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Tomorrow's Zoe/Susan argument...
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Paul Wilson
28-06-2011
Related content from Digital Spy:

'Apprentice' Susan Ma: 'Zoe is bitchy and backstabbing'

Which side are you on? It may have been hyped up a tad by the producers, but it seems this one's been on the cards from the get go.
meglosmurmurs
28-06-2011
Seems a bit churlish to pick a side before we actually see their latest battle, having said that, unless Zoe mends her ways and becomes a new Mother Teresa I think my support will be for Susan.
Haruhion
28-06-2011
Call me Mr Moral if you must but I'm not on any side until I know why it happened, how it happened, and how they responded to it. Even then, there's probably more than one way I'd feel about it rather than simply "X is right" or "Y is right".
whoyouarexo
28-06-2011
In arguments Zoe comes across as a monotone, belittling, narcissistic bully , so chances are I will side with Susan!
Takae
28-06-2011
Based on the track record of Zoe and Susan's disputes between each other last few episodes, I'll probably side with Susan.

It's clear that Zoe finds Susan really irritating. She'll probably be set off by something Susan said or did that she'd have otherwise tolerated if it was said or done by someone else.
Leatherface!!!
28-06-2011
Neither, fire them both for being childish
bargepole
28-06-2011
Originally Posted by Takae:
“...It's clear that Zoe finds Susan really irritating. ...”

It's clear that Zoe, and all the other candidates, and most of the TV audience, find Susan really irritating.
Elan Morin
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Takae:
“Based on the track record of Zoe and Susan's disputes between each other last few episodes, I'll probably side with Susan.

It's clear that Zoe finds Susan really irritating. She'll probably be set off by something Susan said or did that she'd have otherwise tolerated if it was said or done by someone else.”

zoe is just a waste of space. The dull monotone voice. The passive agressive personality. seriously, in the last 7 weeks of watching the show, i have never seen a single iota of positivity from her.either she's crying or raling off negative vibes.

Zoe reminds me about an ex colleague. down to the very T. She is used to gossip, bitch and backstab people. Everytime i see zoe on i am reminded of her. She has acted completely unprofessional throughout the series in regards to susan. Even Edna caught on to that. And that is saying something.


Which begs the question? what the **** is she doing on the show? more importantly how the **** did she get through? We all knew the series was getting diluted as the years went by but holy hell, the producers must be drunk when selecting the candidates.
wildbenji64
29-06-2011
Going by the previous arguments, most likely Zoe, but both are as bad as each other. I'll have to see it first before really picking a side though.
Jepson
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by bargepole:
“It's clear that Zoe, and all the other candidates, and most of the TV audience, find Susan really irritating.”

Clear to you.

I'd love to know on what basis you make the claim that 'most' of the TV audience think that.

There are at least as many people here defending Susan as attacking her. That is just one self selecting sample. What the general TV audience think is unknown.
Cressida
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Paul Wilson:
“Which side are you on? It may have been hyped up a tad by the producers, but it seems this one's been on the cards from the get go.”

Last time I looked at The Apprentice website the preview clip showed Tom with Melody in the car speaking over the phone to Susan and Zoe.

Must be I'm the only to have no knowledge of any argument.
batman.
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by bargepole:
“It's clear that Zoe, and all the other candidates, and most of the TV audience, find Susan really irritating.”

Lord Sugar clearly doesn't though, and that is the one person who's opinion actually counts.
capekdeh
29-06-2011
I think the ones who are irritating are both Susan's haters and Susan's fans in this forum.

From what I see, Zoe & Susan are capable of working together professionally. Zoe is particularly closed with Helen. Meanwhile Susan is closed with Felicity, Natasha and to an extent Edna (it's obvious from the way Edna and Felicity commented on Susan in The Apprentice You're Fired programme & newspaper articles).

Zoe & Susan have worked together in almost every tasks (with the exception of task 3). No wonder, they feel like they have enough with each other. No other candidates has experienced this (working with the same candidate for 9 tasks).
Cherrybomber
29-06-2011
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Cherrybomber
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by bargepole:
“It's clear that Zoe, and all the other candidates, and most of the TV audience, find Susan really irritating.”


The YBF audience were very favourable to Susan.
Not sure where you've done your market research, perhaps Paris
Andy Joannou
29-06-2011
It's very fun to watch at least! How many times do we think we'll hear 'That's so unfair!' tonight?
Jepson
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Andy Joannou:
“It's very fun to watch at least! How many times do we think we'll hear 'That's so unfair!' tonight?”

That depends on whether the editors drag it up AGAIN from the two instances where she is known to have uttered it.

Looking at the link that has been added to the first post in this thread, I must say that I'm surprised that Susan put herself forward as PM again. Two weeks on the trot seems a bit excessive.
syncage
29-06-2011
It's funny how despite numerous mixing up of the teams susan & zoe have always been on the same team, which I'm sure is down to the producers...

even more strange is that more often than not they are in the same sub-team, surely the producers can't influence how PM's divide their team?
Jepson
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by syncage:
“even more strange is that more often than not they are in the same sub-team, surely the producers can't influence how PM's divide their team?”

I think they can do whatever they like.

We have heard from previous candidates of several occasions when they suddenly introduced new rules in the middle of a task.
spannerandpony
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“The YBF audience were very favourable to Susan.
Not sure where you've done your market research, perhaps Paris ”

Outside a Metro station, by any chance?

My gut feeling tells me that I'll probably be on Susan's side, but I'll reserve judgement until this evening!
Cherrybomber
29-06-2011
Im not sure that we arent being given a wrong steer.
I suspect the real battle tonight with be between Zoe and Melody. With Zoe and Susan doing no more that spitting at each other they way they do.

But they are sure to win so, that means Jim, Natasha or Helen to go. It must be Natasha.
Takae
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“I suspect the real battle tonight with be between Zoe and Melody.”

Ooh I can't wait.

Edited: Sorry for not putting in a spoiler. I didn't realise it's from next week's episode --
Spoiler
I still want to know who was napping in the taxi when the sub-team tried to get in touch by phone. Any guesses?


Quote:
“ But they are sure to win so, that means Jim, Natasha or Helen to go. It must be Natasha.”

Helen is a lucky omen, isn't she? If she did somehow end up in a losing team, I want Jim gone.
Glorfindel
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Takae:
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Spoiler
Ooh I can't wait. I still want to know who was napping in the taxi when the sub-team tried to get in touch by phone. Any guesses?

”

I believe that's next week!
Takae
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Glorfindel:
“I believe that's next week!”

Sorry and thank you for pointing that out.
Glorfindel
29-06-2011
Originally Posted by Takae:
“Sorry and thank you for pointing that out.”

No worries - I just know that some people hate knowing ANY spoilers!
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