The Kat Slater/Jessie Wallace Appreciation Thread (Part 31)

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MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Northern-Girl84:
“I'm liking the games he's playing with her but not with the way he's involving both Kat and Alfie in them which only gets worse this week. And to be honest his torture is nothing to what that woman put Kat through for months on end knowing she could put a stop to it at any given moment. Yet Jack has forgotten all of this and acting as if Ronnie did nothing wrong - what she did was just cruel, sick and twisted. Yes Ronnie lost a baby but she had no reason to inflict that same kind of pain on someone who classed her as a friend. Also she won't just be down for stealing the baby but there is also kidnapping abduction and fraud against her so how Jack thought he could get her off with a couple of nice statements and an expensive QC I don't know but this EE la la land

Also Ronnie did sleep with a lot of blokes just to try and get pregnant and broke up a marriage which was all before the swap But I wouldn't wish Michael trying to snog them on anyone he's vile and reminds me of a vampire with the mind games he plays and then there's the way he crawled on her bed that gave me the creeps. But yes I agree Ronnie has kissed worse than him before, but then again didn't he kiss her on Tanya's Hen night ”

No I don't like the fact that Michael has included Kat and Alfie in these games either, I'd rather he kept them out of it. I heard that when Ronnie leaves Michael's obsession turns to someone else, I hope its not Kat but I have a feeling it will either be Kat or Tommy

BIB: I think he's vile too, but I wish all bad things on Ronnie so I couldn't care less what he does to her. I have zero sypmathy, empathy, compassion or understanding for her so she can go to hell as far as I care. I hope Michael does his worst but she'll be gone by Thursday so its a shame he won't get to.

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess:
“I have children and I never did that is disgusting. Children absorb so much information then us adults do. There is no way I would have sex in the same room as my child. Imagine if you turn your head (as we all move about alot when we have sex) and you see your baby looking at you! Seriously! Or they gurgle happily I reckon my hubby would never be able to perform again after that. That is just a no go. So I think its pretty gross but no more gross then Stacey and Ryan doing exactly the same thing. Actually the majority of my friends do not do it either, you go into another room and have your intercom for the emergencies.”

I think that's a pretty extreme reaction to be honest. I'm talking about a baby in their cot asleep, they don't know what you're doing. I've never done it but I know plenty who have. I don't personally think I would do it myself as I wouldn't be able to relax or enjoy it but the way your going on its as if they're committing a crime.

Like I said the baby doesn't know what sex is and in Tommy's case it seemed like he was asleep anyway. I don't think its a big deal really. It would be different if the baby was older, could stand up, talk a little then yeah I would be all for not doing it in the presence of a sleeping child.

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Kat Down: 1 HOUR 55 MINUTES

Northern-Girl84

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“I think that's a pretty extreme reaction to be honest. I'm talking about a baby in their cot asleep, they don't know what you're doing. I've never done it but I know plenty who have. I don't personally think I would do it myself as I wouldn't be able to relax or enjoy it but the way your going on its as if they're committing a crime. Like I said the baby doesn't know what sex is and in Tommy's case it seemed like he was asleep anyway. I don't think its a big deal really. It would be different if the baby was older, could stand up, talk a little then yeah I would be all for not doing it in the presence of a sleeping child.”

Plus we don't even know if Tommy was in his cot he could easily have been with Eddie, Jean or Mo - don't forget Eddie went in their room on the Tuesday and took Tommy off their hands when he wouldn't stop crying so that could have happened again

Also I have also finally clicked onto who Michael reminds me of I'm not sure if any of you ladies used to watch Buffy well in Season 4 there was an episode called Hush with these really creepy men who stole human hearts and voices hell they even dress like Michael - here's a pic of one

http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/hush~4.htm

Kat Down: 50 minutes

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Northern-Girl84:
“Plus we don't even know if Tommy was in his cot he could easily have been with Eddie, Jean or Mo - don't forget Eddie went in their room on the Tuesday and took Tommy off their hands when he wouldn't stop crying so that could have happened again

Also I have also finally clicked onto who Michael reminds me of I'm not sure if any of you ladies used to watch Buffy well in Season 4 there was an episode called Hush with these really creepy men who stole human hearts and voices hell they even dress like Michael - here's a pic of one

http://www.thedougjonesexperience.com/hush~4.htm

Kat Down: 50 minutes ”

I honestly don't know why my post from like 3 days ago was picked up on when I actually said I thought it was a bit "eeewww" the thought's of Tommy in there while Kalfie were having sex. I don't think personally there is anything hugely wrong with what they did. Their 6 month old baby was sleeping soundly in his cot and wouldn't know what they were doing anyway and I'm sure if he woke they would stop. And to say no one they know has done that, I'm sorry but that's just naivety. I'm sure there are lots of couples who do it but they wouldn't openly admit it especially if the reaction I got was similar to the one they'd receive.

BIB: OMFG hahahahahahahahahahaha Claire he is the spitting image of Michael, he could be his twin

He really does look like him though LOL.

Kat Down: 40 minutes

I've also decided to do a Ronnie Down but a countdown to when she gets her miserable face off my screen. Ronnie Down: 2 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes or 71 hours WHOOP!!!!

littlevoice

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“I've also decided to do a Ronnie Down but a countdown to when she gets her miserable face off my screen. Ronnie Down: 2 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes or 71 hours WHOOP!!!! ”

this deserves its own thread. ive never been so happy to see this countdown

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by littlevoice:
“this deserves its own thread. ive never been so happy to see this countdown ”

LOL I would have started one but you know the Ronnie maniacs might get their knickers in a twist. Its bad enough saying anything bad about Saint Veronica in here without getting jumped on.......I'd probably be throttled if I put in a thread of its own

I'm glad you appreciate the countdown though Essex, that mean's my job is done

Roll on Thursday!!!!

littlevoice

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“LOL I would have started one but you know the Ronnie maniacs might get their knickers in a twist. Its bad enough saying anything bad about Saint Veronica in here without getting jumped on.......I'd probably be throttled if I put in a thread of its own

I'm glad you appreciate the countdown though Essex, that mean's my job is done Roll on Thursday!!!!”

im actually so excited to see her leave

and i cant wait for us to post about it and for our bff to jump in on our posts.. aww excitement hahaaa

Northern-Girl84

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“I honestly don't know why my post from like 3 days ago was picked up on when I actually said I thought it was a bit "eeewww" the thought's of Tommy in there while Kalfie were having sex. I don't think personally there is anything hugely wrong with what they did. Their 6 month old baby was sleeping soundly in his cot and wouldn't know what they were doing anyway and I'm sure if he woke they would stop. And to say no one they know has done that, I'm sorry but that's just naivety. I'm sure there are lots of couples who do it but they wouldn't openly admit it especially if the reaction I got was similar to the one they'd receive.

BIB: OMFG hahahahahahahahahahaha Claire he is the spitting image of Michael, he could be his twin He really does look like him though LOL.

Kat Down: 40 minutes

I've also decided to do a Ronnie Down but a countdown to when she gets her miserable face off my screen. Ronnie Down: 2 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes or 71 hours WHOOP!!!! ”

See - not just me then that thinks he looks like one of them then

And like I said Mary we don't even know if Tommy was in the room but they were under the covers anyway they were hardly in full frontal view were they, yes it's wrong on so many levels when it's a child or toddler but a baby of 6 months doesn't know what sex is. It's only the same thing as having sex when pregnant and baby's have even more of a front row row seat then - they are up, close and personal to the action

Also let's not forget poor little Amy who was wide awake and did a runner from Roxy's when Michael and Roxy were getting it on and she nearly got hit by a car and last week when Amy was drawing Michael insinuated they leave her to do the dirty - that's much, much worse in my opinion.

And I like the Ronnie Down idea

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by littlevoice:
“im actually so excited to see her leave and i cant wait for us to post about it and for our bff to jump in on our posts.. aww excitement hahaaa”

Well you better get your arse in here Essex and post

I'm getting some alcohol for Thursday night and imma post my arse off in celebration

You're more than welcome to join me in my "Good Riddance Ronnie" party

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Northern-Girl84:
“See - not just me then that thinks he looks like one of them then

And like I said Mary we don't even know if Tommy was in the room but they were under the covers anyway they were hardly in full frontal view were they, yes it's wrong on so many levels when it's a child or toddler but a baby of 6 months doesn't know what sex is. It's only the same thing as having sex when pregnant and baby's have even more of a front row row seat then - they are up, close and personal to the action Also let's not forget poor little Amy who was wide awake and did a runner from Roxy's when Michael and Roxy were getting it on and she nearly got hit by a car and last week when Amy was drawing Michael insinuated they leave her to do the dirty - that's much, much worse in my opinion.

And I like the Ronnie Down idea ”

Exactly we don't know that Tommy was in the room when Kat and Alfie were having sex anyway to start with so the argument is void. And well said, a) they were under the covers anyway so he couldn't see anything and b) hello he's 6 months old he doesn't know his arse from his elbow right now

BIB: I had forgotten that, yes not to mention Amy is a toddler, she walks and talks so she could have walked in on them. WAY WORSE

Not to mention last week or the week before Roxy and Michael left her in the living room again while she was colouring to have sex. Like that's not gross and sick

Ooh yes, my Ronnie down is oooooooonnnnnnn. I hope you'll join our posting party on Thursday night too to celebrate

KarenCole

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Northern-Girl84:
“See - not just me then that thinks he looks like one of them then

And like I said Mary we don't even know if Tommy was in the room but they were under the covers anyway they were hardly in full frontal view were they, yes it's wrong on so many levels when it's a child or toddler but a baby of 6 months doesn't know what sex is. It's only the same thing as having sex when pregnant and baby's have even more of a front row row seat then - they are up, close and personal to the action Also let's not forget poor little Amy who was wide awake and did a runner from Roxy's when Michael and Roxy were getting it on and she nearly got hit by a car and last week when Amy was drawing Michael insinuated they leave her to do the dirty - that's much, much worse in my opinion.

And I like the Ronnie Down idea ”

This just made me sick in my mouth! Im currently pregnant, never thought about it like that and now I can never have sex! Lmao!!

Ash's Man

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Lauren__:
“I've decided once and for all, I just can't connect 00/05 Kat with 10/11 Kat, I just can't see them as the same character at all. 00/05 Kat is OF COURSE my ultimate fave EE character ever, I haven't really got a clue who this new Kat is and I still don't know if I like her. Okay so we've had maybe 5 ot 6 great Kat eps where I've thought YES this is my character, this is Kat Slater but when I look at 10/11 collectively I just can't see the character as the same tart with a heart who was fiercley loyal to her family and adored Alfie. Considering they've been back almost a whole year now I think it's safe to say 5 or 6 great Kat episodes is just not enough! I don't care who says people change and characters move on, no. It's a soap not real life and this "characters move on and develop" only seems to be brought up as an excuse when characters have been buggered up. Look at the likes of Dirty Den, Peggy, Dot, Pat, Frank, Sharon, some of EE's hugest icons and they remained exactly the same character from day 1 to now/their exit. Yes they faced alot of trauma and some of them became more depressed/laughed less/spend more time crying but fundementally they remained the same people with the same traits and kept the same mannerisms and personalities. That's not what's happened with Kat, she hasn't remained the same person just a little more grown up and closed off due to negative experiences, she's had a complete personality transplant and we're talking before Tommy even "died". Not only was she colder to those closest to her (Charlie/Mo/Alfie) but she actually had a nasty edge to everyone she came into contact with, let alone Alfie who she supposedly adores yet treated like a piece of shite. That's before we even get onto her mannerisms in general, everything about her was/is different, the way she talks to people, the sparkle in her eye, the giggle and the fact Kat of old did genuinely care about people around her by 02+ this Kat is selfish, rude and fairly wrapped up in herself, snapping at everyone around her whenever she feels like it. Old Kat was greatful and thankful she was alive and over the trauma and had Zoe and Alfie, this Kat came back as Alfie's biggest hater and didn't mention anyone else full stop.

I wish I could just say "well maybe when Ronnie goes.." but I'm not going to because that's what we've been saying for 10 months now. "Maybe when she settles down" "maybe when Michael leaves" "maybe when they get back in the Vic" "maybe when she finds out about Stacey/Archie" "maybe when the baby's born" "maybe when the funeral happens" "maybe when she get's tommy back" "maybe when Ronnie goes away". It's insane how wrong they've got her. Sorry to rant but I had to get it off my chest I know some of you "like" Kat at the minute, and that's fine, she's not particularly horrible right now or very dislikeable BUT once you look back at youtube clips the differences between the two characters are so blatently obvious. I don't blame Jessie as she's still an amazing actress, as we've seen from her acting throughout the swap but I do think she's lost something when it comes to playing Kat, the sparkle, she just doesn't seemed to have slipped back into the role easily or maybe it's because she was so fresh first time round and learning about her character as she went and making her into what she wanted whereas now the characters history is written and in the past and there's no time spent on character development it's all just plot driven shiz.”

Basically ALL of this. I haven't watched the show for like 2 months now maybe? I saw the ep where Janine's gran died, and that's it for the past 2 months. The number they've done on Kat's character is horrendous and I agree that Jessie's also changed. Not impressed, I was hoping I'd come into the thread and people would be saying 'YES we've had the old Kat back for a while now' but that doesn't look likely. I agree with everything you said Lauren.

Northern-Girl84

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“Exactly we don't know that Tommy was in the room when Kat and Alfie were having sex anyway to start with so the argument is void. And well said, a) they were under the covers anyway so he couldn't see anything and b) hello he's 6 months old he doesn't know his arse from his elbow right now

BIB: I had forgotten that, yes not to mention Amy is a toddler, she walks and talks so she could have walked in on them. WAY WORSE Not to mention last week or the week before Roxy and Michael left her in the living room again while she was colouring to have sex. Like that's not gross and sick

Ooh yes, my Ronnie down is oooooooonnnnnnn. I hope you'll join our posting party on Thursday night too to celebrate ”

Exactly well put Mary no baby knows what sex is and what do they think they do in Africa or other poorer nations do they go out in the bush to have sex so the kids can't see what they're doing the same applied for England when families upto 10 used to share a room - that was the norm then and there was no such thing as an intercom or did the next babies come delivered via a stork

And yes it was way worse what Michael and Roxy did and that's not the first time they've done it either. And yes I will be here Thursday

although I am looking forward to seeing Ronnie's exit I am also looking forward to Kat slapping her - that's way, way overdue

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by KarenCole:
“This just made me sick in my mouth! Im currently pregnant, never thought about it like that and now I can never have sex! Lmao!!”

OMG no waaaaayyyy, but it is kind of true if you think about it LOL

I hope you're not too early in your pregnancy because you'll have a loooooong while to wait without having sexy again

littlevoice

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“Well you better get your arse in here Essex and post I'm getting some alcohol for Thursday night and imma post my arse off in celebration You're more than welcome to join me in my "Good Riddance Ronnie" party ”

im in allll week due to me being boring and having no money. i currently have a free house and no lie, the amount of alcohol i have here is enough to put a brewery to shame. so yeah il be about. lets get this thread moving again haha

ps i hope theres a major twist and ronnie tries to commit suicide. and i know shes coming back in a year so i hope that it just puts her into a coma for a year. hm ok well maybe a coma for like a month then she goes to prison and gets beaten by butch angry mothers inside

thats the dream!!

KarenCole

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“ OMG no waaaaayyyy, but it is kind of true if you think about it LOL I hope you're not too early in your pregnancy because you'll have a loooooong while to wait without having sexy again ”

I'm just over 3 months! Serves me right for lurking your thread I guess! Lol

Oh and as far as the original post goes I think as long as your kid isnt too old it's fine it's not like tommy was sat on the bed with em and they were looking at him! Now that would be totally sick!!

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by Northern-Girl84:
“Exactly well put Mary no baby knows what sex is and what do they think they do in Africa or other poorer nations do they go out in the bush to have sex so the kids can't see what they're doing the same applied for England when families upto 10 used to share a room - that was the norm then and there was no such thing as an intercom or did the next babies come delivered via a stork

And yes it was way worse what Michael and Roxy did and that's not the first time they've done it either. And yes I will be here Thursday although I am looking forward to seeing Ronnie's exit I am also looking forward to Kat slapping her - that's way, way overdue ”

I actually never thought of that, they probably have sex outside the house in Africa? LOL I'm kidding I have no idea, but I still wouldn't like the thoughts of having sex in a room with 10 other people

But anyway sticking to the point, Tommy's a baby, we don't even know if he was in the cot and even if he was he can't sit up or talk and doesn't know what sex is so he wouldn't have had a clue what was going on. Not to mention its not like he'd remember it anyway if he saw it or that he'd be psychologically damaged by it

Ooh the famous Kat Slap will be back on Thursday too I CANNOT WAIT

I don't think we'll be surprised by her exit at all like Sam Womack said, she'll get off with it and I'm expecting her to, no surprise at all.

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by littlevoice:
“im in allll week due to me being boring and having no money. i currently have a free house and no lie, the amount of alcohol i have here is enough to put a brewery to shame. so yeah il be about. lets get this thread moving again haha

ps i hope theres a major twist and ronnie tries to commit suicide. and i know shes coming back in a year so i hope that it just puts her into a coma for a year. hm ok well maybe a coma for like a month then she goes to prison and gets beaten by butch angry mothers inside thats the dream!!”

WHOOP Kezzaboom in here drunk, it'll be like old times. I'm definitely going to join you in the drinking, I haven't touched a drink in over 3 weeks

I'm ready to break out and get sloshed! I'm all for getting the thread going, posting partaaay here we come.

Mate there's no way Ronnie is coming back after a year, I doubt she'll ever come back to EE again....at least not for a long time anyway. They're just saying that so her fans don't go berserk its like to soften the blow of her leaving. I hope she never shows her face around the Square ever again. I can't see her exit as being a real surprise actually, I think Ronnie will get off with it and just leave to save Kat and Alfie the torture of seeing her mug everyday around the Square.

MCRicken

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by KarenCole:
“I'm just over 3 months! Serves me right for lurking your thread I guess! Lol

Oh and as far as the original post goes I think as long as your kid isnt too old it's fine it's not like tommy was sat on the bed with em and they were looking at him! Now that would be totally sick!! ”

Awh congratulations on your news, I bet you're excited? Sorry your sex life's been totally ruined by us hahaha.

And I agree with you, its not like Tommy was watching his parents go at it, I really didn't see the harm either he's only a baby.

littlevoice

04-07-2011

Originally Posted by MCRicken:
“WHOOP Kezzaboom in here drunk, it'll be like old times. I'm definitely going to join you in the drinking, I haven't touched a drink in over 3 weeks I'm ready to break out and get sloshed! I'm all for getting the thread going, posting partaaay here we come.

Mate there's no way Ronnie is coming back after a year, I doubt she'll ever come back to EE again....at least not for a long time anyway. They're just saying that so her fans don't go berserk its like to soften the blow of her leaving. I hope she never shows her face around the Square ever again. I can't see her exit as being a real surprise actually, I think Ronnie will get off with it and just leave to save Kat and Alfie the torture of seeing her mug everyday around the Square.”

oh for some reason i thought it was a defo that she would be back? this makes me even happier

sammie1million

04-07-2011

I ADORE YOU!!! YES this is exactly my feelings. It actually makes me really sad how far beyond destroying her they've gone

P.S **** right off Poppy/Jodie

sammie1million

04-07-2011

Oooooh liking this Ronnie/Michael scene

littlevoice

04-07-2011

i wish poppy and jodie were in this more tonight

SteveOwen

04-07-2011

Michael is a fruitcake but some of his lines about Ronnie tonight have been spot on.

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