these from all about soap:

Thu. 5 Jan.
Tommy and Maria have a go at Tyrone while Peter spins Leanne another lie. Frank apologises for trying to snog Sally and Eileen lays her heart on the line.

Fri. 6 Jan.
7:30
Carla and Peter start looking for a secret love nest while Rita falls victim to Kirsty's scheming and Beth tells Kevin that she saw Sally kissing Frank.

8:30
Kevin confronts Sally but she refuses to apologise. Rita is rattled after her brush with the law and Stella starts to smell a rat about Parla.....

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This has probably been said already but........
I think Frank will definetly be found NOT guilty probably because of Peter , he'll then try to rape Sally.............then murdered
this would leave a host of suspects but from the suspect list, I can't see Corrie gettting rid of any of them and I think it'd ruin their characters if they were found to be the murderer.....

Frank's dad??, he has done a disappearing act suggesting that he isn't on his son's side.

but then again look at Tracy Barlow

Tracy went to prison and served a sentence equivalent to manslaughter. She didn't get off with killing Charlie, she served two years (which is common for involuntary manslaughter, they only serve half the sentence). Whoever kills Frank, if they do, will have to serve prison time. Which is why I don't believe it will be a proper character. More likely one of Frank's parents, as they are expendable.

As for Kirsty, why is she picking on Rita? evil little cow. Save it for Tina, she can take care of herself.

Totally agree about the cry for help thing. If it was, surely she'd have phoned Peter a lot sooner than she did, or not taken the whole bottle? From what the paramedics said at her flat ("I found a pulse but it's very weak" etc) it was pretty touch and go and I personally don't think it was a cry for help at all. I know Carla wasn't exactly thinking straight, but one thing she doesn't do is attention-seeking. The mere fact that she didn't want anyone to know suggests to me it was a serious attempt that she later regretted. It worried me that the only reason she seemed to regret it was because it "let him win". I honestly think she's living to see him get sent down now, and I worry what will happen if he gets off.

I think to be honest part of the reason it was glossed over was because at the end of the day it's a family-friendly soap that goes out at 7:30, so there was a limit to what they could show. And I suppose they didn't want to be seen to be glamorising it or anything like that. I think we can imagine what happened in between the scenes we saw and I'm sure it wasn't pleasant.

Theres a spolier on the main site now that says Frank gets off after a private investigator shows a jury of Peter and Carla kissing, after she lies about their affair. Leanne then screams out that "Carla's a liar", so I'm guessing this must be how LeAnne finds out? And not through Stella after all.

Well, it was obvious this would happen. Carla ruined her own case, Frank just takes advantage of her mistakes.

Absolutely; just think of all the repercussions after the trial. Poor Leanne.

They have been dismantling Carla's case for weeks. The viewer can't say this is a shock. Her solicitor warned her about lies, and she chose to continue to lie about Peter. So, she brought this trouble on herself. Not the rape, but the aftermath. Frank is cleverer than her, and calmer. He was always likely to win, especially as the evidence was so flimsy anyway.

I actually didn't think he would of got off. Just my opinion, but I have my reasons. Anyways, Carla didn't tell the truth about Peter because she knew Frank would get off, on account that Frank was claiming her & Peter were having an affair while Frank/Carla were together. It's not as if Carla knew Frank were to hire a private investigator to spy on her and Peter during the course of their affair. I mean if I were in this situation, i would have done the same myself. IMO Carla did not [/b] bring the trouble on herself.

Regarding your last line, rape is a very hard case to find the person accused guilty. It would be hard to get evidence, and I know what I'm talking about..

Carla did bring this on herself. She said herself the affair would look bad if it came out, and they should probably stop it. She didn't, and she lied to her solicitor. I have zero sympathy she gets caught out being a liar and cheater. I do hate Frank gets away with rape, but she helped give him the tools to do it.

She should have been more careful. She should have considered everything before she started the affair, and she should have been honest with her solicitor. If she'd done that he may not have gotten off. But even then the evidence was flimsy. It was a drunks word against a respectable business man, who do you think a jury is likely to believe? it's not fair at all. But it's why so many cases collapse, because the rapist comes off as the respectable one. People go with shallow impressions.

Frank deserves to be murdered. And Carla deserved justice. But she is in the wrong over Peter here, so she's getting payback, it's just tragic that payback means Frank gets off

Wouldn't the forensics count for anything? We saw the paramedics carrying out rape tests on Carla and she was bruised. Surely that would count against him?

I'm more interested to see how Becky steals Tracy's medical records....or if she does.

She gets a lesson from Gail, she knows all about stealing medical records.

I wonder why Week 3 spoilers haven't been released yet

Because the weeks around Christmas are released early. This ends at week 2, so that means week 3 spoilers will be 2 weeks before the episodes air

Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation lol.

Will they have anything on it though? She wasn't there, she was at the hospital