Yes, quite a few people make grammatical errors, but I would say that the standard of English to be found on the Doctor Who forum is generally superior to that found on some of the other DS forums I visit.
Victory of the Daleks
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Originally Posted by liam58:
“how come all forums go off in another direction”
“how come all forums go off in another direction”
It's cos they're bigger on the inside.
Originally Posted by DB5:
“If having standards makes one a snob, I'm more than happy to be one.”
“If having standards makes one a snob, I'm more than happy to be one.”
Having standards for your own writing is fine. Applying those standards to the writing of others - especially outside of professional environments - isn't really necessary.
Originally Posted by wildbill_hicock:
“Having standards for your own writing is fine. Applying those standards to the writing of others - especially outside of professional environments - isn't really necessary.”
“Having standards for your own writing is fine. Applying those standards to the writing of others - especially outside of professional environments - isn't really necessary.”
Actually, if I were to make a grammatical, or indeed any other sort of error, and someone pointed out to me where I was going wrong I would be grateful to them for doing so, so that I could get it right in future.
I wouldn't reply with a statement like "No-one cares about grammar" which is patently nonsensical. If no-one cared about grammar how would we ever communicate effectively?
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Actually, if I were to make a grammatical, or indeed any other sort of error, and someone pointed out to me where I was going wrong I would be grateful to them for doing so, so that I could get it right in future.
I wouldn't reply with a statement like "No-one cares about grammar" which is patently nonsensical. If no-one cared about grammar how would we ever communicate effectively?”
“Actually, if I were to make a grammatical, or indeed any other sort of error, and someone pointed out to me where I was going wrong I would be grateful to them for doing so, so that I could get it right in future.
I wouldn't reply with a statement like "No-one cares about grammar" which is patently nonsensical. If no-one cared about grammar how would we ever communicate effectively?”
That's you Granny. I know plenty of people who don't respond quite so well to having their grammatical errors and spelling mistakes minutely corrected, especially when it contributes absolutely nothing to the discourse. I'm all for effective communication, but pulling people up on relatively small lapses - that have no impact on our ability to understand the point of a post - doesn't really seem like the most effective use of anybodies energies. Particularly if it's going to repetitively derail threads as spectacularly as it has here.
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Actually, if I were to make a grammatical, or indeed any other sort of error, and someone pointed out to me where I was going wrong I would be grateful to them for doing so, so that I could get it right in future.
I wouldn't reply with a statement like "No-one cares about grammar" which is patently nonsensical. If no-one cared about grammar how would we ever communicate effectively?”
“Actually, if I were to make a grammatical, or indeed any other sort of error, and someone pointed out to me where I was going wrong I would be grateful to them for doing so, so that I could get it right in future.
I wouldn't reply with a statement like "No-one cares about grammar" which is patently nonsensical. If no-one cared about grammar how would we ever communicate effectively?”
*wades in to make Granny grateful*
I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.
My personal bugbear is the use of 'where' for 'were' or there/their/they're incorrectly. But then I'm an English teacher so shoot me!
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
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Yes, everybody on Earth should have witnessed it. But Amy didn't remember it because the Dalek invasion had been erased from history by the cracks at that point in time. That was kind of the point.
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Yes, everybody on Earth should have witnessed it. But Amy didn't remember it because the Dalek invasion had been erased from history by the cracks at that point in time. That was kind of the point.
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Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Yep, this was the Doctor being tipped off that things were disappearing from space and time.”
“Yep, this was the Doctor being tipped off that things were disappearing from space and time.”
Putting the thread back on the rails, this is why Amy didn't remember the Daleks.
Originally Posted by thematical:
“*wades in to make Granny grateful*
I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.
My personal bugbear is the use of 'where' for 'were' or there/their/they're incorrectly. But then I'm an English teacher so shoot me!”
“*wades in to make Granny grateful*
I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.
My personal bugbear is the use of 'where' for 'were' or there/their/they're incorrectly. But then I'm an English teacher so shoot me!
”
That'll teach me to keep quiet!
I must now say I am very grateful for the correction, and will try to remember not to make the same mistake again.
I care about grammar.
But I care more about manners.
I believe the title of the OP's thread was "Victory of the Daleks", not "What do you think of my grammar?".
Any chance of getting back on topic?
Edit - oops, I see we already have. Good!
But I care more about manners.
I believe the title of the OP's thread was "Victory of the Daleks", not "What do you think of my grammar?".
Any chance of getting back on topic?
Edit - oops, I see we already have. Good!
Originally Posted by thematical:
“*wades in to make Granny grateful*
I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.
My personal bugbear is the use of 'where' for 'were' or there/their/they're incorrectly. But then I'm an English teacher so shoot me!”
“*wades in to make Granny grateful*
I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.
My personal bugbear is the use of 'where' for 'were' or there/their/they're incorrectly. But then I'm an English teacher so shoot me!
”
As an English teacher, you should know better than to start a sentence with a preposition and you missed out a semi colon!
My pet hate is people using "less than" instead of "fewer than".
Originally Posted by thematical:
“I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.”
“I think that 'no one' is 2 separate words and shouldn't be hyphenated.”
Either - though "no-one" is traditionally reserved for informal use - like chatting on forums
Just one thing to bear in mind - (not you thematical - I mean everyone) - is that we get quite a few people here who have English as a second language. Also, there will be people with genuine problems and some whose language skills are below average - but they love Doctor Who and want to talk to others who share that enthusiasm online.
I'd hate to think that someone was made to feel unwelcome or intimidated when they may be making a huge effort and possibly making a brave decision to expose their shortcomings by putting virtual pen to paper.
I learned a long time ago that there's a huge gap between intellect and intelligence. Some of the most intellectual people I know are as thick as the proverbial - and vice versa.
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“As an English teacher, you should know better than to start a sentence with a preposition and you missed out a semi colon!”
“As an English teacher, you should know better than to start a sentence with a preposition and you missed out a semi colon!”
I think 'but' is a conjunction, but you're right, smudge's dad (nice name by the way), I shouldn't have started a sentence with it!
As someone said earlier, it's Murphy's Law that if we try to correct someone's grammar, we're likely to make a mistake ourselves!
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“Just one thing to bear in mind - (not you thematical - I mean everyone) - is that we get quite a few people here who have English as a second language. Also, there will be people with genuine problems and some whose language skills are below average - but they love Doctor Who and want to talk to others who share that enthusiasm online.
I'd hate to think that someone was made to feel unwelcome or intimidated when they may be making a huge effort and possibly making a brave decision to expose their shortcomings by putting virtual pen to paper.”
“Just one thing to bear in mind - (not you thematical - I mean everyone) - is that we get quite a few people here who have English as a second language. Also, there will be people with genuine problems and some whose language skills are below average - but they love Doctor Who and want to talk to others who share that enthusiasm online.
I'd hate to think that someone was made to feel unwelcome or intimidated when they may be making a huge effort and possibly making a brave decision to expose their shortcomings by putting virtual pen to paper.”
I agree 100%. Enough of the grammar police!
Back to the topic - Victory of the Daleks. I have to admit that when I watched this episode this evening I was a little bit bored, but I really enjoyed Time of the Angels which was on afterwards. Anyone else feel the same?
Victory felt like it was written purely to support the single scene of the new Daleks appearing - which really had bugger all to do with anything that happened in the rest of the story.
Despite it's short-comings, however, I really liked it and the nonsensical Spitfires are one of my favourite ever moments in TV - not just in Doctor Who. I must admit, tacky as it sounds - if I'd been making that episode, I'd have shot all of the Earth footage in grainy black and white and only used colour for the interior of the Dalek ship - just for a giggle.
The "Angels" two-parter is one of the strongest stories in the whole 2005+ run.
Despite it's short-comings, however, I really liked it and the nonsensical Spitfires are one of my favourite ever moments in TV - not just in Doctor Who. I must admit, tacky as it sounds - if I'd been making that episode, I'd have shot all of the Earth footage in grainy black and white and only used colour for the interior of the Dalek ship - just for a giggle.
The "Angels" two-parter is one of the strongest stories in the whole 2005+ run.
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“Either - though "no-one" is traditionally reserved for informal use - like chatting on forums
Just one thing to bear in mind - (not you thematical - I mean everyone) - is that we get quite a few people here who have English as a second language. Also, there will be people with genuine problems and some whose language skills are below average - but they love Doctor Who and want to talk to others who share that enthusiasm online.
I'd hate to think that someone was made to feel unwelcome or intimidated when they may be making a huge effort and possibly making a brave decision to expose their shortcomings by putting virtual pen to paper.
I learned a long time ago that there's a huge gap between intellect and intelligence. Some of the most intellectual people I know are as thick as the proverbial - and vice versa.”
“Either - though "no-one" is traditionally reserved for informal use - like chatting on forums
Just one thing to bear in mind - (not you thematical - I mean everyone) - is that we get quite a few people here who have English as a second language. Also, there will be people with genuine problems and some whose language skills are below average - but they love Doctor Who and want to talk to others who share that enthusiasm online.
I'd hate to think that someone was made to feel unwelcome or intimidated when they may be making a huge effort and possibly making a brave decision to expose their shortcomings by putting virtual pen to paper.
I learned a long time ago that there's a huge gap between intellect and intelligence. Some of the most intellectual people I know are as thick as the proverbial - and vice versa.”
Spot on Minky!!
I think part of the story is to establish that Amy didn't know what Daleks were, and that there had been some sort of reboot. It also established the sexual part of her character (can you remember someone you used to fancy?) and had the theme of what humanity is (see also banafalakalata or whoever in the Kylie episode).
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“It's not a 'conflation' at all, it's a 'contraction'. Basic English grammar... 
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“It's not a 'conflation' at all, it's a 'contraction'. Basic English grammar...
”
Thanks-sorry about that.
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“I think part of the story is to establish that Amy didn't know what Daleks were, and that there had been some sort of reboot. It also established the sexual part of her character (can you remember someone you used to fancy?) and had the theme of what humanity is (see also banafalakalata or whoever in the Kylie episode).”
“I think part of the story is to establish that Amy didn't know what Daleks were, and that there had been some sort of reboot. It also established the sexual part of her character (can you remember someone you used to fancy?) and had the theme of what humanity is (see also banafalakalata or whoever in the Kylie episode).”
I'm struggling to see how old Banoffeecaffelatte fits into it. He wasn't remotely human, was he?
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