Many of those in that list are repeats of relatively low-rated programmes though which instantly skew more positive AI wise than bigger-rated non-repeat programming. I bet the list would be quite different if you'd strip out the repeats.


The ITV soaps usually have AIs of about 82. EastEnders a touch lower at about 80.

Well a couple of weeks ago they had 2 of their Tuesday night shows in the Top 10, so by this logic they should be making more shows like the Tuesday schedule

[quote=RobbieSykes123;51444787]You can't compare My Family with The Royal. The former has a more sophisticated audience (or did) who would be aware of its axing and also the declining quality. The Royal and Heartbeat are different - Sunday night nursing home mush for those who like their veg overboiled. You could show the same episode week after week and a large number of the audience wouldn't notice.

You really don't have a clue about ITV'S Audience. I am 18 and i like the Royal. Also I like the X Factor. Just becuase i watch ITV and the Royal does not mean i am dim and old.

The full soap ratings for week ending July 10:

# Soap - Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu / Thu, Fri = Average
1. Hollyoaks - 85.0, 83.6, 87.2, 84.2, 83.8 = 84.8
2. Home & Away (6pm) - 83.7, 83.3, 83.1, 83.4, 84.8 = 83.7
3. Emmerdale - 83.0, 82.9, 83.3, 82.4, 83.2, 83.3 = 83.0
4. Doctors - 86.0, 82.3, 82.0, 80.9, 82.6 = 82.8
5. Coronation Street - 82.5, 82.7, 82.5, 83.1, 82.6 = 82.7
6. EastEnders - 79.7, 79.4, 82.4, 80.9 = 80.6
7. Neighbours (5:30pm) - 78.3, 80.5, 80.9, 79.2, 78.3 = 79.4

I bet the lottery shows only rate so low because those rating the shows never win.

Ah ok, thanks. Dancc, if possible, would you be able to remove the repeats and just put the new programming in the top 20 AIs? If it's too much trouble, don't worry about it.


Thanks again. Not bad figures - I guess the AIs will really show if any programme is in crisis or not.

ITV will love Daybreak - it's keeping their Saturday night schedule out of the bottom 10.

Thanks for posting. Maybe thre AIs for Hollyoaks explains why the fugures have been looking slightly healthier of late.

My list is all encompassing. The top 10 ITV1 programmes (new or otherwise) were:

1. Law & Order: UK 87.2
2. ITV News at Ten & Weather (Fri) 87.0
3. Midsomer Murders (Tue) 86.8
4. Lewis 86.5
5. Midsomer Murders (Thu) 86.0
6. Countrywise 85.7
7. Popstar to Operastar: The Final 85.6
8. Sextuplets - The Little Lambs 85.6
9. Kate in Canada 85.5
10. Popstar to Operastar: The Results 85.4

Amazing to see Only Fools is still loved after 30 years.

Thanks. It shows the same pattern as the main 20 list in that lower rated programmes (in general) retain a higher AI than higher rated programming (eg. the soaps). I'm glad to see Law and Order topping the chart though - it's good to see British drama at the top.

You're welcome. Only if it's any good. Not all British drama is fantastic, and some I think it's fair to say is dire. (not saying that is true of Law & Order: UK, from what I saw on Sunday it looked very well made but I just couldn't get into it, felt like a step down from the US procedurals I'm used to and I don't rate Bradley Walsh period)

Bradley Walsh as an actor doesn't always compute. I suppose good drama tends to get good AIs and bad drama tends to get bad AIs.

I was the same over Channel 5's Minder when they cast Shane Richie, another actor I don't rate. I don't bother with these shows if they have poor male leads.

I think that was a big casting mistake which meant Minder was always going to start on the back foot. Law and Order's casting may have been slightly risky, but I guess, looking at the AIs and ratings it's worked. As long as it doesn't get pitched against anything too big on the other side.

True enough.

Tomorrow's telly is really strong - Golf Open Final, Finding Nemo, Countryfile, Top Gear, Coast, The Apprentice Final, Law & Order: UK, Australia and more. Something for everyone really. We'll have plenty to discuss on Monday.

And because they're so horribly produced.

I hate Bradley Walsh in everything else he does but I think he is just brilliant in L&O. A very brave and wise casting decision.

In terms of non-repeat programmes in primetime (which start after 7pm and end before 11pm), the list would be:

1. Luther (BBC One), Tue 05 Jul, 21:00 90.1
2. 24 Hours in A&E (Channel 4), Wed 06 Jul, 21:00 90.0
3. History Cold Case (BBC Two), Thu 07 Jul, 21:00 88.7
4. Afghanistan: The Unknown Country (BBC Two), Wed 06 Jul, 21:00 87.8
5. Law and Order (Channel 5), Fri 08 Jul, 22:00 87.7
6. The Apprentice (BBC One), Wed 06 Jul, 21:00 87.5
7. Waterloo Road (BBC One), Wed 06 Jul, 20:00 87.4
8. Law & Order: UK (ITV1), Sun 10 Jul, 21:00 87.2
9. Casualty (BBC One), Sat 9 Jul, 21:00 87.0
10. ITV News at Ten & Weather (ITV1), Fri 8 Jul 87.0
11. Top Gear (BBC Two), Sun 10 Jul 86.8
12. Channel 4 News (Channel 4), Thu 7 Jul 86.7
13. Coast (BBC Two), Sun 10 Jul 86.5
14. Cowboy Builders (Channel 5), Thu 07 Jul 86.5
15. Made in Britain (BBC Two), Mon 04 Jul 86.3
16. Police Interceptors (Channel 5), Mon 04 Jul 86.2
17. The Apprentice: You're Fired (BBC Two), Wed 06 Jul 86.1
18. University Challenge (BBC Two), Mon 04 Jul 86.1
19. Fake or Fortune? (BBC One), Sun 10 Jul 85.9
20. Countrywise (ITV1), Tue 05 Jul 85.7

I classified Desperate Housewives as a repeat as it'd already been shown on E4. Not sure if C5's L&O was a repeat or not (I'd call it a repeat even if it had been shown on another channel), but I gave it the benefit of the doubt. So from that list, it's broken down as: BBC One: 5, BBC Two: 7, ITV1: 3, Channel 4: 2, Channel 5: 3.

I thank Dancc for his lists as it shows how well received repeats of some programmes are. But because CSI/NCIS brands are repeated so many times during a single week, it means that almost ten spots are automatically taken by them and there’s less variety in the top 20. Personally I’d prefer if each programme was limited to just one spot in the list (ideally I wouldn’t want repeats in the list at all but this is just a compromise!) like how the top 20 viewing figures lists are done so that a wider range of programmes can make the Top 20.

I don't disgregard the CSI/NCISs are very well liked shows by the way, but I think it's important differentiating between new programmes and repeats because 99 times out of 100, the AI for a repeat will be higher than the AI for that same episode the first time it was shown simply because the second time, more of the hardcore fans are watching (and voting). This skews the results and IMO, I'd consider a 87/88 AI for a new episode of a programme to be better than a 89 AI for a repeated programme so that's why I was thinking having a list of just new episodes would be a 'fairer' way of comparing different shows.

Thanks for the list, rzt.

I think both lists offer a great insight so it'd be brilliant if we could have both in the future.

EDIT: Just noticed Casualty and Waterloo Road. I didn't expect them to be that much higher than Holby City.

Shouldn't New Tricks be in there as well with 88?

That list was for the week ending Sunday 10th July, one night before New Tricks aired .

From MattJ, Only Fools and Horses official ratings for the first week they were on air:

Week - 4th to 8th July
Monday: 1.05m (19.0%) [consolidated rating; both episodes combined]
Tuesday: 1.13m (17.5%); 1.19m (18.6%)
Wednesday: 1.16m (17.0%); 1.22m (17.9%)
Thursday: 1.20m (18.0%); 1.23m (18.8%)
Friday: 1.24m (18.2%); 1.47m (21.0%)

Isnt that the age of those that enjoy that programme?

On the subject of AI, they don't really give you much info on the quality of the programme since in general only people who like a programme will continue to watch it.

For a series it's often only the first episode of a brand new series that gets a low AI, after that the haters have gone.

I think this is why one-off dramas are increasingly rare, a short series is the safer option for neurotic TV executives.

ITVs "Daybreak" is a special case all of it's own. Surely the system is being hijacked?

That would explain it!
Most of the audience is over 65 I believe. But it gets figures in the 18-49 range that some shows aimed at 18-49s would die for.

Breakfast shows are 'special' as you say, no one has a reason to go channel hopping at 7:30am so in that sense the audience nor AI will fluctuate a lot. Same with BBC Breakfast.