Originally Posted by Steve™:
“The proof I have is her statements to the press, on a TV show and also on her BabyK blog.”
“The proof I have is her statements to the press, on a TV show and also on her BabyK blog.”
Well that is convincing.
Is this You're Fired or a plug for Klass's business
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Originally Posted by seawitch:
“I'm afraid I've never been able to take Myleene seriously since the time she appeared on "Richard and Judy" along with Professor Colin Pillinger, of the Open University, talking of how passionate she was about Astrology and how she was taking a degree in it.
When she appeared on "Celebrity Mastermind", what was her specialist subject? Astrology? Astrophysics? No. "Sex and the City - Series 3"!
”
“I'm afraid I've never been able to take Myleene seriously since the time she appeared on "Richard and Judy" along with Professor Colin Pillinger, of the Open University, talking of how passionate she was about Astrology and how she was taking a degree in it.
When she appeared on "Celebrity Mastermind", what was her specialist subject? Astrology? Astrophysics? No. "Sex and the City - Series 3"!
”
Myleene Klass is passionate about publicising Myleene Klass.
Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with her fans defending her for it.
However that is all it is.
Originally Posted by allafix:
“No it's basically what she said if you watch iplayer, but not her exact words which I can't be bothered to transcribe to satisfy you and Steve trademark.
Are you denying she talked about discovering about puppies and Dubai and personally putting it right.
Are you denying she claimed her range moved away from the blue, red and yelow baby stereotypes?
You're arguing for the sake of it. give it a rest.”
“No it's basically what she said if you watch iplayer, but not her exact words which I can't be bothered to transcribe to satisfy you and Steve trademark.
Are you denying she talked about discovering about puppies and Dubai and personally putting it right.
Are you denying she claimed her range moved away from the blue, red and yelow baby stereotypes?
You're arguing for the sake of it. give it a rest.”
I wouldn't rise to their baiting if I were you.
The rubbish about the baby clothing was laughable. She spoke like she was a business genius when she is nothing more than a brand advocate.
Bring back Bra Woman.
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“Well that is convincing.
”
“Well that is convincing.
”
She has said on more than one occasion that she designs the clothes.
If you have EVIDENCE to the contrary please supply it
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“I wouldn't rise to their baiting if I were you.
The rubbish about the baby clothing was laughable. She spoke like she was a business genius when she is nothing more than a brand advocate.
Bring back Bra Woman.”
“I wouldn't rise to their baiting if I were you.
The rubbish about the baby clothing was laughable. She spoke like she was a business genius when she is nothing more than a brand advocate.
Bring back Bra Woman.”
Baiting???
Thats laughable.
Anyone who takes a different view to you is baiting.
I think you are possibly jealous of her achievements and perhaps wish you could do 10% as well as Myleene.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“The proof I have is her statements to the press, on a TV show and also on her BabyK blog.
You disagree, call her a liar, yet have produced no evidence whatsoever.
Links please.
ps: What I call rude is calling someone a liar without any evidence. Seems you are hyper sensitive about what people say about YOU, but not so sensitive when you are running down Myleene.
To me that speaks volumes!”
“The proof I have is her statements to the press, on a TV show and also on her BabyK blog.
You disagree, call her a liar, yet have produced no evidence whatsoever.
Links please.
ps: What I call rude is calling someone a liar without any evidence. Seems you are hyper sensitive about what people say about YOU, but not so sensitive when you are running down Myleene.
To me that speaks volumes!”
I'm not hypersensitive about myself, but as I said before when an FM insults me by saying I'm "too green" to be a businessman, and that I'm talking (quote) "shite" I do take it seriously.
Anyway, as you asked earlier here are the verbatim quotes (not paraphrases) of what dear Myleene said on You're Fired. It's about three minutes (10%) total of the programme that is devoted to her plugging herself and Baby K.
Quote:
“MK: You have to know your market. I'll give you a perfect example. I made little T shirts with puppies on them thinking how cute these are going to be perfect and just as we were researching we found out that it's a no go area in Dubai in a lot of the UAE. They just don't have the same sort of love of dogs as we do so I had to change all of the pictures the images to bears err (shouts) THEY LOVED IT. You do have to change everything, you know. I can't use purple in certain countries because it signifies death, too ecclesiastical.”
“MK: You have to know your market. I'll give you a perfect example. I made little T shirts with puppies on them thinking how cute these are going to be perfect and just as we were researching we found out that it's a no go area in Dubai in a lot of the UAE. They just don't have the same sort of love of dogs as we do so I had to change all of the pictures the images to bears err (shouts) THEY LOVED IT. You do have to change everything, you know. I can't use purple in certain countries because it signifies death, too ecclesiastical.”
Not sure what eccesiastical has to do with death, but there you go, we must take her word for it, mustn't we. Actually, to be fair to Myleene, in Thailand purple is the colour for widows clothes, but that doesn't stop people using purple for other things too. The Thai state airline uses purple on its planes, so it surely can't exclusively signify death or nobody would get on board. I'm guessing MK doesn't actually know which country purple is dodgy in otherwise she'd have said, not waffled about eccesiastical nonsense.
Later Dara invited her to talk about starting her business:
Quote:
“MK: I saw that if you didn't know the sex of your baby it was either that insipid yellow or then it was just blatant pink or blue. Whereas there was an opportunity to create really chic clothes, I've got a grandfather that works in textiles so it wasn't just quite as tenuous link errrm and also just you know make them really practical and get kind on the pocket and when you learn about how it genuinely works you know it, it, it can become a global business.
DARA: Sometimes it can be surprisingly easy to have a global business errrr
MK: You know you really just have to have a really clear idea of what you want to do and it keeps growing.
DARA (serious): So you put as much of your passion into the business as possible?
MK: Hugely so, and I think you know well look I know what people think when I first walk in they wonder whether I really do design the clothes. By the end of it there's not one stitch there's not one piece of fabric I could not tell you about. I choose the fabric, I choose the style, errm, even as far as sourcing the equipment, the microchips to the actual playmat.”
“MK: I saw that if you didn't know the sex of your baby it was either that insipid yellow or then it was just blatant pink or blue. Whereas there was an opportunity to create really chic clothes, I've got a grandfather that works in textiles so it wasn't just quite as tenuous link errrm and also just you know make them really practical and get kind on the pocket and when you learn about how it genuinely works you know it, it, it can become a global business.
DARA: Sometimes it can be surprisingly easy to have a global business errrr
MK: You know you really just have to have a really clear idea of what you want to do and it keeps growing.
DARA (serious): So you put as much of your passion into the business as possible?
MK: Hugely so, and I think you know well look I know what people think when I first walk in they wonder whether I really do design the clothes. By the end of it there's not one stitch there's not one piece of fabric I could not tell you about. I choose the fabric, I choose the style, errm, even as far as sourcing the equipment, the microchips to the actual playmat.”
So apart from the research part (which she admits "we" did, so she has some help) she does absolutely every stitch herself, choosing all the fabrics, the styles, even sourcing the playmat microchips. She's clearly no ordinary designer, she's superwoman with an electronics background to go with the textile grandfather.
If you believe all that I, I, I stuff that she does it all herself then you really are more gullible than I credited you for. Steve tm. She may have design input on clothes (and playmat microchips
), but Baby K is basically a Mothercare range which is far more than just clothes and she can't possibly design it all.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Baiting???
Thats laughable.
Anyone who takes a different view to you is baiting.
I think you are possibly jealous of her achievements and perhaps wish you could do 10% as well as Myleene.”
“Baiting???
Thats laughable.
Anyone who takes a different view to you is baiting.
I think you are possibly jealous of her achievements and perhaps wish you could do 10% as well as Myleene.”
3/10 in the wind up stakes.
I am perfectly happy with my own achievements. Real achievements rather than being a brand advocate.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“She has said on more than one occasion that she designs the clothes.
If you have EVIDENCE to the contrary please supply it”
“She has said on more than one occasion that she designs the clothes.
If you have EVIDENCE to the contrary please supply it
”
Hey, if you want to believe what she and her PR tell you that is up to you.
After all their addiction to the truth is well known. Still it is all good publicity.
http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/hertfo...arning_1_35428
http://enemiesofreason.blogspot.com/...oid-tales.html
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...and-knife.html
Originally Posted by allafix:
“So apart from the research part (which she admits "we" did, so she has some help) she does absolutely every stitch herself, choosing all the fabrics, the styles, even sourcing the playmat microchips. She's clearly no ordinary designer, she's superwoman with an electronics background to go with the textile grandfather.”
“So apart from the research part (which she admits "we" did, so she has some help) she does absolutely every stitch herself, choosing all the fabrics, the styles, even sourcing the playmat microchips. She's clearly no ordinary designer, she's superwoman with an electronics background to go with the textile grandfather.”
She isnt saying she does everything. Shes saying she:
[LIST][*]Chooses Fabrics[*]Designs and Chooses Styles[*]Sources Chips[/LIST]
What part of the above (as an "International Business" owner) do you see as being a problem for her to achieve???
Because I'll tell you now all of those things are fairly common typical things that occur in business...surely you should know that
She clearly has a PA and Employees...
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“Hey, if you want to believe what she and her PR tell you that is up to you.
”
“Hey, if you want to believe what she and her PR tell you that is up to you.
”
Since you havent been forthcoming with any evidence and dont seem very capable, I know who I would prefer to believe.
[quote=Steve™;51001337]She isnt saying she does everything. Shes saying she:
[LIST][*]Chooses Fabrics[*]Designs and Chooses Styles[*]Sources Chips[/LIST]
What part of the above (as an "International Business" owner) do you see as being a problem for her to achieve???
Because I'll tell you now all of those things are fairly common typical things that occur in business...surely you should know that
She clearly has a PA and Employees...[/QUOTE]
Evidence ?
[LIST][*]Chooses Fabrics[*]Designs and Chooses Styles[*]Sources Chips[/LIST]
What part of the above (as an "International Business" owner) do you see as being a problem for her to achieve???
Because I'll tell you now all of those things are fairly common typical things that occur in business...surely you should know that
She clearly has a PA and Employees...[/QUOTE]
Evidence ?
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“She isnt saying she does everything. Shes saying she:
[LIST][*]Chooses Fabrics[*]Designs and Chooses Styles[*]Sources Chips[/LIST]
What part of the above (as an "International Business" owner) do you see as being a problem for her to achieve???
Because I'll tell you now all of those things are fairly common typical things that occur in business...surely you should know that
She clearly has a PA and Employees...”
“She isnt saying she does everything. Shes saying she:
[LIST][*]Chooses Fabrics[*]Designs and Chooses Styles[*]Sources Chips[/LIST]
What part of the above (as an "International Business" owner) do you see as being a problem for her to achieve???
Because I'll tell you now all of those things are fairly common typical things that occur in business...surely you should know that
She clearly has a PA and Employees...”
Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm?? I've given you a brief outline of my experience. Links plus evidence please...
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm??”
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm??”
Myleene is known for her addiction to the truth.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...and-knife.html
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Since you havent been forthcoming with any evidence and dont seem very capable, I know who I would prefer to believe.”
“Since you havent been forthcoming with any evidence and dont seem very capable, I know who I would prefer to believe.”
I am sure her PR loves people like you.
After the knife story I would not trust a word this captain of industry said.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...and-knife.html
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm?? I've given you a brief outline of my experience. Links?”
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm?? I've given you a brief outline of my experience. Links?”
I'm stating what she has said and what is available via Companies House and the TMO service.
You on the other hand are calling her a liar without any substance.
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“Myleene is known for her addiction to the truth.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...and-knife.html”
“Myleene is known for her addiction to the truth.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/20...and-knife.html”
And the Police are known for theirs
I'd find it quite believable that an Officer said, perhaps casually, that a knife is disproportionate....
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm?? I've given you a brief outline of my experience. Links plus evidence please...”
“Why is she sourcing equipment and microchips? It's just a monstrous piece of hype. The real problem is still that the BBC gave her 10% of their programme to promote herself and her brand.
What exactly are your qualifications to judge business acumen, Steve tm?? I've given you a brief outline of my experience. Links plus evidence please...”
Quite right.
She is little more than a brand advocate.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“I'm stating what she has said and what is available via Companies House and the TMO service.
You on the other hand are calling her a liar without any substance.
And the Police are known for theirs
I'd find it quite believable that an Officer said, perhaps casually, that a knife is disproportionate....”
“I'm stating what she has said and what is available via Companies House and the TMO service.
You on the other hand are calling her a liar without any substance.
And the Police are known for theirs
I'd find it quite believable that an Officer said, perhaps casually, that a knife is disproportionate....”
Why would the Police lie in this case ?
You have the publicity hungry Klass and her agent who was so keen to get the story out and the Police who clarified it.
If it was true the Police, and I am no fan of theirs, would simply issue a statement to that effect.
If the Police were lying why has Klass and her publicist not called them out on it ?
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“I'm stating what she has said and what is available via Companies House and the TMO service.
You on the other hand are calling her a liar without any substance.
And the Police are known for theirs
I'd find it quite believable that an Officer said, perhaps casually, that a knife is disproportionate....”
“I'm stating what she has said and what is available via Companies House and the TMO service.
You on the other hand are calling her a liar without any substance.
And the Police are known for theirs
I'd find it quite believable that an Officer said, perhaps casually, that a knife is disproportionate....”
You just unquestioningly believe everything Myleene Klass and her agent say. Personally, I'd tend to believe the police, that no warning was made and the story pf the warning was publicity hype.
I'm not the only person who sees her baby business as celebrity badge engineering. No doubt she has some input, but she claimed she knows every stitch of every item, every fabric, every style. That's clearly nonsense, yet she said it in front of a live audience. The stuff about her sourcing microchips is literally incredible.
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“Why would the Police lie in this case ?”
“Why would the Police lie in this case ?”
Officers dont always document every word uttered.
I would have thought there was enough "story" without needing to add an untruth.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Officers dont always document every word uttered.
I would have thought there was enough "story" without needing to add an untruth.”
“Officers dont always document every word uttered.
I would have thought there was enough "story" without needing to add an untruth.”
I'll take that as an "I don't know".
Originally Posted by allafix:
“ No doubt she has some input, but she claimed she knows every stitch of every item, every fabric, every style. That's clearly nonsense, yet she said it in front of a live audience. The stuff about her sourcing microchips is literally incredible.”
“ No doubt she has some input, but she claimed she knows every stitch of every item, every fabric, every style. That's clearly nonsense, yet she said it in front of a live audience. The stuff about her sourcing microchips is literally incredible.”
Is it. Yet another statement without proof.
If you were aware of the size of the BabyK range its quite possible that she does know every style and fabric.
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“I'll take that as an "I don't know".”
“I'll take that as an "I don't know".”
You asked why the Police would lie. I gave an answer.
Do I KNOW. No I dont - I wasnt there. But then neither were you.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Is it. Yet another statement without proof.
If you were aware of the size of the BabyK range its quite possible that she does know every style and fabric.”
“Is it. Yet another statement without proof.
If you were aware of the size of the BabyK range its quite possible that she does know every style and fabric.”
As it is quite possible she does not.
You seem to be confused.
This is a discussion forum not a court of law.
It is for people to express their opinions.
You are also a slacka in providing evidence to back up your assertions. I requested evidence at 21.39 to your assertion about her having a PA and employees. Nothing is forthcoming.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“You asked why the Police would lie. I gave an answer.
Do I KNOW. No I dont - I wasnt there. But then neither were you.”
“You asked why the Police would lie. I gave an answer.
Do I KNOW. No I dont - I wasnt there. But then neither were you.”
You gave an INADEQUATE answer. A few weasel words.
Klass's publicist was not there either. Did not stop him from spreading his version of events through the MSM.
The Police were there, they have made a statement.
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Is it. Yet another statement without proof.
If you were aware of the size of the BabyK range its quite possible that she does know every style and fabric.”
“Is it. Yet another statement without proof.
If you were aware of the size of the BabyK range its quite possible that she does know every style and fabric.”
You still seem to be confusing this forum for a court of law.
You are demanding evidence but making statements without providing any evidence yourself.
Hypocritical at best.
Do you have any evidence she does know every fabric and style ?
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