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Old 04-07-2011, 18:41
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I think a break would do it good.
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Old 04-07-2011, 18:42
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Not really much to say about Sundays TV but it was a little better than Saturdays.
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Old 04-07-2011, 18:50
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I very much doubt PTOS will return. I can understand 3 million for a filler type reality show like All At Sea, but not something that has a high budget and is supposed to be a peak time hit. It does seem that ITV1 haven't had much luck with their reality shows apart from DOI and IAC in recent years: Marco bombed completely last year and looked like it was filmed on a mobile phone, 71 Degrees North never caught the public's imagination, Ladette to Lady went on two series longer than it should have and died in a graveyard slot, and there are the real stinkers from the mid noughties.
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Old 04-07-2011, 18:56
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Originally Posted by Fudd
Looking at those figures ITV1 may as well stick You've Been Framed in the heart of primetime! I think Penn & Teller would do better in an earlier slot.
I'd say the opposite myself - it would do better in a later slot IMO.
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:04
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I very much doubt PTOS will return. I can understand 3 million for a filler type reality show like All At Sea, but not something that has a high budget and is supposed to be a peak time hit. It does seem that ITV1 haven't had much luck with their reality shows apart from DOI and IAC in recent years: Marco bombed completely last year and looked like it was filmed on a mobile phone, 71 Degrees North never caught the public's imagination, Ladette to Lady went on two series longer than it should have and died in a graveyard slot, and there are the real stinkers from the mid noughties.
Agreed.

I think it is going to take something really revolutionary now for a reality show to take off. The format seems to be exhausted, and although people may be put in different settings, singing different music genres, doing different "tasks" there is an underlying similarity there, which I think the public are growing bored of.
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:06
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I'd say the opposite myself - it would do better in a later slot IMO.
Channel 4 used to show their programmes in a later slot. It was either 10.30pm or 11.05pm on Fridays.
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:18
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is this typical of Daybreaks high standards?
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:18
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I'd say the opposite myself - it would do better in a later slot IMO.
With a strong lead in, I agree, but not with the current programming.
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:20
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Light entertainment shows are very hit and miss, advertisers must be up in arms about 'Marriage Ref' and even 'Penn & Teller Fool Us'. ITV could have a 2 hour Saturday night 'Summertime Special' (not that name obviously) type studio based show - hosted by Bradley Walsh(?) - some singing acts (not everything has to be TXF/BGT talent), some stand up and magic slots (from Fool US?), a dance act, impressionists - the list is endless. It could be recorded months ahead of time - even trialling 3 shows would be worth a try.

What I do know is that current Saturday night shows are not suitable for prime-time, the 'Marriage Ref' is tea-time standard, whereas Fool Us is 3 'BGT auditionee quality' magic acts being nodded at by Penn & Teller for one hour. They may as well run TV Burp Gold / Harry Potter Films / the last few Bonds movies or even risk a comedy film on a Saturday night. BBC1 is equally stuck in the doldrums, Casualty started when I was a teenager, which is a 1/4 century ago. The Lee Mack show is cringeworthy (maybe ironically but still.) It is very easy for us to say that it's not good enough - viewers are voting with their remotes though.
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Light entertainment shows are very hit and miss, advertisers must be up in arms about 'Marriage Ref' and even 'Penn & Teller Fool Us'. ITV could have a 2 hour Saturday night 'Summertime Special' (not that name obviously) type studio based show - hosted by Bradley Walsh(?) - some singing acts (not everything has to be TXF/BGT talent), some stand up and magic slots (from Fool US?), a dance act, impressionists - the list is endless. It could be recorded months ahead of time - even trialling 3 shows would be worth a try.

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Id have

7.00 Famliy Fortunes

With real families again
7.45 Bradley Walsh's Big Summer Show
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9.00 Fire in the City
Bit Like Londons Burning
10.00 Piers Morgan
with three guests including a Singer
11.00 News
11.15 FILM
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:38
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Light entertainment shows are very hit and miss, advertisers must be up in arms about 'Marriage Ref' and even 'Penn & Teller Fool Us'. ITV could have a 2 hour Saturday night 'Summertime Special' (not that name obviously) type studio based show - hosted by Bradley Walsh(?) - some singing acts (not everything has to be TXF/BGT talent), some stand up and magic slots (from Fool US?), a dance act, impressionists - the list is endless. It could be recorded months ahead of time - even trialling 3 shows would be worth a try.

What I do know is that current Saturday night shows are not suitable for prime-time, the 'Marriage Ref' is tea-time standard, whereas Fool Us is 3 'BGT auditionee quality' magic acts being nodded at by Penn & Teller for one hour. They may as well run TV Burp Gold / Harry Potter Films / the last few Bonds movies or even risk a comedy film on a Saturday night. BBC1 is equally stuck in the doldrums, Casualty started when I was a teenager, which is a 1/4 century ago. The Lee Mack show is cringeworthy (maybe ironically but still.) It is very easy for us to say that it's not good enough - viewers are voting with their remotes though.
ITV tried a variety show with For One Night Only. Less said the better, maybe?
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:50
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I just realise this P&T flop is the first ITV flop for Johnathan Ross.
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:01
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I just realise this P&T flop is the first ITV flop for Johnathan Ross.
I guess that is the most surprising element of the low / incredibly low figures we are seeing for Fool Us and The Marriage Ref. They both feature two major ITV talents in Ross and O'Leary. The same week as O'Grady fell close to record low figures as well.

They are making Ant and Dec's lower rating formats like Push The Button (which got a lot of stick around these parts) look like ratings gold!
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:09
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Sensational week for Film4 in the officials. 5 movies over 700k with Taken over 1m including +1. Audience share hit 1.7% across the week - I think a new record for the channel - same week last year: 0.9%.

www.barb.co.uk

EDIT: it had 1.7% at Christmas/New Year time too, so not a new record, but a strong performance nonetheless and a big improvement year-on-year.
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:16
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I just realise this P&T flop is the first ITV flop for Johnathan Ross.
One episode on a very warm day against other programmes that didn't do much better, if better at all, makes it a flop now does it?
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:17
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One episode on a very warm day against other programmes that didn't do much better, if better at all, makes it a flop now does it?
2.9m (without +1) against mediocre opposition in the 8pm hour isn't great to be honest.
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:17
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What would be the hook to cause people to come in from their gardens and watch that?

At the moment it is just a title!
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:20
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One episode on a very warm day against other programmes that didn't do much better, if better at all, makes it a flop now does it?
This argument falls down when the stats tell us the programme was also down 3.5 share points on its launch two weeks ago.
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Old 04-07-2011, 20:55
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I guess that is the most surprising element of the low / incredibly low figures we are seeing for Fool Us and The Marriage Ref. They both feature two major ITV talents in Ross and O'Leary. The same week as O'Grady fell close to record low figures as well.

They are making Ant and Dec's lower rating formats like Push The Button (which got a lot of stick around these parts) look like ratings gold!
ITV most wonder what it is that Syco TV has, that they no longer ever, worryingly its looking like Sing If You Can, is the new hit of 2011 for them.
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Old 04-07-2011, 21:08
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Light entertainment shows are very hit and miss, advertisers must be up in arms about 'Marriage Ref' and even 'Penn & Teller Fool Us'. ITV could have a 2 hour Saturday night 'Summertime Special' (not that name obviously) type studio based show - hosted by Bradley Walsh(?) - some singing acts (not everything has to be TXF/BGT talent), some stand up and magic slots (from Fool US?), a dance act, impressionists - the list is endless. It could be recorded months ahead of time - even trialling 3 shows would be worth a try.
Well I think we'd put that idea in the miss category.

Sensational week for Film4 in the officials. 5 movies over 700k with Taken over 1m including +1. Audience share hit 1.7% across the week - I think a new record for the channel - same week last year: 0.9%.

www.barb.co.uk

EDIT: it had 1.7% at Christmas/New Year time too, so not a new record, but a strong performance nonetheless and a big improvement year-on-year.
Huge improvement year on year, but not too surprising considering what is on offer on the main channels at the moment. Indeed perhaps the digital channels here would be wise to follow the example of the US cable channels and put a little bit more effort in over the summer when the main channels are taking a backseat.

I don't know if the info is readily available, but it would be interesting to see a week by week (or month by month would do) break down of the total number of people watching TV in the 9pm hour every week - and just see how many fewer viewers are truly around in the summer.
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Old 04-07-2011, 21:49
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Dancc are you expecting CSI Miami to return on 26th, or will Big Brother get in the way?
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Old 04-07-2011, 21:51
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I don't know if the info is readily available, but it would be interesting to see a week by week (or month by month would do) break down of the total number of people watching TV in the 9pm hour every week - and just see how many fewer viewers are truly around in the summer.
Not 9pm hour, but there is this that BARB do: http://www.barb.co.uk/graph/weeklyReach?_s=4
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From the last thread

remember, NBC are #1 in the morning, evening news and late night
ABC have now overtaken NBC at 11.35pm with Nightline
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...y-sweep_b69478
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