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Old 29-06-2011, 15:25
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201009116020894

"Matthew Raymond-Barker, from Mitcham in Surrey, came out on top in Tuesday's final in front of millions of television viewers."
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Old 29-06-2011, 15:50
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Ugh. Marina should have won IMO.
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Old 29-06-2011, 16:07
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Horses for courses.
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Old 29-06-2011, 18:21
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Well done to him
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Old 29-06-2011, 18:29
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Well done to him Nice to see a Brit winning the French version.
I did think Marina would win, but still pleased that he did win
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Old 29-06-2011, 18:32
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMH0pbqlqM
Here he is winning.
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Old 29-06-2011, 19:26
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Well done Matthew. Really weird - I studied for a year in Toulouse and I had a dream once that I entered Star Academy whilst I was there. He's kinda fulfilled my dream haha
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Old 29-06-2011, 19:30
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I'm glad Matthew won, because he seems like a nice guy who's down to earth and modest. However, the ratings for the show have been pretty awful (not even 2.4m for the final). The test will be how his winner's song does when it's released on Saturday.
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Old 29-06-2011, 19:40
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Ugh, I wanted Marina D'Amico to win
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Old 30-06-2011, 02:06
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I think this article helps show why the French people voted for him.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13956826
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Old 30-06-2011, 02:12
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I think this article helps show why the French people voted for him.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13956826
not really. i`m not being funny, he is very average. even he cant shed any light on his win!
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Old 30-06-2011, 02:24
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Have to agree with gpk, Marina was a much better singer and I felt like she was better at capturing the emotion of songs. If any of the Boys was to win, I would have said Raphael Herreras who was much better than Matthew and Florian.
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Old 30-06-2011, 04:46
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not really. i`m not being funny, he is very average. even he cant shed any light on his win!
Sorry, the point was that it was not as simple as having the best technical voice; "I'm not the best singer in the world, believe me, but I just try really hard". People voted for him because they could relate to his enthusiasm, honesty and general likeability as well as being able to sing a bit. It's no coincidence that the majority of candidates who were eliminated each week all said that they wanted to see him win. Anyway, he clearly has something about him to have won it and I wish him good luck for the future....
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Old 30-06-2011, 04:57
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Sorry, the point was that it was not as simple as having the best technical voice; "I'm not the best singer in the world, believe me, but I just try really hard". People voted for him because they could relate to his enthusiasm, honesty and general likeability as well as being able to sing a bit. It's no coincidence that the majority of candidates who were eliminated each week all said that they wanted to see him win. Anyway, he clearly has something about him to have won it and I wish him good luck for the future....
i can relate to that, to a degree. however, i just don't see any spark personally. an average voice with a nice personality. to make it in this industry you need a little more than that. look at our home grown winners that failed to set the charts alight!

i wish him well, all the same.
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Old 30-06-2011, 06:20
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i can relate to that, to a degree. however, i just don't see any spark personally. an average voice with a nice personality. to make it in this industry you need a little more than that. look at our home grown winners that failed to set the charts alight!

i wish him well, all the same.

May be France will not dump on their Winner. Hopefully Matthew will get fair promotion. Or may be it is like UK XF and the runner up gets more support.

Good luck to him any way. At the very least his experience has gained him better fluency in French.
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Old 30-06-2011, 10:08
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In a world where Michelle McManus can win anything other than a jam eating contest, this seems more of an actual achievement than a mystery.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:34
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only 3 million viewers............bless the French
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:23
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He was clearly not expected to win, as Marina (the runner up) will release a single the same day as him. I thought the UK version was bad for signing semi-finalists, but at least the winner gets their (brief) moment to shine without any competition.

There is a slight backlash against him winning now in France. Some people have criticised his vocal ability and are saying that his emotions on the show (which made him popular) were fake. He seemed genuine to me and he's admitted that he's going to have to work hard and put out a decent album if he wants a career. On the other hand he's a self admitted big fan of the UK show, so maybe he's seen where a few tears and false modesty can get you.
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:36
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only 3 million viewers............bless the French
that is a pretty low figure!
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Old 01-04-2013, 21:40
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I thought I would revive this thread as I came across an article about Matthew the other day. He got dropped by Sony in January. Here's a quick summary of his post X-Factor career for anyone who's interested:

- Winner's song got to #94 in French charts.
- Two follow-up singles fail to make the charts.
- Rants on Twitter in autumn 2012 about Sony for giving his album a digital only release and says they never wanted him to win and have never supported him. Later apologises.
- Album released in November 2012 and sells around a 1,000 copies.

He did a TV interview recently in France where he said he had no choice but to move back to London and live in his parents' house as he had no money. He even had to pay to travel to the interview out of his own pocket. It's sad, I don't think a UK winner of the show has ever flopped so bad.
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Old 01-04-2013, 21:43
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That's too bad. At least he can't blame Simon Cowell.
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Old 01-04-2013, 23:50
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I'm french and he actually made the news for selling only 6 copies of his album. Gold is 50k copies in french.
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Old 02-04-2013, 00:01
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I thought I would revive this thread as I came across an article about Matthew the other day. He got dropped by Sony in January. Here's a quick summary of his post X-Factor career for anyone who's interested:

- Winner's song got to #94 in French charts.
- Two follow-up singles fail to make the charts.
- Rants on Twitter in autumn 2012 about Sony for giving his album a digital only release and says they never wanted him to win and have never supported him. Later apologises.
- Album released in November 2012 and sells around a 1,000 copies.

He did a TV interview recently in France where he said he had no choice but to move back to London and live in his parents' house as he had no money. He even had to pay to travel to the interview out of his own pocket. It's sad, I don't think a UK winner of the show has ever flopped so bad.
at my old posts, but none of this is much of a surprise to be honest. the majority of the uk winners have flopped, been dropped or underperformed to a certain extent and unfortunately the people that vote for these winners don't necessarily buy the subsequent music.

i felt that he was particularly weak in all honesty and it didn't surprise me that he failed at the first hurdle here in the uk. having said all that, the story is still sad and i do feel a bit disappointed for him.
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:22
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I'm french and he actually made the news for selling only 6 copies of his album. Gold is 50k copies in french.
what a loser... who even voted?
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:28
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what a loser... who even voted?
Basically, girls/young women who thought a British guy speaking French with a strong English accent was cute. To be fair, the show was a big flop and so he never had a big platform to launch a career anyway. Only about 2 million watched the final despite Beyonce and Bruno Mars giving performances.

The judges and the producers were also to blame. In the beginning the judges criticised him, but then he cried one week after one of them (rightly) pointed out he wasn't a very good singer. After that they were nice to him. Also, it was very close between him and the runner-up in the final voting and so the producers could have stopped him winning. If he was on the UK show, he would have got a backdrop with devil's eyes for his final performance and maybe a leaked story to the tabloids about him trying to strangle someone.

Anyway, I think this performance sums up what the problem was:

http://youtu.be/JaBnl5H4_kI
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