How do people choose a new TV?

2Bdecided · 24-06-2011, 14:21

I know I'm picky(!), but all modern TVs seem to be really bad in two respects...

1) audio. The TVs are thin, and the built-in speakers are awful.
2) motion rendition. They can't do it. It's juddery, artefacted, blured, or all three. The best current TVs aren't a patch on a CRT in this respect, and the worst are truly abysmal.

The other things that bugged me in the past seem to have improved greatly - SD upconversion quality, colour rendition, black level, viewing angle etc. But these two issues remain.

What do other picky people do? How do you choose a decent TV these days?

It's easy enough to check the audio - play music through the TV, and cringe. Do people give up on the TV sound and connect external speakers? Fair enough, but another remote control for an AV amp is going to drive the rest of the people in the house mad.

It's harder to check motion rendition, as most shops carefully pick content that doesn't show up this problem - the BBC HD Preview Loop's A/V synch check is sometimes sufficient to reveal the problems: that fast scrolling white bar at the bottom looks right on a CRT and nothing else. How to resolve this?

Cheers,
David.

stud u like · 24-06-2011, 14:25

Reviews from several sources.
Design
Wattage of speakers
Headphone socket
HDMI sockets and location. Some are stupidly placed and the cable isn't long enough.
Number of scart sockets
Added internet.
How long the product lasts for without needing replacing or repair.

captainkremmen · 24-06-2011, 15:01

Performance. I went round quite a few places and viewed a number of sets. Richer Sounds and John Lewis were good. Richer Sounds had a couple of models set-up in a demo room and were happy to demonstrate them for me too. John Lewis were happy to let me loose with the TV remotes too. In the end JL had the one I preferred, but just could not match the online price I found. Second criteria was connectivity and then design.

In the end I settled on the one I would recommend for the old guy who asked me to research, and found it online at a good price. Few days later it arrived at my house as he had bought it for me.

It also sounds excellent too for a flat screen.

zandar · 24-06-2011, 16:54

I could not agree with you more, David. I have also hung to an ancient CRT television due to the poor quality of ordinary broadcast television in standard definition along with poor sound on these modern "thin" televisions.

Anyway, I am now researching for a new TV to finally make the leap to High Definition (I already have a Freesat HD recorder by Panasonic).

I would certainly rule out all televisions that do not have a HD tuner. (Loads of people have bought 'HD Ready' sets thinking they were getting high definition televisions out of the box).

I would also demand one that swivels on the stand as I keep changing seats in my living room according to where the sun is at different times of the day. That unfortunately rules out most Panasonics as they tend to produce mainly fixed mounts. (They also have an annoying EPG with adverts according to reviews).

I would prefer an LED television running at least 100hz (to reduce motion blur) with a size of 32". The only 2 models that Sony do at this size as LED's also have 3D - which I don't want. As they have 3D, this makes them expensive. So, it looks like Sony are ruled out despite them offering a 5 year guarantee.

A 5 year guarantee is essential I reckon. If the manufacturer won't offer this, then I must get one via the retailer. (Some retailers include this - such as John Lewis although they are not always the cheapest, so would have to find a local price match). Alternatively, buy for less on the Internet and fork out the money for the 5 year guarantee.

I would like a clear remote control combined with ease of access to things like the contrast menu.

I would like a set that has automatic aspect ratio.

I hate the shiny black plastic surrounds that have reflections.
Phillips produce sets with a more dull grey surround that I like. However, Phillips sets are overpriced and they have not produced 32 incher's with HD tuners. So, that rules them out.

Can't find LG's website. So, that rules them out!

Samsung's website does not have this year's models. Brilliant!

Looks like I am also going to have to fork out for some sort of sound system. You would think that the manufacturers would produce some sort of plug in system as an optional extra for their televisions.

All very frustrating.

2Bdecided · 24-06-2011, 17:19

I'm sure all the frustration will be worth it for a lovely HD picture though!

(I'm not being sarcastic - when there's no sound and nothing moves, I think lots of HDTVs fed with a decent HD signal look absolutely spectacular - problem is, I want to watch things with movement and sound too!

)

Cheers,
David.

JulesandSand · 25-06-2011, 10:04

I start at my local Sony centre who will, at any given time, over 30 sets on display.

The only other brand I would consider is Panasonic but our local Panasonic shop closed down. John Lewis sell them but they're a fair bit away.

I've seen half decent Samsung and LG sets but none I've seen come close to a top-level Sony.

Oh - and by and large, you get what you pay for.

captainkremmen · 25-06-2011, 10:32

LG's UK site is here:
http://www.lg.com/uk/

DRAGON LANCE · 25-06-2011, 10:58

In a nutshell there is no such thing as a perfect flat screen TV and buying one is about seeing what are the plus and negative points are and seeing what flaws you can put up with.

Coming from CRT I would generally recommend getting a plasma screen. The colours they produce are more natural (like CRT) and they (generally) have better motion resolution. That said they aren't a good choice for rooms with huge amounts of natural light flooding in as they become washed out.

If I was you I would go to the website AV Forums. What you need to do is find a few models of TV you are interested in, then go on there and find the threads which cover that model. Generally at the start of the thread you'll get all the fanboys pronouncing the set as the best ever, etc, blah blah. Usually more interesting at the end as by that stage you get all the people who've bought one and found its flaws and faults.

bobcar · 25-06-2011, 11:30

Firstly I choose the size I want which would rule out CRT anyway even if they were still available (well they are second hand). After that it's the PQ that counts and last time I was looking that meant plasma for me though if reflections were a problem I'd have gone for LCD.

The sound from the TV is irrelevant. No flat screen will have really good sound without external speakers so external sound is essential. If space is a problem then get a soundbar!

zandar · 25-06-2011, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainkremmen

LG's UK site is here:
http://www.lg.com/uk/

Many thanks.

David (2) · 25-06-2011, 22:32

CRT Vs LCD

CRT speakers = better sound, although to be fair some LCDs do manage to put out a half decent sound with quite good stereo effect. Our 2 Sonys manage this, but the little Grundigs sound is very poor ("thin" being the technical expression i think).

Viewing angle. I go along with the OP. Things have improved a lot in this matter, nearly to a point where it no longer matters - but not quite. Left/right angles are handled better than vertical angles.

Black=Dark grey on LCD? Well, on this I think it depends a lot on the LCD and any settings it has. In Theatre/Cinima Mode, these sonys impose a suite of settings designed to optimize material made on 35mm film, and I have to say, I am impressed by this. My test is the black and white backgrounds with large text at the begining or ends of films. In "Normal" Mode the black backgrounds go from black to dark grey when the text appears. But in Theatre/Cinima mode, this doesnt happen and the blacks are indeed black, like a CRT used to be.

Motion blur. Still a problem, but getting better. HD handles this better too.

SD upscaler = good enough not to be an issue now, but some sets still do this a bit better than others. To my way of thinking, as time goes by, sets will get better at HD display, but worse at SD display. Maybe fitting a poor (read "cheap") upscaler will be a key way to save production costs in the future, the reason put to us will be that *everyone has HD now*, which wont be true for quite some years yet.

Size, weight, power usage, heat generation = LCD wins hands down on all these.

2Bdecided · 27-06-2011, 15:43

Thanks - some good advice in this thread!

I think I might burn some typical SD Freeview/Freesat recordings to DVD and take them with me. I'll try to find some nice quick scrolling/panning. Most shops show BBC HD, so watching the tennis at the moment is a pretty good PQ and motion test.

Cheers,
David.

Charcole911 · 27-06-2011, 16:09

Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

Tiexen · 27-06-2011, 16:32

LCD much better in sunlight

JulesandSand · 27-06-2011, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charcole911

Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

Yes OP - don't get a TV at all - get out and fix the world.

Meanwhile I'll be watching Wimbledon in HD on my 52" LCD.

captainkremmen · 27-06-2011, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charcole911

Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

But what would he watch shiny shiny HD on?.

call100 · 27-06-2011, 19:48

I'll make a bet now that you probably won't be satisfied.
Perhaps the leap into the 21st century may be a bit much.

As for how I chose, I did a lot of research, compared various aspects on all the major brands, saw as many as I could in a home environment. Discounted sound as an issue because I never use the TV speakers. Trawled through the connectivity issues to ensure I had all the bases covered.......

All that and I had to buy the one my wife liked the look of!!!!!!!

(actually it turned out to be quite good.

)

Good luck with whatever you purchase.

late8 · 27-06-2011, 20:54

reviews

picture quality

thats it - a tv is for picture - a sound system for sound.

geordielady · 27-06-2011, 22:25

LCD and a Sony, easy choice.

Gary Glimmer · 27-06-2011, 22:53

Go to AV Forums and do a lot of research. That's what i did. Plasma handles motion better than LCD. I went for a Panasonic G20 50 after all my reading and it's awesome. Pointless viewing screens in a shop as they arent true of a real world situation. Sound from a TV will NEVER beat a dedicated surround system.. I had someone round the other week and they said 'this sounds better than the pictures' lol. Bit OTT but you get the picture.
Too many remotes? Harmony ONE.. nice... works my tv, bluray, amp, freesat recorder, htpc and my xbox.
http://www.avforums.com/

koantemplation · 27-06-2011, 23:02

I picked mine by viewing it and other TVs in the shop. Inparticular I watched BBC HD and noticed the colours and any juddering when a scene was panning.

Picture wise the TV is great LG 32LH4000. The only thing I didn't notice in the shop (because it was too noisy) was a slight electrical hum if I had energy saving switched on, so now have to have the back light at 100% to stop the hum.

noise747 · 27-06-2011, 23:14

Sound wise my Philips Plasma is pretty good, got nice bass and good top end. if i am sat int he right place I can hear the stereo separation, whihc is far better than a lot of sets.

Picture wise it is pretty good as well, certainly on blu-ray and DVD. Freeview picture is as good as Freeview is.

i would go for another Philips TV, but sadly they don't make Plasmas anymore, only LCD.

krazyvulcan · 27-06-2011, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charcole911

Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

Yeah , why bother with colour , or stereo either

Just the sort of rubbish we might expect to see from someone who until the other day was not even aware that you could record on dvd's.

I would stick to what you know about - that is soaps.
Leave the technology to those who know about it and can afford it

noise747 · 27-06-2011, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charcole911

Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

I would have stayed with my old CRT set if I did not have the plasma as a gift, i may even got back to my old CRt set when the Plasma goes belly up, depends if I can be bothered to spend the money on a new set.

krazyvulcan · 27-06-2011, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise747

I would have stayed with my old CRT set if I did not have the plasma as a gift, i may even got back to my old CRt set when the Plasma goes belly up, depends if I can be bothered to spend the money on a new set.

If you have a decent HD or Bluray setup you won't want to go back to CRT after using a plasma or lcd.

A crt beats flat panels on one thing only - they hide the lower picture quality of some of the sd digital channels .
SD should be as good as dvd but cost cutting by the channels means it isn't.

24-06-2011, 14:21	#1
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	How do people choose a new TV? I know I'm picky(!), but all modern TVs seem to be really bad in two respects... 1) audio. The TVs are thin, and the built-in speakers are awful. 2) motion rendition. They can't do it. It's juddery, artefacted, blured, or all three. The best current TVs aren't a patch on a CRT in this respect, and the worst are truly abysmal. The other things that bugged me in the past seem to have improved greatly - SD upconversion quality, colour rendition, black level, viewing angle etc. But these two issues remain. What do other picky people do? How do you choose a decent TV these days? It's easy enough to check the audio - play music through the TV, and cringe. Do people give up on the TV sound and connect external speakers? Fair enough, but another remote control for an AV amp is going to drive the rest of the people in the house mad. It's harder to check motion rendition, as most shops carefully pick content that doesn't show up this problem - the BBC HD Preview Loop's A/V synch check is sometimes sufficient to reveal the problems: that fast scrolling white bar at the bottom looks right on a CRT and nothing else. How to resolve this? Cheers, David.

27-06-2011, 19:48	#17
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	I'll make a bet now that you probably won't be satisfied. Perhaps the leap into the 21st century may be a bit much. As for how I chose, I did a lot of research, compared various aspects on all the major brands, saw as many as I could in a home environment. Discounted sound as an issue because I never use the TV speakers. Trawled through the connectivity issues to ensure I had all the bases covered....... All that and I had to buy the one my wife liked the look of!!!!!!! (actually it turned out to be quite good.) Good luck with whatever you purchase.

24-06-2011, 14:25	#2
stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Posts: 40,105	Reviews from several sources. Design Wattage of speakers Headphone socket HDMI sockets and location. Some are stupidly placed and the cable isn't long enough. Number of scart sockets Added internet. How long the product lasts for without needing replacing or repair.

24-06-2011, 15:01	#3
captainkremmen Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DAVEVILLE, Daveshire DA1 1VE Posts: 33,621	Performance. I went round quite a few places and viewed a number of sets. Richer Sounds and John Lewis were good. Richer Sounds had a couple of models set-up in a demo room and were happy to demonstrate them for me too. John Lewis were happy to let me loose with the TV remotes too. In the end JL had the one I preferred, but just could not match the online price I found. Second criteria was connectivity and then design. In the end I settled on the one I would recommend for the old guy who asked me to research, and found it online at a good price. Few days later it arrived at my house as he had bought it for me. It also sounds excellent too for a flat screen.

24-06-2011, 16:54	#4
zandar Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 760	I could not agree with you more, David. I have also hung to an ancient CRT television due to the poor quality of ordinary broadcast television in standard definition along with poor sound on these modern "thin" televisions. Anyway, I am now researching for a new TV to finally make the leap to High Definition (I already have a Freesat HD recorder by Panasonic). I would certainly rule out all televisions that do not have a HD tuner. (Loads of people have bought 'HD Ready' sets thinking they were getting high definition televisions out of the box). I would also demand one that swivels on the stand as I keep changing seats in my living room according to where the sun is at different times of the day. That unfortunately rules out most Panasonics as they tend to produce mainly fixed mounts. (They also have an annoying EPG with adverts according to reviews). I would prefer an LED television running at least 100hz (to reduce motion blur) with a size of 32". The only 2 models that Sony do at this size as LED's also have 3D - which I don't want. As they have 3D, this makes them expensive. So, it looks like Sony are ruled out despite them offering a 5 year guarantee. A 5 year guarantee is essential I reckon. If the manufacturer won't offer this, then I must get one via the retailer. (Some retailers include this - such as John Lewis although they are not always the cheapest, so would have to find a local price match). Alternatively, buy for less on the Internet and fork out the money for the 5 year guarantee. I would like a clear remote control combined with ease of access to things like the contrast menu. I would like a set that has automatic aspect ratio. I hate the shiny black plastic surrounds that have reflections. Phillips produce sets with a more dull grey surround that I like. However, Phillips sets are overpriced and they have not produced 32 incher's with HD tuners. So, that rules them out. Can't find LG's website. So, that rules them out! Samsung's website does not have this year's models. Brilliant! Looks like I am also going to have to fork out for some sort of sound system. You would think that the manufacturers would produce some sort of plug in system as an optional extra for their televisions. All very frustrating.

24-06-2011, 17:19	#5
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	I'm sure all the frustration will be worth it for a lovely HD picture though! (I'm not being sarcastic - when there's no sound and nothing moves, I think lots of HDTVs fed with a decent HD signal look absolutely spectacular - problem is, I want to watch things with movement and sound too! ) Cheers, David.

25-06-2011, 10:04	#6
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	I start at my local Sony centre who will, at any given time, over 30 sets on display. The only other brand I would consider is Panasonic but our local Panasonic shop closed down. John Lewis sell them but they're a fair bit away. I've seen half decent Samsung and LG sets but none I've seen come close to a top-level Sony. Oh - and by and large, you get what you pay for.

25-06-2011, 10:32	#7
captainkremmen Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DAVEVILLE, Daveshire DA1 1VE Posts: 33,621	LG's UK site is here: http://www.lg.com/uk/

25-06-2011, 10:58	#8
DRAGON LANCE Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,230	In a nutshell there is no such thing as a perfect flat screen TV and buying one is about seeing what are the plus and negative points are and seeing what flaws you can put up with. Coming from CRT I would generally recommend getting a plasma screen. The colours they produce are more natural (like CRT) and they (generally) have better motion resolution. That said they aren't a good choice for rooms with huge amounts of natural light flooding in as they become washed out. If I was you I would go to the website AV Forums. What you need to do is find a few models of TV you are interested in, then go on there and find the threads which cover that model. Generally at the start of the thread you'll get all the fanboys pronouncing the set as the best ever, etc, blah blah. Usually more interesting at the end as by that stage you get all the people who've bought one and found its flaws and faults.

25-06-2011, 11:30	#9
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Firstly I choose the size I want which would rule out CRT anyway even if they were still available (well they are second hand). After that it's the PQ that counts and last time I was looking that meant plasma for me though if reflections were a problem I'd have gone for LCD. The sound from the TV is irrelevant. No flat screen will have really good sound without external speakers so external sound is essential. If space is a problem then get a soundbar!

25-06-2011, 14:06	#10
zandar Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 760	Quote: Originally Posted by captainkremmen LG's UK site is here: http://www.lg.com/uk/ Many thanks.

25-06-2011, 22:32	#11
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S.West England. Posts: 18,037	CRT Vs LCD CRT speakers = better sound, although to be fair some LCDs do manage to put out a half decent sound with quite good stereo effect. Our 2 Sonys manage this, but the little Grundigs sound is very poor ("thin" being the technical expression i think). Viewing angle. I go along with the OP. Things have improved a lot in this matter, nearly to a point where it no longer matters - but not quite. Left/right angles are handled better than vertical angles. Black=Dark grey on LCD? Well, on this I think it depends a lot on the LCD and any settings it has. In Theatre/Cinima Mode, these sonys impose a suite of settings designed to optimize material made on 35mm film, and I have to say, I am impressed by this. My test is the black and white backgrounds with large text at the begining or ends of films. In "Normal" Mode the black backgrounds go from black to dark grey when the text appears. But in Theatre/Cinima mode, this doesnt happen and the blacks are indeed black, like a CRT used to be. Motion blur. Still a problem, but getting better. HD handles this better too. SD upscaler = good enough not to be an issue now, but some sets still do this a bit better than others. To my way of thinking, as time goes by, sets will get better at HD display, but worse at SD display. Maybe fitting a poor (read "cheap") upscaler will be a key way to save production costs in the future, the reason put to us will be that everyone has HD now, which wont be true for quite some years yet. Size, weight, power usage, heat generation = LCD wins hands down on all these.

27-06-2011, 15:43	#12
2Bdecided Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4,391	Thanks - some good advice in this thread! I think I might burn some typical SD Freeview/Freesat recordings to DVD and take them with me. I'll try to find some nice quick scrolling/panning. Most shops show BBC HD, so watching the tennis at the moment is a pretty good PQ and motion test. Cheers, David.

27-06-2011, 16:09	#13
Charcole911 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fife Posts: 6,078	Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now.

27-06-2011, 16:32	#14
Tiexen Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 425	LCD much better in sunlight

27-06-2011, 16:35	#15
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by Charcole911 Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now. Yes OP - don't get a TV at all - get out and fix the world. Meanwhile I'll be watching Wimbledon in HD on my 52" LCD.

27-06-2011, 19:14	#16
captainkremmen Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DAVEVILLE, Daveshire DA1 1VE Posts: 33,621	Quote: Originally Posted by Charcole911 Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now. But what would he watch shiny shiny HD on?.

27-06-2011, 20:54	#18
late8 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,052	reviews picture quality thats it - a tv is for picture - a sound system for sound.

27-06-2011, 22:25	#19
geordielady Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9,850	LCD and a Sony, easy choice.

27-06-2011, 22:53	#20
Gary Glimmer Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 196	Go to AV Forums and do a lot of research. That's what i did. Plasma handles motion better than LCD. I went for a Panasonic G20 50 after all my reading and it's awesome. Pointless viewing screens in a shop as they arent true of a real world situation. Sound from a TV will NEVER beat a dedicated surround system.. I had someone round the other week and they said 'this sounds better than the pictures' lol. Bit OTT but you get the picture. Too many remotes? Harmony ONE.. nice... works my tv, bluray, amp, freesat recorder, htpc and my xbox. http://www.avforums.com/

27-06-2011, 23:02	#21
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	I picked mine by viewing it and other TVs in the shop. Inparticular I watched BBC HD and noticed the colours and any juddering when a scene was panning. Picture wise the TV is great LG 32LH4000. The only thing I didn't notice in the shop (because it was too noisy) was a slight electrical hum if I had energy saving switched on, so now have to have the back light at 100% to stop the hum.

27-06-2011, 23:14	#22
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Sound wise my Philips Plasma is pretty good, got nice bass and good top end. if i am sat int he right place I can hear the stereo separation, whihc is far better than a lot of sets. Picture wise it is pretty good as well, certainly on blu-ray and DVD. Freeview picture is as good as Freeview is. i would go for another Philips TV, but sadly they don't make Plasmas anymore, only LCD.

DS Forums

How do people choose a new TV?

27-06-2011, 23:14	#23
krazyvulcan Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 35	Quote: Originally Posted by Charcole911 Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now. Yeah , why bother with colour , or stereo either Just the sort of rubbish we might expect to see from someone who until the other day was not even aware that you could record on dvd's. I would stick to what you know about - that is soaps. Leave the technology to those who know about it and can afford it

27-06-2011, 23:18	#24
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by Charcole911 Just go on ebay or gumtree plenty people selling CRT televisions. You don't need to jump on the latest technological bandwagon just because other people are falling for the advertising. Its just a box in the corner for a couple of hours entertainment, there are much more important issues need fixing with the world right now. I would have stayed with my old CRT set if I did not have the plasma as a gift, i may even got back to my old CRt set when the Plasma goes belly up, depends if I can be bothered to spend the money on a new set.

27-06-2011, 23:22	#25
krazyvulcan Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 35	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 I would have stayed with my old CRT set if I did not have the plasma as a gift, i may even got back to my old CRt set when the Plasma goes belly up, depends if I can be bothered to spend the money on a new set. If you have a decent HD or Bluray setup you won't want to go back to CRT after using a plasma or lcd. A crt beats flat panels on one thing only - they hide the lower picture quality of some of the sd digital channels . SD should be as good as dvd but cost cutting by the channels means it isn't.