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Why have the men been so bad on The Apprentice in recent years |
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Why have the men been so bad on The Apprentice in recent years
I know Chris got to the final last year, but on the whole they seem either weak and pushovers such as Tom and Leon or too much the other way such as Jim.
Most of the male candidates this year have been pretty appaling. Just as well it is not a public vote though
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Apart from statistical variance the only explanation I can come up with is that Sugar's liking for the 'barrow boy' mentality causes him to dump the type of men that prefer to give a little thought to things in favour of those who wade in and get stuck in even if they don't really have a clue.
It may be that women have a subtly different split that means he doesn't tend to get rid of the good ones early on. Or it could just be that women are generally better than us. ![]() I'll get me coat.
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The boys always make stupid mistakes that not even a 4 year old would make
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I'd have to agree that the male candidates of late have in general been poor in comparison to the women, but I honestly don't think that women are better in business - probably equal - but the people in charge seem to have chosen male candidates that would deliberately crash and burn. Take this series for example, Edward was shocking, but was put in for entertainment sake rather then for business skills. Gavin's timid demenour was almost an assurity to be bulldozed by the more forcefull candidates. Vincent's bravado, again for entertainments sake. Did the producers really expect any of these to go far?
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I know Chris got to the final last year, but on the whole they seem either weak and pushovers such as Tom and Leon or too much the other way such as Jim.
Most of the male candidates this year have been pretty appaling. Just as well it is not a public vote though ![]() |
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I didn't think Glenn was that bad, I'm still surprised he was fired for being an engineer! Why even let him on the show if you don't like engineers?!
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Real men are too busy getting real jobs.
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I didn't think Glenn was that bad, I'm still surprised he was fired for being an engineer! Why even let him on the show if you don't like engineers?!
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Real men are too busy getting real jobs.
I don't think there's any particular reason or it's anything to do with gender, as such. It's coincidence and I don't think it would be as remarked upon, the other way around. And I don't think it says or means anything at all about men. |
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I know Chris got to the final last year, but on the whole they seem either weak and pushovers such as Tom and Leon or too much the other way such as Jim.
Most of the male candidates this year have been pretty appaling. Just as well it is not a public vote though ![]() |
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I don't think there's any particular reason or it's anything to do with gender, as such. It's coincidence and I don't think it would be as remarked upon, the other way around.
I think someone would have had a 'quiet word' with LAS before he got to a 5-2 ratio. And I can see no reason why it cannot be a 5-1 ratio after next week.
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Real men are too busy getting real jobs.
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I don't think it would be allowed to happen the other way round.
I think someone would have had a 'quiet word' with LAS before he got to a 5-2 ratio. And I can see no reason why it cannot be a 5-1 ratio after next week. ![]() |
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I disagree because I wouldn't have thought it would be allowed either way around, if that was true, because there would be some controversy either way.
Think of all the modern adverts that you've seen where a man does something stupid or ineptly and a woman turns up to save the day. Now try and think of one where a woman is the numpty and a man saves the day. (You may sometimes see old adverts from the 50's and 60's were women were patronised in the most excruciating way. )
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Real men are too busy getting real jobs.
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I don't think it would be allowed to happen the other way round.
I think someone would have had a 'quiet word' with LAS before he got to a 5-2 ratio. And I can see no reason why it cannot be a 5-1 ratio after next week. ![]() |
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Ironic, that in the last two years, last year in particular, the girls have been somewhat annihilated!
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Has anyone ever worked out the total number of women on winnings teams versus the total number of men
I think women might have the best of it but it would be interesting |
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Funny enough I thought that in the early series the women always won the early contests - then it started to reverse itself.
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There is a definite asymmetry between what is allowed (and I don't mean by any formal rules) when it comes to men and women on TV.
Think of all the modern adverts that you've seen where a man does something stupid or ineptly and a woman turns up to save the day. Now try and think of one where a woman is the numpty and a man saves the day. (You may sometimes see old adverts from the 50's and 60's were women were patronised in the most excruciating way. )It's the old 'that person is a bad driver because she's a woman' and 'that man is a bad driver because he's a bad driver' sort of confirmation bias. And that's why people tend to say things if there are more women than men in these sort of shows (or panels) but don't, if they are more men. |
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There is a definite asymmetry between what is allowed (and I don't mean by any formal rules) when it comes to men and women on TV.
Think of all the modern adverts that you've seen where a man does something stupid or ineptly and a woman turns up to save the day. Now try and think of one where a woman is the numpty and a man saves the day. (You may sometimes see old adverts from the 50's and 60's were women were patronised in the most excruciating way. ) |
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This is going to be a controversial thing to say but I think it's because men and women have different strengths. Women are a lot psycho-socially smarter than men whereas men are better at in-depth technical roles like I.T. and engineering. However I believe psychology and sociology is more important in business as business is about people. If you know how to sell to people, whether you are selling products, people, or ideas, you will excel in business.
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