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Old 19-06-2011, 18:53
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We were all telling him to stop on MSN, and guiding him, but he just kept doing the opposite of what we said, Lord Sugar, sir.
So did you all gang up on him ? make him defensive or did your Pm take control and have a word politely as should be done in normal business practise No ?
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:53
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Tyjet I will admit it seems you did a lot, but it seems you almost took over the task from Black Dagger, almost had control more than him, do you think that's a fair comment?
I don't think I took over, no. Black Dagger is the person who had the final decision over everything and I never did anything without his say so, I ran the pitch by him several times for his approval. The only thing I took it upon myself to do was ask poth to make an ad as he didn't have anything to do at that point and Black Dagger was unavailable.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:54
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But, as you said, you gave up trying. At the end of the day, this is a task to win, I'm not excusing Poth in the slightest for this, but you still could have simply responded to the questions more too and try and help people see easier if you feel Poth isn't doing the correct job.
Yes, I will put my hands up at admit to this, but you rally have to work with a boy who tells you to F Off at every word you say to understand how it feels. I have no excuse for not responding I am afraid, though. I feel that I can capitalize on these mistakes, and improves every aspect though.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:55
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Well I do think Poth tried hard (he apparently did 15 logos) but I question how relevant all that is. I do think he caused A LOT of disruption and I think he struggles in these team situations.

However I think there were many other issues. I have had reports of Tyjet being rude and abrupt, BD and Louise being missing (one person said she didn't turn up once, and as she didn't reply to me I only have Tyjet's word she helped him), and I don't really see what Robbie, Louise or BD did towards the thread specifically.

But, there has been that much tit for tat that I don't know what is true and what isn't.

Thanks Peter, definitely agree with you on a lot of this.

I can see Poth has been a massive disruption and quite frankly I don't care if he had personal problems with you guys etc, stop complaining about the task and get on with it, I'm not here to listen to whining when you know what you have signed up for..
But I have honestly heard a lot that quite frankly,. I have a reason to fire every single one of you on this team right now.

To all of you, and I think I know the answer, but who should be fired?
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:55
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So did you all gang up on him ? make him defensive or did your Pm take control and have a word politely as should be done in normal business practise No ?
We all tried to talk with him politely, but he was causing an uproar as he felt he was being treated unfairly. We still tried to work things out with him, but being nice to him seemed to be going nowhere.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:56
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So did you all gang up on him ? make him defensive or did your Pm take control and have a word politely as should be done in normal business practise No ?
I actually had a quiet word with Poth myself, he was visibly upset and he wanted to talk to me in private and he said he wanted to 'quit' the show at one point so I told him that wouldn't be a wise thing to do so I feel I helped him more then 'ganging' up on him to be fair with you.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:56
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I don't think I took over, no. Black Dagger is the person who had the final decision over everything and I never did anything without his say so, I ran the pitch by him several times for his approval. The only thing I took it upon myself to do was ask poth to make an ad as he didn't have anything to do at that point and Black Dagger was unavailable.
I think its a fair point that someone can only take over if someone else isnt doing their job correctly ............

You seemed if nothing else to know what you were talking about in the thread yesterday the only one in my opinion.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:58
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Thanks Peter, definitely agree with you on a lot of this.

I can see Poth has been a massive disruption and quite frankly I don't care if he had personal problems with you guys etc, stop complaining about the task and get on with it, I'm not here to listen to whining when you know what you have signed up for..
But I have honestly heard a lot that quite frankly,. I have a reason to fire every single one of you on this team right now.

To all of you, and I think I know the answer, but who should be fired?
I think it comes to no surprise to you Lord Sugar but I genuinely feel Pothuthic should be fired, if he can't be controlled in the simplest of manners and wants to quit because he feels the other team members were rude to him then I don't know what he is doing in a show like this.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:58
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I actually had a quiet word with Poth myself, he was visibly upset and he wanted to talk to me in private and he said he wanted to 'quit' the show at one point so I told him that wouldn't be a wise thing to do so I feel I helped him more then 'ganging' up on him to be fair with you.
In BD's defence, though Poth criticised the team as a whole, he praised BD highly as a PM.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:59
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Thanks Peter, definitely agree with you on a lot of this.

I can see Poth has been a massive disruption and quite frankly I don't care if he had personal problems with you guys etc, stop complaining about the task and get on with it, I'm not here to listen to whining when you know what you have signed up for..
But I have honestly heard a lot that quite frankly,. I have a reason to fire every single one of you on this team right now.

To all of you, and I think I know the answer, but who should be fired?
Pothuthic. I believe that we need not repeat ourselves as to why. Yes, he made 11 logos, but all he did was slightly change the font. I don't believe we can work with someone who refuses to work with US, someone who disrupts the process, someone who constantly insults us...
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:59
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We all tried to talk with him politely, but he was causing an uproar as he felt he was being treated unfairly. We still tried to work things out with him, but being nice to him seemed to be going nowhere.
Robbie the word all suggests more than one to me that isnt a good sign as it would be more credible if the Pm and only the pm said his bit. If nothing changed then the pm could forward the pm he sent and explaining the situation. would make it a lot less tit for tat.... Perhaps whoever stays will take this on board.
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Old 19-06-2011, 18:59
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To all of you, and I think I know the answer, but who should be fired?
Based on his behaviour and how little he contributed, I feel pothuthic should be fired.

(I know he came up with the logo, but both he and robbie were working on logos and it just happened to be one of poth's that we went with)
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:01
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Robbie the word all suggests more than one to me that isnt a good sign as it would be more credible if the Pm and only the pm said his bit. If nothing changed then the pm could forward the pm he sent and explaining the situation. would make it a lot less tit for tat.... Perhaps whoever stays will take this on board.
I agree.

Now, I have heard a lot from you guys, and so I would like to also address one person who hasn't been mentioned here and that's Strcitly_Irish, between all the talk of the others I'd like to know how people felt she did on the task?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:02
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I actually had a quiet word with Poth myself, he was visibly upset and he wanted to talk to me in private and he said he wanted to 'quit' the show at one point so I told him that wouldn't be a wise thing to do so I feel I helped him more then 'ganging' up on him to be fair with you.
I get that and appearantly you did a good job, Poth liked that. However failure to controll the rest of your team from adding there two cents No ? if you did try tell us how and what response you got, why was everyone chipping in if you said not to ? Or did you say nothing ?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:02
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Based on his behaviour and how little he contributed, I feel pothuthic should be fired.

(I know he came up with the logo, but both he and robbie were working on logos and it just happened to be one of poth's that we went with)
Behaviour yes, but did he contribute any less than Robbie or Louise (who we still have no evidence of being here?)?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:04
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I agree.

Now, I have heard a lot from you guys, and so I would like to also address one person who hasn't been mentioned here and that's Strcitly_Irish, between all the talk of the others I'd like to know how people felt she did on the task?
I have no evidence of her being here, so I have no clue. But I believe she has been having some family issues.
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:04
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Behaviour yes, but did he contribute any less than Robbie or Louise (who we still have no evidence of being here?)?
Honestly, no. Robbie and poth's contribution was pretty much equal. Louise did contribute less, but she's not been around for much of the task at all (although I don't know why, I heard it was family problems, but I could be wrong).
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:04
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I get that and appearantly you did a good job, Poth liked that. However failure to controll the rest of your team from adding there two cents No ? if you did try tell us how and what response you got, why was everyone chipping in if you said not to ? Or did you say nothing ?
I do feel I was able to control my team extremely well, I made sure everybody was on task... at one point Poth was giving extremely silly names for our team name and I told him we had to be professional and he soon decided to chip in... when Poth was upset later the evening I calmed him down and he said I was a good PM and I'd done the best I could... I definitely did my fair share in this task even if it was mainly getting everybody to do what I asked.
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:05
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I agree.

Now, I have heard a lot from you guys, and so I would like to also address one person who hasn't been mentioned here and that's Strcitly_Irish, between all the talk of the others I'd like to know how people felt she did on the task?
As Poth isn't here I will tell you he informed me that she didn't show up once. We know about Friday so I accept that, and Tyjet told me that she helped him with the pitch on Saturday (I assume in a different msn convo to the others).

But, the pitch was 2 paragraphs long, was that REALLY a 2 person job or is he covering for her?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:06
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I understand Louise was having some problems and it is always difficult to comment on that if stuff far more important than this comes up.

Robbie, as it seems you have not done a lot for the team either? Of course, you seem to have been far more getting along with the team, but there doesn't seem to have been very much you did AND you admitted you gave up yesterday?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:07
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Honestly, no. Robbie and poth's contribution was pretty much equal. Louise did contribute less, but she's not been around for much of the task at all (although I don't know why, I heard it was family problems, but I could be wrong).
I tend to disagree. While Poth made 11 different logos, 10 of which he just changed the font, I made 4 up from scratch, which were completely different, and also suggested changing the basic idea of the game. I also gave my opinion on every little idea, and like I said, contributed to every apart from the pitch, which Tyjet seemed to be working on himself.
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:07
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As Poth isn't here I will tell you he informed me that she didn't show up once. We know about Friday so I accept that, and Tyjet told me that she helped him with the pitch on Saturday (I assume in a different msn convo to the others).

But, the pitch was 2 paragraphs long, was that REALLY a 2 person job or is he covering for her?
I don't know why he'd need to cover for her, yes she was absent on Friday you all know about that but she did the best she could for the little time, she didn't help Tyjet loads at all but when she was here she was committed to her task.
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:07
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Honestly, no. Robbie and poth's contribution was pretty much equal. Louise did contribute less, but she's not been around for much of the task at all (although I don't know why, I heard it was family problems, but I could be wrong).
She told us about Friday and family problems, so we said this wouldn't go against her. However you told me in your update she was helping you Saturday, did she or not?
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:07
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As Poth isn't here I will tell you he informed me that she didn't show up once. We know about Friday so I accept that, and Tyjet told me that she helped him with the pitch on Saturday (I assume in a different msn convo to the others).

But, the pitch was 2 paragraphs long, was that REALLY a 2 person job or is he covering for her?
Louise was online yesterday afternoon when no one else on the team was around, so it was just us.

As for how much she helped, no she didn't help me much with the pitch, I was just trying to give credit where it's due. She did come up with the name of our game though.
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Old 19-06-2011, 19:07
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As Poth isn't here I will tell you he informed me that she didn't show up once. We know about Friday so I accept that, and Tyjet told me that she helped him with the pitch on Saturday (I assume in a different msn convo to the others).

But, the pitch was 2 paragraphs long, was that REALLY a 2 person job or is he covering for her?
Hmm that's true, very true

In regards to the pitch guys, the other teams one was thoroughly detailed, informative and really thought out.

I came to look at yours and my first thought was 'Is that it?'

Forgetting all this Poth thing, I mean, do you not think more should have been done?
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