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Old 22-06-2011, 22:17
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No love, they eat them. With Frogs legs.

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Old 22-06-2011, 22:19
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I understood what she was trying to say, in that are the French family orientated, but it showed her immaturity to ask such blunt question.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:19
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I understood what she meant, but it was just hilarious how she said it. Bless.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:20
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I understood what she was trying to say, in that are the French family orientated, but it showed her immaturity to ask such blunt question.
But, to be fair, she said it off the top of her head - it wasn't to the product designers or to any of the customers.

Karren completely overreacted to a spur of the moment thought.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:20
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Wasn't this a Sting song?
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:22
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I understood what she was trying to say, in that are the French family orientated, but it showed her immaturity to ask such blunt question.
She doesn't really ask questions, she's kind of thinkiing on her feet and I thought it was very childish of Karren to make such a point of it. Completely irrelevant.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:22
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i think susan phrased it wrongly. she's obviously trying to understand french culture and buying practices.

props to her in taking karen's advice on board though
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:22
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She actually said 'are the French fond of their children' which is slightly different
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:23
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And she said do the french drive, what a numpty
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:25
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And she said do the french drive, what a numpty
Again, thinking out loud and just wondering if they were a motor-driven nation or more into public transport.

Melody thought along the same lines when she told Tom the Parisians used the Metro so they shouldn't go with the car seat.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:28
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Again, thinking out loud and just wondering if they were a motor-driven nation or more into public transport.

Melody thought along the same lines when she told Tom the Parisians used the Metro so they shouldn't go with the car seat.
she just didnt think before she spoke,
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:31
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It is a valid question...Different cultures relate to children differently...As we often say the only stupid questions are the one you are too shy to ask.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:32
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She was just saying things of the top of her head. She wasn't in front of clients or important business people. She was just brainstorming with her colleagues. We all knew what she was getting at, she just chose the wrong words. I thought Karren was quite unfair with the way she spoke to Susan. Susan is immature, no doubt about it, but she's clearly capable.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:33
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And she said do the french drive, what a numpty
Not according to Melody... so it wasn't a dumb question, was it?
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:35
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She asked "are the French fond of their children".

I agree with Socha, it was in private, she clearly was talking from a marketing point of view and had no effect on the outcome.
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:51
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Lighten up people...I think that's really funny lol
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Old 22-06-2011, 22:55
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Another 'have a go at Susan' thread. Yes, she's immature, but she's shown real passion at selling, and picked the right products. And she sold the most outside the major pitch that Helen did.
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:03
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Why is everyone acting like she asked this question while she was working on some social project about French parenting?

She was working on a consumer task is it not possible she was talking from that context? And isn't that a valid question?
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:15
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Why is everyone acting like she asked this question while she was working on some social project about French parenting?

She was working on a consumer task is it not possible she was talking from that context? And isn't that a valid question?
Non.
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:19
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She's thinking aloud in a private setting (with no one pitching the products to them present), so I will cut some slag there for Susan. After all, she DID pick the right product, and this is done, apparently in spite of Zoe being a completely useless sidekick with her...
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:21
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She's thinking aloud in a private setting (with no one pitching the products to them present), so I will cut some slag there for Susan. After all, she DID pick the right product, and this is done, apparently in spite of Zoe being a completely useless sidekick with her...
You might be prepared to cut some slag for Susan, I certainly wouldn't.
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:22
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She doesn't really ask questions, she's kind of thinkiing on her feet and I thought it was very childish of Karren to make such a point of it. Completely irrelevant.
Childish of Karren? It's Nick and Karren's job to observe and report, and Susan was the childish one for asking such questions. Susan wasn't thinking aloud, certainly not on her feet either, she genuinely didn't seem to know the answers. Not that Melody, who could speak French after all, seemed to know much more about the French. She seemed genuinely surprised to find Paris clogged with traffic when her "market research" had told her the Metro was the mode of choice.
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:22
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You might be prepared to cut some slag for Susan, I certainly wouldn't.
Go on then, do a Zoe on her. I don't care.
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:24
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Stuart the Brand asked similar questions throughout his series
one even to an inventor regarding over heating babies die on the thermal baby-grow
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Old 22-06-2011, 23:27
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Childish of Karren? It's Nick and Karren's job to observe and report, and Susan was the childish one for asking such questions. Susan wasn't thinking aloud, certainly not on her feet either, she genuinely didn't seem to know the answers. Not that Melody, who could speak French after all, seemed to know much more about the French themselves.
How was Susan childish? Because she phrased a question badly?

She was working out logically which of the products would appeal to the French. I use the same technique of asking questions out loud as she does - it's not about answers as such, but about making sure you're considering the right questions.

In this case (as she said in the boardroom), she was wondering if the French people were inclined to spend on parenting products. Sure, it wasn't phrased in the most intelligent of manners but she wasn't really asking anyone for an answer.
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