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Born amidst war in Iran, to becoming a multi-award winning global businesswoman
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Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
There is no way on Gods Sweet earth that Sugar would ever go into business with a billy bs like this

Strike Melody off the win list.


"InspirEngage International is a social enterprise with the aim of improving the lives of children and young people worldwide."

What is a social enterprise exactly?: The government defines social enterprises as "businesses with primarily social objectives whose surpluses are principally reinvested for that purpose in the business or in the community, rather than being driven by the need to maximise profit for shareholders and owners." - so again what is she doing on the Apprentice?


here is what she does:

1)Skills Development Training (incl. Leadership, Communication & Business Development). InspirEngage applies its unique method of ‘in-room-application’ meaning all learning is applied within the room as opposed to leaving and not knowing how to apply it. so does anyone understand what that is or how a 23 year old woman with no experience in business and about 1 year in her own business could provide this?

2) Public Speaking (to mobilise, to inspire, to inform)About what and based on what experience, it does not say

3) Consultation (providing a wide range of services ranging from writing youth engagement strategies to cultural relations, to independent business development)based on what experience, what skills and from what knowledge base?

BS just plain old, made up in her bedroom BS
haphash
23-06-2011
Have to say I agree, bullshine.
Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
She will be torn apart in interview

cant wait
OnaOakey
23-06-2011
She's also apparently been working in the Youth Sector since she was 13. Am I wrong to be a little bit cynical about that?
Shrike
23-06-2011
But you're forgetting that she has been personally tutored by Al Gore, Professor Yaffle, The Mekon and Gandalf the Grey.
With such tutorage, who needs actual experiance?
haphash
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“But you're forgetting that she has been personally tutored by Al Gore, Professor Yaffle, The Mekon and Gandalf the Grey.
With such tutorage, who needs actual experiance?
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Didn't she mention the Dalai Lama as well at one point?
JAE21
23-06-2011
her "at the UN" speech about the French language had me falling off the sofa with laughter .... she seriously needs taken down a peg or 10
Shrike
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Didn't she mention the Dalai Lama as well at one point? ”

Oh yes! And Bishop Tutu, Mahatma Gandhi, The Hunny Monster, Ming The Merciless and The Wizard of Oz.
shefair
23-06-2011
as someone whose core buisness appears to be based on her abilty to inspire and lead it is such as shame that last night she came off as inherently unlikeable with all the listening and comprehension and sharing skills of a 2 year old!

Oh dear please say she isn't sucessful in inspirirng and leading the yuff of today, that prospect makes me very afraid!
floopy123
23-06-2011
Apparently her business makes profit so she must be doing something right. Sugar asked her if her company makes money and she said yes. It does sound a bit arty farty but if it brings in the cash, I doubt Sugar cares. If she can make money he'll consider working with her.
Button62
23-06-2011
I hope she gets to the interview stage.

Not pleasant but I would love to see her being disected and all her ridiculous claims exposed. She was probably in the same room as some of those people,not personally involved with them.

By the same token, I have sung with Bon Jovi. He was on the stage and I was not
Shrike
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Button62:
“I hope she gets to the interview stage.

Not pleasant but I would love to see her being disected and all her ridiculous claims exposed. She was probably in the same room as some of those people,not personally involved with them.”

Claude Litner:

"I have contacted The Dalai Lama, Al Gore and Bishop Tutu - and they have never heard of you. However Paul Daniels does recall you made the tea for him and Debbie once..."
Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by floopy123:
“Apparently her business makes profit so she must be doing something right. Sugar asked her if her company makes money and she said yes. It does sound a bit arty farty but if it brings in the cash, I doubt Sugar cares. If she can make money he'll consider working with her. ”

if your evidence is: "she said yes."

then may i respectfully suggest that law is not for you
Keefy1
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“She will be torn apart in interview

cant wait”

Presumed innocent until proven guilty. Will you have the nads to come on here and admit you were wrong if she passes the interviews with flying colours?
Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“Presumed innocent until proven guilty. Will you have the nads to come on here and admit you were wrong if she passes the interviews with flying colours?”

Yes but she will not

Its not particularly sherlock holmesian of me to see that
Keefy1
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“Yes but she will not

Its not particularly sherlock holmesian of me to see that”

Well, as LS said when talking about her business/experience claims "We'll see.." indicating that his people will get to the bottom of it all. But in the meantime, he seems pretty impressed with what he's seen of Melody - and with all due respect, I'd go with his judgement over yours any day of the week.
whatsoever
23-06-2011
He asked if she was not for profit and she said it was a for-profit business. But social enterprises are decidedly not-for-profit so she is pulling the wool somewhere.

I genuinely don't understand why businesses would consult with someone with no prior business experience.

When a business goes to say Management Consultants, normally young staff may do the leg work but it is all reveiwed by experienced staff who know what they are on about (well that's the idea anyway).

But how would someone so young who has set up a start up know how to write strategies or do staff training? And what does she train them on - that description looked like woolly public sector BS to me. I should know - I have spent a lot of time amongst such BS!
Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“Well, as LS said when talking about her business/experience claims "We'll see.." indicating that his people will get to the bottom of it all. But in the meantime, he seems pretty impressed with what he's seen of Melody - and with all due respect, I'd go with his judgement over yours any day of the week. ”

Then you have misunderstood what you saw last night. he admired one small aspect of her personality which was evident when shown against Leon and Tom (not hard).

he ridiculed her in the boardroom on numerous occasions and this was compounded by melody failing to see what he was doing (her awards was one bit).

It was like watching an episode of The Office.

In the interviews she will be pulled apart.
Zoltan Smith
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by whatsoever:
“He asked if she was not for profit and she said it was a for-profit business. But social enterprises are decidedly not-for-profit so she is pulling the wool somewhere.

I genuinely don't understand why businesses would consult with someone with no prior business experience.

When a business goes to say Management Consultants, normally young staff may do the leg work but it is all reveiwed by experienced staff who know what they are on about (well that's the idea anyway).

But how would someone so young who has set up a start up know how to write strategies or do staff training? And what does she train them on - that description looked like woolly public sector BS to me. I should know - I have spent a lot of time amongst such BS!”

As stated in post one, it is bs and fake


Anyone who is above 30 and in a responsible position will see it a mile off.
the_lostprophet
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“Well, as LS said when talking about her business/experience claims "We'll see.." indicating that his people will get to the bottom of it all. But in the meantime, he seems pretty impressed with what he's seen of Melody - and with all due respect, I'd go with his judgement over yours any day of the week. ”

I think you're being naive and unquestioning; I agree with the OP's take on this. Anyway go and look at what Lord Sugar was sarcastically saying about her on his Twitter last night. He did about three or four Tweets in which he mocked her and his attitude there is obviously far more up to date than what we're viewing in the series.

How can you think she'll pass the interview with flying colours? Have you watched this show before? The Apprentice interviewers are notoriously good at uncovering BS on candidates' CVs.
Keefy1
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Zoltan Smith:
“Then you have misunderstood what you saw last night. he admired one small aspect of her personality which was evident when shown against Leon and Tom (not hard).

he ridiculed her in the boardroom on numerous occasions and this was compounded by melody failing to see what he was doing (her awards was one bit).

It was like watching an episode of The Office.

In the interviews she will be pulled apart.”

I don't think I misunderstood what I saw. He admired a lot more than one small aspect; he was all over her like a bad rash. The look he gave her as they walked out spoke volumes - he was impressed and clearly said as much in his closing words.

Yes, he questioned some of her CV claims (since when did we call them resumes in this country?) and she answered his questions and he was happy to say, "Well, we'll see...". And we will.

She may be pulled apart in the interviews and I've not said she won't - just that let's wait and see and we can judge her on what we see then, not pre-judge her.
zedders
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Didn't she mention the Dalai Lama as well at one point? ”

bet the Dalai Lama didn't teach her to lie, manipulate, and be selfish.
Keefy1
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by the_lostprophet:
“I think you're being naive and unquestioning; I agree with the OP's take on this. Anyway go and look at what Lord Sugar was sarcastically saying about her on his Twitter last night. He did about three or four Tweets in which he mocked her and his attitude there is obviously far more up to date than what we're viewing in the series.

How can you think she'll pass the interview with flying colours? Have you watched this show before? The Apprentice interviewers are notoriously good at uncovering BS on candidates' CVs.”

I prefer to watch the show in the timeframe it's presented and not look for spoilers on Twitter or elsewhere. That would spoil the show for me. What i would say is that the show is constantly edited to make you think one particular outcome is inevitable only for a shock twist to happen and it actually goes the other way. It's produced for entertainment after all. So maybe you should take LS' tweets (or is the past participle 'tw*ts'?) with a pinch of salt. Why would he want to spoil the outcome of the show?

I'm not saying she will get through with flying colours at all - she may well be full of shit - but let's wait and see and not pre-judge eh?
danmoz
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by Keefy1:
“Well, as LS said when talking about her business/experience claims "We'll see.." indicating that his people will get to the bottom of it all. But in the meantime, he seems pretty impressed with what he's seen of Melody - and with all due respect, I'd go with his judgement over yours any day of the week. ”

Really? You're going on the judgement of the guy who thought the em@iler was a good product and that the ipod would die a death?

Originally Posted by Google:
“Creditsafe’s analysis of the directorship history of the candidates featured on the BBC’s hit show The Apprentice reveals their vaunted boasts of business acumen may not stand up to scrutiny. The bespectacled Tom Pellereau claims to be a successful inventor, however the company he co-founded in 2008 M&P Consulting turned over just £500 last year and has a net worth of minus £15,597.

A number of candidates are directors of businesses deemed risky for companies to trade with. Surviving candidate Melody Hossaini, the sole director of Inspirengage, and Leon Doyle, the only director of The Menu Master Limited, both head up companies with low credit ratings. Companies trading with their businesses are advised to only grant credit against collateral because of the risk of these companies entering insolvency in the next 12 months.”

Keefy1
23-06-2011
Originally Posted by danmoz:
“Really? You're going on the judgement of the guy who thought the em@iler was a good product and that the ipod would die a death?”

Yes, really. Lord Sugar's business judgement against the judgement of someone called Zoltan Smith on Digital Spy?
A no-brainer.

Of course LS's made mistakes, but like him or loathe him, he seems to know what he's doing in business.

As for the quote, well let's wait and see. Why the rush to pre-judge? That's all I meant by 'innocent until proven guilty'.
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