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The Ratings Thread (Part 22)
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Saturn
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“Theres always Big Brother if times get hard.

The irony in all of this is if she quit LW to go back to the SCD tour and not the other way around, she would have ended up getting Claudia's job on It Takes Two. The BBC would have effectively kept her in employment until she decided to quit TV/radio, but the best she can hope for at ITV is a guest stint on This Morning.”

I don't actually believe this. She's not suited to It Takes Two at all.
derek500
11-07-2011
Anyone know why The Guardian stopped doing their 'overnight audience figures' reports?
Charnham
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“I don't actually believe this. She's not suited to It Takes Two at all.”

both her and Channel 5 could do worse than having her host it. Both may also not be able to do better.
satman5000
11-07-2011
A few from last night: (source: Ch4 Sales)

Channel 4
17.15: Deal or no Deal - 1.44m
19.00: Place in the Sun - 1.06m
20.00: Marley & Me - 3.21m

Watch
20.00: Dynamo Magician Impossible - 320k
fmradiotuner1
11-07-2011
That is really good for Marley & Me on Channel 4.
Dancc
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Anyone know why The Guardian stopped doing their 'overnight audience figures' reports?”

Their initial excuse for scaling back the reports from detailed analysis to just a few headline figures a la Attentional was that they weren't allowed to publish as much detail as they had previously. This probably sent traffic to these reports down, and now they only bother to write them for big broadcasting events. Oh well, c'est la vie. Media Guardian's reporting is laced with bias anyway. Much prefer Digital Spy's take on proceedings, which is pretty comprehensive and makes MG pretty much redundant.
Grenade
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“I don't actually believe this. She's not suited to It Takes Two at all.”

The BBC like to keep things in house and promote accordingly (e.g. Claudia doing the results show). Do you think Zoe Ball would have got the job had she not presented the tour?

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“both her and Channel 5 could do worse than having her host it. Both may also not be able to do better.”

It was said as an off the cuff comment but you're right. Channel 5's best prospect without resorting to z listers and ex housemates is Emma Willis who is just Davina without any authority and will get walked allover by ex housemates and the crowd.
Saturn
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“The BBC like to keep things in house and promote accordingly (e.g. Claudia doing the results show). Do you think Zoe Ball would have got the job had she not presented the tour?
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They would have gone for someone inside the SCD circle. Maybe even Kaplinsky.
Dancc
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“That is really good for Marley & Me on Channel 4.”

Agreed. Very impressive in the demos with 1.16m 16-34s watching. Always interesting to look at those 16-34 shares for the commercial networks, the following below for the full day Sunday:

1st: Channel 4 total * 11.5%
2nd: Channel 5 5.7%
3rd: ITV2 total * 4.7%
4th: ITV1 4.4%


Channel 5's relatively large share suggests Matilda was a strong performer.
Charnham
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1:
“That is really good for Marley & Me on Channel 4.”

your right, its very good consider some of the poor reviews of it, if the movie is the one I think it is.

Originally Posted by Grenade:
“It was said as an off the cuff comment but you're right.”

I figured it was meant as off the cuff, but Channel 5s Big Brother is about her level now.

Cant see her getting a 4th ITV show, Loose Women strikes me as a dumping placeITV use for failed female presenters, to be axed from that will not read well on anyones CV.

I dont even know who "Emma Willis" is, but ill look her up now.

To be fair to Emma, looking at her wikipedia I can see why she might be considerd for the hosting job by Channel 5.
derek500
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Their initial excuse for scaling back the reports from detailed analysis to just a few headline figures a la Attentional was that they weren't allowed to publish as much detail as they had previously. This probably sent traffic to these reports down, and now they only bother to write them for big broadcasting events. Oh well, c'est la vie. Media Guardian's reporting is laced with bias anyway. Much prefer Digital Spy's take on proceedings, which is pretty comprehensive and makes MG pretty much redundant.”

I notice Leigh Holmwood who was on MG and filed some of the overnight reports has now gone to The Sun as Deputy TV Editor.
Dancc
11-07-2011
BBC One
19:00 Fake or Fortune? 3.66m (17.7%)
20:00 Countryfile 5.43m (23.4%)
21:00 The World's Most Expensive Paintings 2.62m (10.8%)
22:25 Seve: The Legend 2.14m (14.4%)

BBC Two
18:00 Athletics: British Grand Prix 1.8m inc. HD
20:00 Top Gear 5.5m inc. HD
21:00 Coast 2.4m inc. HD
22:00 Mock The Week [rpt] 1.4m (6.7%)

ITV1
19:00 The Royal 4.13m (22.4%)
20:00 Popstar to Operastar: Performances 3.45m (13.9%)
21:00 Law and Order: UK 5.85m (24.2%)
22:00 Popstar to Operastar: Results 4.16m (19.6%)

Channel 4
19:00 A Place in the Sun: Home or Away 0.95m (4.6%)
20:00 Marley and Me 2.76m (11.3%)
22:15 In Her Shoes 0.78m (7.3%)

Channel 5
18:30 The Legend of Zorro 1.03m (4.7%)
21:00 Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 1.07m (5.6%)

BBC Three
22:00 Family Guy 1.0m (4.5%)

More4
21:00 Grand Designs Australia 0.49m inc. +1

Sky1
21:00 Hawaii Five-O 0.45m (1.9%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 18.8% (+1: 0.6%)
BBC One: 15.9%
BBC Two: 11.2%
Channel 4: 8.8% (+1: 1.4%)
Channel 5: 4.8%

Source: Digital Spy.
Glenn A
11-07-2011
PTOS recovered slightly, but I don't think ITV1 will renew it as it has dipped below 3 million at times. However, it was a brave attempt to show opera on a mass audience channel and had it worked, then it would have been a huge success for ITV.
Charnham
11-07-2011
BBC One would look good if only The World's Most Expensive Paintings was closer to 4 million. Channel 5 will be happy with both movies over 1 million.
D.M.N.
11-07-2011
I think all the broadcasters' will be pleased with last night, despite BBC1 nearly beaten by BBC2 from 8pm to 10pm.
Grenade
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“PTOS recovered slightly, but I don't think ITV1 will renew it as it has dipped below 3 million at times. However, it was a brave attempt to show opera on a mass audience channel and had it worked, then it would have been a huge success for ITV.”

Whilst it hasn't exactly set the ratings on fire, ITV could do much worse than commission another series and stick it on a Tuesday where it could deliver a solid 3-4m for 6 weeks. The first series didn't rate great either, but its a very cheap show.
Glenn A
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by grahamzxy:
“Sorting out ITV primetime would be a full-time job for anyone, your schedule would work with some tweaks though. The 6th Emmerdale could be dropped, 5 episodes is more than enough - less need for storylines to be strung out. The Champions League is not on every week. The Eastenders clash would always have to be avoided though.

ITV lose so many viewers once 10pm comes around, News at 10 is so low compared to BBC1 - it may as well be shunted to 11pm for a 15 minutes bulletin. After 10.30 ITV seems to be in the doldrums. They do have some big hitters in primetime, but ITV are looking to fill from 7.00-10.00 - that is 1095 hours of programming per year, which must be daunting for them.

Just to put into perspective - ITV has 156 hours of Emmerdale and 130 hours of Coronation Street per year - 26% of (7.00pm-10.00pm) 7 day broadcast time or 36.7% of (7.00-10.00pm) weekday broadcast time.”

That sixth Emmerdale episode has to go. It just seems to stick out in the schedules, same as Coronation St at 8.30 on a Thursdays. I think the plan to move Coronation ST to Wednesdays again will work, as ITV1 will have two guaranteed hits that night rather than the ratings falling off a cliff after Emmerdale.
ITV1 is on the way back, though. Some of their factual programmes wouldn't be out of place on BBC Two, their drama hits are mostly good and they have returning hits like TXF and IACGMOOH.
Charnham
11-07-2011
I dont think ITV should bring back Popstar to Operastar, its pretty much ITVs So You Think You Can Dance.

Did we ever get a rating for Oceans 12?
D.M.N.
11-07-2011
Stunning ratings for the F1 over the weekend, thanks to Broadcast for 2011's ratings:

British Grand Prix - Ratings Roundup
2008
Qualifying - 1.88m
Race - 4.36m

2009
Qualifying - 3.2m
Race - 4.17m

2010
Qualifying - 2.81m (31.7%)
Race - 4.69m (40.4%)
* 15-minute peak: 6.7m (51.6%)

2011
Qualifying - 2.79m (30.1%)
Race - 4.89m (43.1%)
* highest British Grand Prix figure since 1999
* 2.22m (26.56%) at 12:10
* 5.70m (51.39%) at 13:00
* 6.70m (51.45%) at 14:30 [peak]

Another super rating for the British Grand Prix, peak is down on last year as the 2011 peak is a 5-minute peak, however the average is up.

I also consider this year's figure more impressive considering last year would have had a lot of sporting fans watching during the day due to the World Cup Final in the evening.
Glenn A
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I dont think ITV should bring back Popstar to Operastar, its pretty much ITVs So You Think You Can Dance.

Did we ever get a rating for Oceans 12?”

It hasn't set the ratings alight after its second chance. Although the concept was good, people did see it as the usual reality show way for half forgotten people to try and become famous again. I think the whole reality thing is becoming exhausted now and, apart from a few established hits like IACGMOOH and The Apprentice, it seems to be more of a digital genre.
However, don't know where Dancc is, our Channel 5 champion is, but wouldn't be a big coup for Channel 5 to buy up the Next Top Model franchise.
Dancc
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It hasn't set the ratings alight after its second chance. Although the concept was good, people did see it as the usual reality show way for half forgotten people to try and become famous again. I think the whole reality thing is becoming exhausted now and, apart from a few established hits like IACGMOOH and The Apprentice, it seems to be more of a digital genre.
However, don't know where Dancc is, our Channel 5 champion is, but wouldn't be a big coup for Channel 5 to buy up the Next Top Model franchise.”



No, it would not. Did you not see the ratings for the launch of Britain and Ireland's Top Model last week? At a guess C5 are only interested in shows which might pull in a good audience, however much it may displease you Big Brother is capable of doing so.
ronant
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Stunning ratings for the F1 over the weekend, thanks to Broadcast for 2011's ratings:

British Grand Prix - Ratings Roundup
2008
Qualifying - 1.88m
Race - 4.36m

2009
Qualifying - 3.2m
Race - 4.17m

2010
Qualifying - 2.81m (31.7%)
Race - 4.69m (40.4%)
* 15-minute peak: 6.7m (51.6%)

2011
Qualifying - 2.79m (30.1%)
Race - 4.89m (43.1%)
* highest British Grand Prix figure since 1999
* 2.22m (26.56%) at 12:10
* 5.70m (51.39%) at 13:00
* 6.70m (51.45%) at 14:30 [peak]

Another super rating for the British Grand Prix, peak is down on last year as the 2011 peak is a 5-minute peak, however the average is up.

I also consider this year's figure more impressive considering last year would have had a lot of sporting fans watching during the day due to the World Cup Final in the evening.”

Are those averages for the whole programme? The post-race/quali stuff went on for a very long time this weekend (quali till 3) so that would of pushed down the averages, making the figures even more impressive.
Glenn A
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“

No, it would not. Did you not see the ratings for the launch of Britain and Ireland's Top Model last week? At a guess C5 are only interested in shows which might pull in a good audience, however much it may displease you Big Brother is capable of doing so.”

I always thought this was a success in digital terms but if it's fading away, then 5 should avoid it or get the usual accusations of buying in unwanted shows.
However, here is a real curved ball for you, Dancc. Suppose BB defies all expectations and after a well liked Celeb version, the civilian version shoots up the ratings as 5 invigorate the veteran show. This could be the making of 5 as a top channel and the money made could see them buy up more sport, more top films and some drama. I'm not as you know a fan, well more of an ex fan as it was good up to BB4 and CBB5, but there is life in the format if 5 handle BB properly.
D.M.N.
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Are those averages for the whole programme? The post-race/quali stuff went on for a very long time this weekend (quali till 3) so that would of pushed down the averages, making the figures even more impressive.”

Yep, they're entire programme averages.
Charnham
11-07-2011
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“However, don't know where Dancc is, our Channel 5 champion is, but wouldn't be a big coup for Channel 5 to buy up the Next Top Model franchise.”

Top Model only seems like the kind of show that might be worth Channel 5 of ITV 2 taking a look at, im not convinced that it should make the leap to a Freeview channel.

That said, I would have said the same about The Biggest Loser before its move to ITV 1, however obviously it hasnt set the ratings alight.
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