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Melody fed lies to Tom, should be fired
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LIZALYNN
23-06-2011
I agree with the OP.
Melody was shown talking to members of the public who clearly quite liked the booster seat rucksack thing.
This wasn't mentioned in th boardroom or on You're Fired.
She did show that she is definately not a team player.
Leatherface!!!
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by LIZALYNN:
“I agree with the OP.
Melody was shown talking to members of the public who clearly quite liked the booster seat rucksack thing.
This wasn't mentioned in th boardroom or on You're Fired.
She did show that she is definately not a team player.”

End of the day, only one person can win the show, not a team.

Melody was the clearly the best on her team, and needs to show what she is made her.

All there were weak in her team, and shes just proving it.

I loved her last night personally, however my room mate was fing and blinding when she stayed
LIZALYNN
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Leatherface!!!:
“End of the day, only one person can win the show, not a team.

Melody was the clearly the best on her team, and needs to show what she is made her.

All there were weak in her team, and shes just proving it.

I loved her last night personally, however my room mate was fing and blinding when she stayed ”

I totally agree with you. Melody did deserve to stay. She cared nothing about her team mates, who were pathetic on this task in comparison.
Melody was extremely focussed and utterly selfish, but hey it's that sort of a competition.
Venetian
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by LIZALYNN:
“I totally agree with you. Melody did deserve to stay. She cared nothing about her team mates, who were pathetic on this task in comparison.
Melody was extremely focussed and utterly selfish, but hey it's that sort of a competition.”

Without doubt she was the person who should have stayed. But LAS is not looking for a sales person, as he frequenty reminds us. He gave her quite a grilling about her background and achievements and made the point that it was all commendable. However Melody as usual was only listening to and hearing what she wanted to hear and admitted clearly and loudly that she knew nothing about products! A slightly cooked goose here I think!
marks thespot
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“ He gave her quite a grilling about her background and achievements and made the point that it was all commendable.”

LS did not say "commendable"; that's what she told the others he said and was how she chose to interpret/represent his comment.

He actually said it was all very nice, or something like that & I think he was being sarcastic. He tried to ask her what she had actually done to receive those awards, and she didn't really answer. I think he regarded those awards in the same way as he often regards qualifications, he prefers actions to anything on paper.
trollface
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I would have accepted it if Melody got fired for it. Even with Leon's entire contribution being giving "LOL I'M DOING NOTHING! *peace sign*" interviews to camera. I think she's a bit lucky that there was an individual sales element to the task where she could shine (Vincent was clearly a strong salesman as much as Karren pulled poo-face to try to persuade us otherwise) but also she had a stronger past record to fall back on than Vincent did in that she had a prior victory as PM, some task wins and no prior Boardroom appearance and he had none of that.”

Yeah, I agree. I actually thought she was quite a strong candidate despite the bluster until last night. Had she been told "your teammates were weak and you performed well in this task, but you should be a team player" rather than being essentially told "you rode roughshod over your teammates in this task - well done, you" then I'd think she still was. But she received pretty much nothing but praise and took away from the boardroom that that's the kind of behaviour Lord Surallen is looking for. This cannot end well.

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“As it is, unless his business plan is blow-away great, I think he might have just about blown it.”

I'm not convinced that anything other than the business plans matter in this series. We've seen far more strange and obscure firings this series than ever before, and the vast majority of people seem to be being kept or fired based on anything other than their performance in the tasks - far more than any other year.

I'd be surprised if they didn't have to submit a business plan as part of their application process and that Lord Surallen had already whittled the candidates down to 2 or 3 before the process even began. I'd be really quite surprised if he didn't already know who had won by this stage of the programme.

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“Natasha's opinion surely weighs pretty much less than an atom's weight at this point doesn't it?”

I dunno. She doesn't have a bad record in the tasks, including a win as PM.
diary_room
23-06-2011
LS has made some very sarcastic remarks about her on Twitter. I don't think she can last much longer.
Mado
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by trollface:
“I wonder if the issue was that Nick and Lord Surallen both had to rely on Melody's word for what the market research said? Had Nick been there (and a French speaker), he'd have unquestionably called her on what the market research said. But he wasn't and nor was anybody else, so she could just claim people said whatever she wanted.”

Nick may not have been there - but the film crew were. Surely, in advance of decision making, Lord S does just what we did - watch the film footage.
Jepson
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mado:
“Nick may not have been there - but the film crew were. Surely, in advance of decision making, Lord S does just what we did - watch the film footage.”

I don't think he does. (Don't forget it will be unedited at that stage and there must be hours and hours of the stuff.)

If he did, some of his previous decisions would be even more unbelievable than they already are!
Venetian
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by marks thespot:
“LS did not say "commendable"; that's what she told the others he said and was how she chose to interpret/represent his comment.

He actually said it was all very nice, or something like that & I think he was being sarcastic. He tried to ask her what she had actually done to receive those awards, and she didn't really answer. I think he regarded those awards in the same way as he often regards qualifications, he prefers actions to anything on paper.”

Ok, I stand corrected It's been said before but Melody suffers with selective memory AND selective hearing. She was just so smug in that boardroom - channelled out everything negative and scored a big own goal by admitting she knew nothing about products.
johnF1971
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by totalwise:
“Calling it before everyone else, she did a small survey inside or outside a metro station between a car booster seat and a teapot light.

How is that a representative focus group? asking people whether they'd like a car booster seat outside a metro where people don't even drive..

Also there were at least some positive reactions for the booster seat, there were none for the teapot light.

Hate this corporate bs, where peope can't follow orders and undermine you by relaying incorrect information”

I basically agree but make 2 observations.

1. The Apprentice is a TV show, so as has often happened before, the more entertaining candidates get saved. Leon was the least entertaining of the 3.

2. More worryingly though, I think its probably true that in business, people like Melody who lie, cheat, manipulate and bulldoze their ideas through normally succeed and rise to the top. People like Tom who are intelligent but fair, honest and considerate sometimes get viewed as "weak" and don't do so well. It's not right, but unfortunately that's the way of the world.
haphash
23-06-2011
She is an awful self-important person who seems to be completely in love with herself. She's obviously a smart well educated girl in many ways but she lacks the ability to be humble and to empathise with people. This and her arrogance will be her undoing. I think she is too pretentious to win.
curlywurly
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by TCD1975:
“I don't understand how Sugar can like her because she's "like a tiger" (more like a bull in a china shop in my opinion). Okay, Tom could have been tougher but she completely disregarded his specific instructions.”

Sugar likes her greedy aggression and passion for the job. well all i can say is if she becomes his partner, she may well stitch him up, with her lies and passion to climb to the top.
haphash
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by johnF1971:
“I basically agree but make 2 observations.

1. The Apprentice is a TV show, so as has often happened before, the more entertaining candidates get saved. Leon was the least entertaining of the 3.

2. More worryingly though, I think its probably true that in business, people like Melody who lie, cheat, manipulate and bulldoze their ideas through normally succeed and rise to the top. People like Tom who are intelligent but fair, honest and considerate sometimes get viewed as "weak" and don't do so well. It's not right, but unfortunately that's the way of the world. ”

I think Tom has a better chance of winning than Melody. Sugar is not an idiot.
Shrike
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by johnF1971:
“..2. More worryingly though, I think its probably true that in business, people like Melody who lie, cheat, manipulate and bulldoze their ideas through normally succeed and rise to the top. People like Tom who are intelligent but fair, honest and considerate sometimes get viewed as "weak" and don't do so well. It's not right, but unfortunately that's the way of the world. ”

Sadly true - especially of Lord "I started out flogging ariels off the back of a van" Sugah.

I often wonder how the Apprentice would have worked out if they had gone with Phillip Green or got Richard Branson to do it...
bettemidler
23-06-2011
i was really annoyed she didnt get pulled up on that! i know nick was in the UK and didn't see, but i'd hope the camera crew would at least relay things like that back to the boardroom. one woman said 'oh its a really good idea' and she translated it as 'she thinks its just ok'. she got it in her head what she wanted to do and pretty much just forced it on everyone.
DavetheScot
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“I don't think he does. (Don't forget it will be unedited at that stage and there must be hours and hours of the stuff.)

If he did, some of his previous decisions would be even more unbelievable than they already are!”

Lord Sugar has said in the past that he doesn't get an opportunity to see any footage before making his decision.

In some series he's actually said that watching the series has changed his mind; he's acknowledged that Katie Hopkins and Michael Sophocles should both have gone sooner.
I love Ellie
24-06-2011
From the Asian Women Of Achievement Awards 2009.

Young Achiever of the Year
Winners: Rehana Azib, barrister
Rehana is 29 and a practising barrister in London. She studied law at Oxford University and is a scholar of the Inner Temple. Rehana has also done extensive mental health charity work, particularly with Asian women. Rehana's parents originate from Pakistan.

DJ Neev Ranu, Kiss FM
Neev's radio show on Kiss 100 attracts 607,000 listeners. Her show has been nominated twice for the Asian Music Awards and her produced show for Rishi Rich Project was nominated for a prestigious Sony Music Award.

Shortlisted Candidates:
Melody Hossaini
Kam Mattu
Sonali Shah
Rajini Vaidyanathan


Didn't she say that she'd won the award?
If so, oh dear. She'll be ripped to pieces at the interview stage.
billio
24-06-2011
Agree with the majority, she was appalling and AS's praise for her was annoying.
Đirona
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by LIZALYNN:
“I agree with the OP.
Melody was shown talking to members of the public who clearly quite liked the booster seat rucksack thing.
This wasn't mentioned in th boardroom or on You're Fired.
She did show that she is definately not a team player.”

suralan seems to want that!
Stansfield
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by LIZALYNN:
“I totally agree with you. Melody did deserve to stay. She cared nothing about her team mates, who were pathetic on this task in comparison.
Melody was extremely focussed and utterly selfish, but hey it's that sort of a competition.”

But she lost the task, for them....M couldn't see the Car Seat being a seller....but it was. And Tom knew, the rest wouldn't try hard to sell it.....which Helen did on the other Team.....big time.
Đirona
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“But she lost the task, for them....M couldn't see the Car Seat being a seller....but it was. And Tom knew, the rest wouldn't try hard to sell it.....which Helen did on the other Team.....big time.”

probably won precisely because they had helen

tom or natasha would have bodged up the sales pitch if they'd tried to sell the booster seat, it wasn't a given that it would definitely sell. the company thought it was a tad expensive, what would tom's answer have been?

"er..er...er...bonjour!"
sonyhamster
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by totalwise:
“Calling it before everyone else, she did a small survey inside or outside a metro station between a car booster seat and a teapot light.

How is that a representative focus group? asking people whether they'd like a car booster seat outside a metro where people don't even drive..

Also there were at least some positive reactions for the booster seat, there were none for the teapot light.

Hate this corporate bs, where peope can't follow orders and undermine you by relaying incorrect information”

You never know how the BBC cuts it... She might have done more than you think... Has anyone noticed that the BBC have been cutting the Apprentice differently this year? I.e. less of the task and more of the boardroom?
manforktorch
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“From the Asian Women Of Achievement Awards 2009.

Young Achiever of the Year
Winners: Rehana Azib, barrister
Rehana is 29 and a practising barrister in London. She studied law at Oxford University and is a scholar of the Inner Temple. Rehana has also done extensive mental health charity work, particularly with Asian women. Rehana's parents originate from Pakistan.

DJ Neev Ranu, Kiss FM
Neev's radio show on Kiss 100 attracts 607,000 listeners. Her show has been nominated twice for the Asian Music Awards and her produced show for Rishi Rich Project was nominated for a prestigious Sony Music Award.

Shortlisted Candidates:
Melody Hossaini
Kam Mattu
Sonali Shah
Rajini Vaidyanathan


Didn't she say that she'd won the award?
If so, oh dear. She'll be ripped to pieces at the interview stage.”

Oooooo now I wanna re-watch the boardroom part to see exactly what she said.
I love Ellie
24-06-2011
Originally Posted by manforktorch:
“Oooooo now I wanna re-watch the boardroom part to see exactly what she said.”

Melody herself either metioned the Asian woman award, or Sugar mentioned it and Melody agreed with him.
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