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Old 13-08-2013, 10:24
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The main problem with a 'this is the kind of car you should buy' show is most people only buy a car once every six or so years. At that point, they might be interested. The rest of the time, hardly anyone (in TV Audience terms) gives a damn.
Using the same analogy, the only property programmes on TV would have Phil and Kirsty swanning around 10M mansions.

Which proves it's bunkum.
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Old 13-08-2013, 11:27
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All have eventually been cancelled because of lack of audience interest. Fifth Gear survives only because it's now on a channel that thinks 50,00 viewers is a good night's work after even Channel 5 didn't think it got enough viewers.
I quite liked the car reviews on Fifth Gear, it was the bits with Plato racing around a track that bored me to tears on that show, which began to happen nearly every week.
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Old 15-08-2013, 16:16
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Jeremy and his lady petrol...

I wonder when they go out to film the Xmas special (if there is one this year). I hope those at TG HQ manage to edit it in time for Christmas.
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Old 15-08-2013, 23:26
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Using the same analogy, the only property programmes on TV would have Phil and Kirsty swanning around 10M mansions.
Which proves it's bunkum.
I dunno if you watch them, but they pretty much are only about Phil and Kirsty swanning around mansions. Last time I was forced to watch a few of them, there wasn't a house in them at any point that had a price tag less than 500K. For a large portion of the population, that's an utterly ludicrous price to pay for a property, a price they could never even begin to afford.

As far as I remember, property shows devolve down into two sorts : 'Look at this ludicrous house you could never afford' and 'look at this house that's an absolute wreck and watch how this couple make an arse of doing it up'. That exactly mimics two of the standard tropes of current Top Gear - 'Look at this ludicrous car you could never afford' and 'look at these cars that are an absolute wreck and watch how the three stooges then proceed to wreck them while attempting to repair them and doing challenges'. That's basically about 3/4 of current Top Gear, right there.

A 'practical' property show in the same vein as the proposed 'practical' Top Gear would be 'look at this three bed semi in Dulwich that's a bit tired, has been on the market for 18 months and that the owner of is willing to listen to reasonable offers on'. Not an obvious ratings grabber, is it?

Property shows are an obvious example of something called 'aspirational television'. They're all about showing people things they desire but can't afford, things they aspire to own. In other words, the exact opposite of 'practical Top Gear'. I actually really hope nobody aspires to own a Skoda Octavia.
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Old 16-08-2013, 02:30
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Do they never do a Best of Top Gear anymore after the series finishes?
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Old 16-08-2013, 06:29
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I dunno if you watch them, but they pretty much are only about Phil and Kirsty swanning around mansions. Last time I was forced to watch a few of them, there wasn't a house in them at any point that had a price tag less than 500K. For a large portion of the population, that's an utterly ludicrous price to pay for a property, a price they could never even begin to afford.

As far as I remember, property shows devolve down into two sorts : 'Look at this ludicrous house you could never afford' and 'look at this house that's an absolute wreck and watch how this couple make an arse of doing it up'. That exactly mimics two of the standard tropes of current Top Gear - 'Look at this ludicrous car you could never afford' and 'look at these cars that are an absolute wreck and watch how the three stooges then proceed to wreck them while attempting to repair them and doing challenges'. That's basically about 3/4 of current Top Gear, right there.

A 'practical' property show in the same vein as the proposed 'practical' Top Gear would be 'look at this three bed semi in Dulwich that's a bit tired, has been on the market for 18 months and that the owner of is willing to listen to reasonable offers on'. Not an obvious ratings grabber, is it?

Property shows are an obvious example of something called 'aspirational television'. They're all about showing people things they desire but can't afford, things they aspire to own. In other words, the exact opposite of 'practical Top Gear'. I actually really hope nobody aspires to own a Skoda Octavia.
Don't know why I feel the need to butt into a debate on Phil & Kirsty but what you have written is cobblers. 500,000+ properties are the exception on there from what I've seen over the years.

They've been down my street for god's sake, and aspirational it is not
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Old 16-08-2013, 09:49
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Do they never do a Best of Top Gear anymore after the series finishes?
Seemingly not.
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Old 16-08-2013, 14:47
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What are your thoughts on a Top Gear video game?

Would love to drive the P45 and the Hovervan.
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Old 14-11-2013, 15:06
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Will there be an xmas special this year?
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Old 14-11-2013, 15:22
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Will there be an xmas special this year?
Looks like the Christmas special this year will be in Myanmar.

http://www.topgearbox.com/2013/news/...ings-spoilers/
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Old 14-11-2013, 16:33
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Looks like the Christmas special this year will be in Myanmar.

http://www.topgearbox.com/2013/news/...ings-spoilers/
But will the Charismas special actually air at Christmas, or in February like last years one!
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Old 18-01-2014, 19:20
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Just seen the first trailer for the new series.

http://transmission.blogs.topgear.co...21-of-top-gear


A poster on that site reckons 2nd Feb for the new series
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:56
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Bump.....
New Series of the most entertaining programme on British tv starts at 8pm tonight. Saw the spectacular live show in the Glssgow Hydro the other week - certainly whetted my appetite......
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:16
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WOW!! just 2 hours to go and no one has posted complaining about it being childish and a waste of their licence fee yet.

Thank goodness it's back
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:43
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Can't wait!!! Looks like one of the "buy an old car" challenges tonight, usually the best
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:45
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Can't wait!!! Looks like one of the "buy an old car" challenges tonight, usually the best
Yes, the 243 variants of the same idea have all been highlights for me too
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:53
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Looking forward to it

First we'll get a here's what's coming up this series cut to a 30 second segment with about 50 clips of different cars and the presenters shouting and screaming.


I was expecting a race between them but from the post above it's going to be a buy and old car challenge.




btw, I am a fan of the show
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:56
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So, what time do the people that hate the show get here? You know, the ones that watch every single episode just to see how bad it apparently is?
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Old 02-02-2014, 18:58
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Ye Olde Hot Hatches!

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Old 02-02-2014, 19:06
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So, what time do the people that hate the show get here? You know, the ones that watch every single episode just to see how bad it apparently is?
Haha, soon...

Best thing on the BBC by a country mile
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:41
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WOW!! just 2 hours to go and no one has posted complaining about it being childish and a waste of their licence fee yet.

Thank goodness it's back
I give it until 20:15 ish before someone says that they have not laughed once and turned off.
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:43
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Looking forward to Stuart Heritages asshat review in the Guardian tomorrow! That'll be catnip to the metrosexuals.
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:59
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It's nearly time.
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Old 02-02-2014, 20:01
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It's on!
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Old 02-02-2014, 20:04
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James's shirt (studio one) is a bit small for him.
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