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How big is the Tardis?
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tingramretro
19-06-2011
Originally Posted by pajs1000:
“Long live the Hartnell party!”

I'm glad to see we're on the same wavelength, hmm?
MinkytheDog
19-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“What happens if there are several people in different areas of the TARDIS at the same time, though?”

I was giving a simplified example - it works just the same with ten people - or a thousand. The point is that you can't measure the Tardis because it's always going to be relative to the individual observer.

That doesn't preclude the possibility of some sort of limitation - even the universe itself is finite. What it does mean is that it's not possible to measure it in three-dimensional terms. In 4th dimensional maths, you have to specify WHEN as well as where - you can only say that the Tardis had a certain volume at a certain time - that measurement can and will be wrong a second later.

That's my theory

Originally Posted by pajs1000:
“Thanks. But what happens if the train/ TARDIS, goes into reverse mode?”

I don't get you. In terms of the train, you'd just move the track from the front to the back. Not sure how a Tardis goes "into reverse mode". If you mean walking back out the room into the one you previously left, it can just be recreated if necessary.
sandydune
19-06-2011
The tardis is as large as you perceive it to be. We have only seen a small amount so we see that but if we went through the back entrance, where would that lead us?

There must be a back entrance as most places have them.
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“The tardis is as large as you perceive it to be. We have only seen a small amount so we see that but if we went through the back entrance, where would that lead us?

There must be a back entrance as most places have them.”

There is a back entrance (or rather, exit), seen in a second Doctor story (The Invasion IIRC, but I haven't had my coffee yet), It leads into the interior of the TARDIS's Police Box shell.
MinkytheDog
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“The tardis is as large as you perceive it to be. We have only seen a small amount so we see that but if we went through the back entrance, where would that lead us?”

Narnia.
paulschapman
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by pajs1000:
“Just how big is the Tardis on the inside? No "Bigger than on the outside" please! I have seen some fan made blueprints that show it to be the size of a small city! Is there any canon that tells or shows the true internal dimensions?”

I'm not sure there is an answer. Since the size is not restricted to the bounds of whatever it is pretending to be then I suppose infinite.
neel
20-06-2011
Its one of those questions you could easily go round and round in circles with.

Surely the best plan is just to go with the answer "depends how you look at it".

MinkytheDog
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by neel:
“Surely the best plan is just to go with the answer "depends how you look at it".
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That's pretty much the text-book definition of "relative".
SciFiGuy_UK
20-06-2011
Maybe it depends how far into the other or micro universe the tardis is capable of opening into... May it one day be explained. Or not, as I like a bit of mystery too! Small city will do for now
wildbill_hicock
20-06-2011
I don't know about small city, maybe a cruise liner. Looking to some experts on this kind of thing, have we been given descriptions of the size/mass of the TARDIS in the classic series, the novels and the audio plays?
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by wildbill_hicock:
“I don't know about small city, maybe a cruise liner. Looking to some experts on this kind of thing, have we been given descriptions of the size/mass of the TARDIS in the classic series, the novels and the audio plays?”

Nope, we've been shown a lot of it and told it's huge, but no actual measurements have ever been given. I don't think the question of mass really enters into it, since that would be calculated in relation to something else and as far as we know the TARDIS exists in its own space-its interior mass shouldn't have any effect on anything outside it as it isn't in the same dimension, so it would weigh only as much as the Police Box shell weighs.
redrooster555
20-06-2011
It's a similar anomaly to the Star Trek: The Next Generation one about the hologram room. Despite it looking around the size of a squash court when it's not in use, people inside it whilst it's recreating a city can be miles apart without walking into invisible walls.
wildbill_hicock
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Nope, we've been shown a lot of it and told it's huge, but no actual measurements have ever been given. I don't think the question of mass really enters into it, since that would be calculated in relation to something else and as far as we know the TARDIS exists in its own space-its interior mass shouldn't have any effect on anything outside it as it isn't in the same dimension, so it would weigh only as much as the Police Box shell weighs.”

Thanks Ting, knew you could be relied on. What kind of size are we talking? City sized? That being the case, you could feasibly set a whole series in there!
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