Problem is ITV don't commission shows these days before 6pm or after 10pm. What was the last multi part series they commissioned that was aired after 10pm on ITV1?

You'd be going back to 2007 and before News at Ten returned I think.

From Richard Osman on Twitter, regarding Pointless:

www.twitter.com/richardosman

Pointless rating here: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...6&postcount=50

Yeah its a weird one, Jo brand hosted the pilot iirc.

The Adrian Chiles' Sunday night show? But that was only a sweetner in his contract.

And more recently than that Perspectives, also on Sunday nights.

Good point. I do wonder how Marriage Ref would do in a post-X Factor slot or something.

Thing is, I think it would be better suited to ITV2 myself. Penn and Teller and Odd One In are fine, but Marriage Ref needs to be dumped.

It's 7 episodes long, already 2 episodes in and it is at 1.7m. Stick on a Doc Martin repeat or something, it would get at least ~3m I think considering the ITV3 repeats are getting ~0.8m.

in some way I guess its a worry for all the soaps, and all long running shows, what happens if a generation simply doesnt bother to get into any of the Big 3 soaps? Its not like the young generation dont have plenty of other things demanding their attention. Once people start to watch TV on the computer, or on a laptop, it reduces the chance that their young siblings or children will see it, which im sure is how many people get into soaps
Hello again, Charnham, I know Coronation St does have a bit of a hand me down nature where I live, a fair percentage of younger people watch it because their parents and grandparents did, but the days when the big three soaps were must see television are over. Except for the diehards, a lot of people can skip a week's worth of soaps and not worry- although the amount of omnibuses and repeat showings mean they're easier to catch up on.

Thanks. Fairly okay for Pointless - on a par with Weakest Link I think? Interesting to see BBC Two's late afternoon ratings falling off a cliff.

It used to be an incredibly strong part of their schedule, getting the best ratings of the day - but yesterday was a highly unimaginative, well past it's best schedule. Unfortunately I don't think they'll bother trying to improve things now, new programmes on BBC Two daytime seem to be heading for the axe entirely.

Pointless won its timeslot exc. +1s. New episodes of Escape To The Country now air on BBC One too, right?

So yeah, that doesn't leave much left for BBC Two once The Weakest Link ceases production.

Just got back from a press screening of Show Me The funny, very strange show - not like I expected. It's less The X Factor for Comics and more The Apprentice for comics.

It's actually quite funny, not because of the stand up though but in the same way The Apprentice is funny. The two judges work a bit like Nick and Karen with their looks and comments from the sidelines, then there's all the awkward and cringeworthy remarks and actions and there's even a sterotypical "token character" (jim, stuart baggs, etc)

There's even a little "boardroom" type segment at the end

The actual stand up only lasts for a tiny part of the show, the majority of it is taken up with the contestants going on tasks "with hilarious results"

also: Not a family show, which surprised me, a lot of swearing and 'adult humour'

That must of been Weakest Link's lowest ever audience yesterday? Apart from Flog It BBC2 really haven't got a lot. Who knows maybe they have something up their sleeve for the autumn but i doubt that.

It's a shame as it used to be the strongest part of the schedule but is now not valued at all.

I fancied a blast at the RPG!

Another show that has been commissioned for the 9pm slot, yet shouldn't be in that slot?

Excellent rating for New Tricks - highest rated show of the day which is brilliant stuff Does anyone know how Only Fools and Horses did in the daytime?

New Tricks goes from strength to strength. Not many dramas can say they are still getting massive ratings after seven years. I bet ITV would kill to get their hands on this show as it has a high ABC1 rating.

If Sky could bid on TV Burp when its contract with ITV was up for renewal, could ITV not do the same with New Tricks, when its contract with the BBC is up for renewal?

Awesome figure for New Tricks. Last night's overnight was already higher than any of the official ratings for last year's series.

Just dont know why it does so much better in the summer.

Top rating for New Tricks, which actually persuaded me to watch it for the very first time on iPlayer. Cracking rating for News at Ten also. Reasonable numbers for BBC2 - didn't realise University Challenge rated so well, Antiques Master did okay also. Frankie Howerd got almost almost 3m at 8.00pm for a compilation of clips - up to 40 years old on ITV1, against Eastenders also.

Strong ratings for C4 from 8.00-10.00pm, but Sirens dropped big time - I watched the first epsiode but missed last night's another one to see on catch-up. Finally World's Craziest Fools beating Eastenders on BBC3, Mr T ideal as a host - a lot of previous shows depended on Youtube clips, but I had only seen one or two before from last night.The show does make the BBC3 top 10 on occasion, not quite Family Guy numbers but impressive.

Networks poaching programmes is not common here, in the US if a network drops a show they do sometimes end up on a rival network. New Tricks is produced by Wall to Wall - part of Shed Media, they have a good realtionship with BBC1, they also make Who Do You Think You Are? and The Apprentice. They have had dealings with ITV1 the most recent was You Don't Know You Are Born in 2007.

I would say 100% New Tricks is safe on BBC1, moving channels mid series causes repeat rights issues and DVD sales rights issues.

it may not be common, but I see no legal reason to prevent it. You talk about Sheds good relationship with the BBC, I suspect that kind of thing is what keeps shows moving channels like footballers move teams, wanting to keep that good relationship.

I also think that viewers wont take to it, and any change will in their opinion ruin the show.

Highest Rated:
1. NCIS Channel 5, Sat 02 Jul, 18:10 92.3
2. Baby Hospital ITV1, Tue 28 Jun, 21:00 91.8
3. CSI: New York Channel 5, Sat 02 Jul, 19:55 90.7
4. CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Channel 5, Sat 02 Jul, 20:50 90.7
5. Wimbledon 2011 BBC Two, Wed 29 Jun, 13:00 90.6
6. NCIS Channel 5, Wed 29 Jun, 21:00 90.3
7. 24 Hours in A&E Channel 4, Wed 29 Jun, 21:00 89.7
8. Scott & Bailey ITV1, Sun 03 Jul, 21:00 89.6
9. Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Channel 5, Sat 02 Jul, 21:50 89.4
10. CSI: Miami Channel 5, Thu 30 Jun, 22:55 89.3

Lowest Rated:
1. Daybreak ITV1, Tue 28 Jun, 06:00 67
2. Daybreak ITV1, Thu 30 Jun, 06:00 67
3. Dinner Date ITV1, Tue 28 Jun, 17:00 68
4. Daybreak ITV1, Wed 29 Jun, 06:00 68
5. Daybreak ITV1, Mon 27 Jun, 06:00 69

scores out of 100.

Come on Baby Hospital, you can do it! Your mere presence on this list must be causing agony to some folks

PS why are there only 5 in the lower rated shows this week? Just curious!

The Teatime Battle
BBC1
17:15 - Pointless Celebrities: 1.8m (15.3%)

BBC2
17:15 - Escape to the Country: 0.7m (6.3%)

ITV1
17:00 - Dinner Date: 1.1m (9.8%)
* +1: 100k

Channel 4
17:00 - Four in a Bed: 1.6m (15.7%)
* +1: 190k
17:30 - Come Dine with Me: 1.7m (12.8%)
* +1: ~100k

Five
17:00 - 5 News at 5: 0.6m (5.6%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.1m (8.5%)

So in order, it is about:

1) BBC1
2) C4
3) ITV1
4) C5
5) BBC2

I can't see Dinner Date remaining in the teatime slot after this series though, it'll probably be moved back to 12:30pm with Loose Women going on a break whenever it is on like what happened last year during Summer.

For what its worth George, if you went from 6 to 10, it would go:

6. Daybreak ITV1, Fri 01 Jul, 06:00 70.6
7. Dinner Date ITV1, Thu 30 Jun, 17:00 72.1
8. Miami Vice ITV1, Fri 01 Jul, 22:35 72.3
9. The Marriage Ref ITV1, Sat 02 Jul, 21:00 72.9
10. Dinner Date ITV1, Wed 29 Jun, 17:00 73.8

So the entire bottom 10 is ITV1. Saying that This Morning maybe somewhere in there except it 'failed to record an AI' for the entire of last week.

Even in the US, the shows only tend to move if the studio is linked to another network - like Medium which was dropped by NBC but picked up by CBS because CBS Studios made the show and wanted to drag it up to the level required to sell it for syndicatiob.

The Apprentice is made by Talkback Thames. Shed Media make quite a lot for BBC1 - New Tricks, Who Do You Think You Are, Waterloo Road, Garrow's Law and now The Voice plus some short run documentary series. For ITV, they make Long Lost Family and Shed Productions used to make quite a lot of drama (Footballers Wives, Bad Girls and the ill fated Rock Rivals).