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liam58
20-06-2011
Forums may have already said this but

before the doctor and Amy get in the tardis at the end the doctor says:

Some we've forgotten or rather you have.
You didnt know them Amy.
You've never seen them before and you should of done.
You Should.

Any Ideas what this could mean?
Redneck Rounder
20-06-2011
simple planets in the sky everybody on earth should of witnessed it.
liam58
20-06-2011
i know that but does this mean that the amy is more than she seems
Redneck Rounder
20-06-2011
might be, she has always had something missing about her.
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by liam58:
“Forums may have already said this but

before the doctor and Amy get in the tardis at the end the doctor says:

Some we've forgotten or rather you have.
You didnt know them Amy.
You've never seen them before and you should of done.
You Should.

Any Ideas what this could mean?”

Actually, he says "you should have done". Because "should of" makes no grammatical sense.

Originally Posted by Redneck Rounder:
“simple planets in the sky everybody on earth should of witnessed it.”

Yes, everybody on Earth should have witnessed it. But Amy didn't remember it because the Dalek invasion had been erased from history by the cracks at that point in time. That was kind of the point.

There were several threads about this last year.
LivingDestiny
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Actually, he says "you should have done". Because "should of" makes no grammatical sense.


Yes, everybody on Earth should have witnessed it. But Amy didn't remember it because the Dalek invasion had been erased from history by the cracks at that point in time. That was kind of the point.

There were several threads about this last year.”

Really appreciate what you're doing but i don't think anyone cares about grammar. Stop playing the teacher.
Granny McSmith
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by LivingDestiny:
“Really appreciate what you're doing but i don't think anyone cares about grammar. Stop playing the teacher.”

I'm afraid you are wrong. Quite a lot of people care very much about grammar. More than they care about Doctor Who, even.

And the use of the phrase "should of/would of" etc is extremely annoying to such people.

Hasn't anyone who uses that phrase instead of the correct form ever read anything? Did they sleep through English lessons at school?

I am not a teacher, btw.
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by LivingDestiny:
“Really appreciate what you're doing but i don't think anyone cares about grammar. Stop playing the teacher.”

I care about grammar.

Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“I'm afraid you are wrong. Quite a lot of people care very much about grammar. More than they care about Doctor Who, even.

And the use of the phrase "should of/would of" etc is extremely annoying to such people.

Hasn't anyone who uses that phrase instead of the correct form ever read anything? Did they sleep through English lessons at school?

I am not a teacher, btw.”

Which is teaching's loss, frankly. I don't know what they're paid for these days' but teaching English certainly doesn't seem to be part of it.
Redneck Rounder
20-06-2011
my school never tought punctuation to me, I had to learn it quite recently, thats how bad education these days is slipping.
Granny McSmith
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“I care about grammar.

Which is teaching's loss, frankly. I don't know what they're paid for these days' but teaching English certainly doesn't seem to be part of it.”

I love the grammar. It's the kids I couldnt stand.
johnnysaucepn
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Yes, everybody on Earth should have witnessed it. But Amy didn't remember it because the Dalek invasion had been erased from history by the cracks at that point in time. That was kind of the point.”

Yep, this was the Doctor being tipped off that things were disappearing from space and time.
MinkytheDog
20-06-2011
I like grammar - she always gives me Werther's
DB5
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Actually, he says "you should have done". Because "should of" makes no grammatical sense.”

Quite. I think the ghastly "should of" has eclipsed "different to" as my own private Hell.
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by DB5:
“Quite. I think the ghastly "should of" has eclipsed "different to" as my own private Hell.”

Though that is also very annoying.
SillyBillyGoat
20-06-2011
I passed my English exams with flying colours, but I won't go rushing to correct everybody who makes a mistake on a forum. It's slightly snobby, at the very least.
DB5
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I passed my English exams with flying colours, but I won't go rushing to correct everybody who makes a mistake on a forum. It's slightly snobby, at the very least.”

If having standards makes one a snob, I'm more than happy to be one.
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by DB5:
“If having standards makes one a snob, I'm more than happy to be one.”

Likewise. Earl Grey, DB5?
liam58
20-06-2011
how come all forums go off in another direction
smudges dad
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by LivingDestiny:
“Really appreciate what you're doing but i don't think anyone cares about grammar. Stop playing the teacher.”

I care as well. However, this isn't grammar, it's just using the wrong word, like saying elephant instead of Tardis.
smudges dad
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by Redneck Rounder:
“my school never tought punctuation to me, I had to learn it quite recently, thats how bad education these days is slipping.”

Brilliant
tingramretro
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by liam58:
“how come all forums go off in another direction”

I don't know, but to slip into PG Wodehouse mode, I think it's just Capital-full stop.

Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“I care as well. However, this isn't grammar, it's just using the wrong word, like saying elephant instead of Tardis.”

Actually, it's mistaking a conflation of two words-'should' and 'have'-for a nonsense phrase comprised of two separate words.
nattoyaki
20-06-2011
'Could/would/should of' is surely one of the most understandable slips in written English, simply because 'could've' is pronounced exactly the same as 'could of'.

Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“
Which is teaching's loss, frankly. I don't know what they're paid for these days' but teaching English certainly doesn't seem to be part of it.”

It cracks me up that people who correct others on the internet inevitably make some sort of slip themselves in the same thread. In this case it's 'just' a stray apostrophe, but, still, it makes the sentence completely nonsensical. No doubt I'll have made a slip myself in this post, thereby completing the circle

Originally Posted by DB5:
“Quite. I think the ghastly "should of" has eclipsed "different to" as my own private Hell.”

Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Though that is also very annoying.”

Perhaps you should both brush up on accepted English usage - 'different to' is completely acceptable in British English, and as far as I know always has been. Fowler’s Modern English Usage (Oxford University Press) would be your best bet.

Brace yourselves before you read it though - Wikipedia is quite correct that Fowler 'opposed all pedantry, and notably ridiculed artificial grammar rules not warranted by natural English usage'.
nattoyaki
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Actually, it's mistaking a conflation of two words-'should' and 'have'-for a nonsense phrase comprised of two separate words.”

It's not a 'conflation' at all, it's a 'contraction'. Basic English grammar...
Granny McSmith
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“'Could/would/should of' is surely one of the most understandable slips in written English, simply because 'could've' is pronounced exactly the same as 'could of'.

Perhaps you should both brush up on accepted English usage - 'different to' is completely acceptable in British English, and as far as I know always has been. Fowler’s Modern English Usage (Oxford University Press) would be your best bet.
.”

Written English is not the same as spoken English.

"Different to" was not acceptable when I was learning English grammar. Perhaps standards have relaxed since then?
WelshNige
20-06-2011
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Actually, he says "you should have done". Because "should of" makes no grammatical sense.
”

From DS's forum rules:-

Quote:
“Commenting on spelling/grammar

Unconstructive posts commenting on the spelling and/or grammar of another user's post will not be tolerated. We ask that users make the effort to communicate clearly and, so long as posts are understandable, there should be no problem. ”

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