Wonder how panorama special will do tonight?

It's more that they brought it back this year, the format is great but it became tired and a year's rest would have helped rejuvenate the show.

It would never happen but it would be interesting them adopt the US format which has no phone voting and discussion of nomination. That would be an interesting twist as it would change the dynamic of the show.

Right I'm off to do something uncharacteristic and watch Show Me The Funny on ITV1. See you later maybe for the Aus overnights.

Talking of 2012 (hey, if we can do Christmas schedules...) I think Channel Five should hold Big Brother back until after the Olympics have finished and run it slightly late again. I hope they have the sense to do this rather than pitching it against the rating event of the decade.

IMO C5 (and previously C4) made a big mistake getting sidetracked by the celeb version (as ITV also did with Millionaire) - the core concept works best in it's traditional mould, and just as I believe (although to be honest in hinsight) C4 should have renegotiated the last couple of years of the contract to have three slightly shorter (11 week) version of the regular BB, rather than 2 main, 2 celeb editions, I think C5 would have been better off committing to the traditional format too - not using it to get a few zelebs on the channel for a couple of weeks.


Although BBC1/ITV1 to C5 is a bigger leap, audiences for Neighbours and Home and Away nosedived when the switch was made, whilst Robot Wars (from the more comparable BBC2) didn't fair much better either. C5's current image won't help much either - it's obviously going to go for the trashy angle that actually most BB viewers didn't watch for - and it certainly won't help that the Daily Star will be the shows main cheerleader when frankly the often daily completely fictional stories the Daily Star especially made up about BB whilst it was on C4 arguably contributed to it's downfall, with barely a week going by without a fix scandal on their front pages, usually caused by just one person expressing an opinion on the Digital Spy forums - even if 30 people replied to say they were talking nonsense.


Dancc - just had to do a search to see if I could trip you up on your current praise for Big Brother - but unfortunately not - you haven't sold your soul now C5 has bought it!

Had to chuckle though at this though from this time last year:


Still can't quite believe how badly that flopped - and quite shocking to know that ITV have found something even worse for Sunday nights a year on.

Programme change tomorrow for the Murdoch, Murdoch, and Brooks show...
BBC2, 2pm to 4.30pm - The Daily Politics Special.
Sky News's coverage from 2.30pm will be commercial-free.

I'm genuinely gutted I won't be able to watch this live.

Me too, should get decent ratings.

5 out of 7 CBBs have been more successful than the summer series before it because it has wider appeal, which is why Channel 4 got sidetracked with it. If its more successful, then its the right decision.

If I remember rightly Channel 5 wanted Celebrity Big Brother long before Richard Desmond bought the channel, and it was also the one that the media were gunning for, whilst at the same time they were saying the main series has no legs. Had Desmond not bought Channel 5, I do believe that Channel 5 would have still picked up Big Brother but they would have ran 2 celebrity shows per year instead.


Big Brother is trashy TV at its best and thats why people love it. If anyone watches Big Brother but doesn't like the trashy aspect then they're watching the wrong show, it hasn't been an issue before and it certainly won't be an issue now its on Channel 5. Its most successful series and most notorious moments have all come from trashy moments.

E4 would be mad not to, at this stage I would expect them to be on "for life" contracts with C4.


what madness, that would only make the sitution worse.

As for the C4 purchases, ill be keeping an eye on how the shows go in the US, but I could see myself watching Allen Gregory, I enjoyed the trailor for it that I saw. The show im must looking forward to is NBCs "Awake", and if im feeling a need for girls in air hostess uniforms, Pan Am may well tempt me.

Let's Do Lunch... with Gino & Mel

Just spotted that Torchwood is being repeated tonight at 11:20pm on BBC2, was that always a planned repeat slot for it?

It's in the Radio Times and it's a 55 minute slot (reference to debate last week on this thread about its running time).

Does anyone know how the Womens world cup final rated in Germany? The figures for the group/knockout stages have been incredible for Womens football!

Just watched Show Me The Funny. I really can't see this one taking off. I think it'll get c3.5m tonight but I won't be surprised if it's below 3m soon. It wasn't that it was a bad show because it wasn't but it was poorly edited and doesn't really strike me as Monday 9pm material on ITV1. There's potential there but the first half hour probably put quite a few off and whilst the second half was better it felt too rushed after the overlong first part of the show.

Despite the out-of-the-way slot, the BBC have done a trailer for Sugartown. It looks very similar to Candy Cabs and we know what a load of **** that was, so I reckon the duff slot is fully deserved.

Candy Cabs
Sugartown
BBC1 comedy-drama can seriously rot your teeth.

Classy stuff bringing up one of my past misfires. I admit my gut feeling on Don't Stop Believing was wrong. But my comments were made pre-broadcast, and I did revise my opinion having watched the show. Clearly there were issues with regard to the standard of the talent on offer, and in hindsight perhaps it's USP based around the whole Glee hype was too weak for it to ever become a big ratings hit. But, you know, I still maintain 1.54m for the launch was OK - it went downhill from there because the show wasn't up to par in certain respects. Personally though I think So You Think You Can Dance, Popstar to Operastar and Famous & Fearless have been just as big flops for their respective channels than Don't Stop Believing was for Channel 5. But it was pretty embarrassing for them as they made such a big deal out of it with the huge promotion and shorts scheduled through the day, for ultimately little reward. At least they can be safe in the knowledge they did all they could for it, I don't think they possibly could have done any more, but if the show wasn't up to much then the figures were only going to go one way. The ratings for the launch at least suggest a shiny floor entertainment show could work on 5, but Don't Stop Believing wasn't strong enough, and that ultimately is why it failed.

You know it must be bad when it's gone in the slot where Outcasts went to die.

But it's still pretty bizarre that it has gone straight to a crap slot when the BBC are airing repeats elsewhere in the primetime schedule. Candy Cabs lost a lot of viewers across its 3 episodes but it at least started well and AFAIK all episodes won their timeslot at 9pm.

Really bizarre. Even if it is an absolute stinker it's a complete waste to air it in that slot. It's only 3 episodes long so I don't see why they couldn't put it at 9pm. It would have probably got a decent launch audience and even if it did drop over 3 episodes it surely couldn't have done that badly. To air it at 10:25pm when, as you say, they have a repeat in primetime is a pretty poor show really.

This is what I dont get, people who seemingly care about what the papers write. People have mistrusted the papers, especially the tabloids, for years and with the ongoing scandals, their reputation has never been lower. As you say, people will watch what they like.

So many people on this thread got annoyed at the paper that criticised Corrie's ratings. Why get so bothered? Its not like everyone will suddenly stop watching. If anything the added publicity may have boosted Corrie with viewers tunung in to see if the quality was as bad as the paper was making out.

talking of

Deadline Hollywood


I think MLS may have it wrong with mens teams, maybe it should focus on the womens game, it will also give the new Miss Harper 7 Beckham something to aim for in life.

I think there have been one or two past BBC One dramas starting out in a 10.35pm slot on weeknights. I think there was a romantic six-parter played out on Thursdays at 10.35pm during the summer one year: 2001 or 2002 or 2003, maybe.

Steve Williams will probably be able to tell us.

Yeah, I really don't get the rationale. Talk about killing a show off at birth. I can't see it doing much more than about 2m there.


Completely agree. I also think those involved with the show should have just rose above it and turned a blind eye instead of very publicly stepping in to defend the show which really wasn't necessary.

I do half wonder whether it was a publicity stunt BY Coronation Street to get viewers to tune in to see if it was awful.

Charlie Sheen's latest project is a TV series based loosely on the Adam Sandler movie Anger Management. Sounds interesting. No network confirmed yet.

http://news.yahoo.com/charlie-sheen-...175630135.html