As expected for BBC1, but I expected Lewis to be over 4m with no Apprentice. I guess there's quite a bit of a crossover audience with Sherlock, which is why Ch4 benefited. 24 Hours has been a huge success. It's proved itself under tough competition and it's managed to hold a steady audience over a long time.

Everything else pretty much as expected. Ch5 just above 1m, but they really need a big programme in the middle of primetime. When NCIS is in repeat mode, Wednesdays are quite poor. Hopefully BB will provide a boost.

I totally agree, this week half of what I've watched has been recorded over the last few weeks.

The Killing double episode on Channel 4
Luther final episode from BBC1
Couple of films from Sky Indie.
These days, I record nearly everything and watch when I want to.
The only thing I have to watch Live is The Apprentice.

I do wonder how a Big Brother launch would do on a night like last night? In my opinion it would win the night, even on Channel 5 with BBC1 and ITV1 in repeat mode. Okay, it wouldn't get ~5m, but I could still see 4/4.5m on a night like last night.

I hope it doesn't launch on a Thursday considering that night is drama and soap heavy, Big Brother would get lost in the schedule.

With Sky boxes now having 500gb and 1tb HDD's there's obviously lots of 'old' programmes being watched weeks and months after transmission.

I suppose it's good for Sky, as if you're watching their programmes albeit weeks behind, you're not watching the free channels and denying them 'viewing share'.

I've no interest in BB but even I would have watched the launch night had it been on last night, I think Wednesday is a great idea. Thursday is probably the best weeknight for TV, so don't think it would do as well there.

Thursday would be fine as none of the dramas look to be particularly strong and are all denting eachother. There would still be plenty of viewers around for BB.

Sorry if this has already been covered, but how is Pointless doing?

was Lewis a repeat?

Yes it was.

too many repeats IMO, I was that bored I watched most of "Teen Drag Queen" on BBC 3. If ive learnt nothing else, its that having fat parents does not mean you yourself will be fat.

Don't you have a PVR? Is free TV so limited in choice?

I never have enough time to catch up with all the stuff on my Sky+.

No one gets the 'hidden' data other than knowing it was 'uncoded playback' and even then, they do not know what that is, what channel, programme etc. The current set up is partly a relfection on what is the standard which is a 7 day consolidated window (which is what commercial impacts are traded on) and secondly a reflection on what BARB can reasonably measure.
BARB's July bulletin gives some hints about their future developments on reporting of viewing outside of 7 days.
http://www.barb.co.uk/news/bulletins?_s=4

Last night was a dull night on TV.

Thursday is too full. I record Torchwood, The Killing, Shameless USA, United States of Tara.

I'm afraid I disagree. If you had a choice between:

a) launching against 2 new dramas on a night of 2 hours of soaps
b) launching against 2 repeats on a night of 30 minutes of soaps

Which would you choose? Surely B. After all the key word is repeat, I'm sure if there were better things on, then 5/6m would watch something else.

Surely the answer is that doing this would generate an enormous amount of extra work:

Firstly the BARB data would be announced as at present, 8 days after the week-end incorporating 7 day catch-up.

Then the following week, the data for the previous week would all have to be republished, including catch-up from 8 to 14 days.

Then after another week it would be republished again with 15 to 21 day catch-up.

How far do you go?

Each week BARB would be publishing data for the most recent week (as at present) + revisions of previously published data for several earlier weeks.

I imagine the whole thing would just not be economically viable - the additional info would not justify all of the additional costs involved.

More ratings from yesterday, first set is here:

Terrestrial
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.49m (21.0%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.37m (33.4%)
* +1: 156k (0.8%)
19:30 - The Corrie Years: 4.47m (22.88%)
* +1: 180k (0.84%)
20:00 - Lewis: 3.62m (16.9%)
* +1: 216k (1.1%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.08m (6.0%)
* +1: 143k (0.7%)
20:00 - Jo Frost: Extreme Parental Guidance: 1.92m (9.2%)
* +1: 205k (0.9%)
21:00 - 24 Hours in A&E: 2.65m (12.09%)
* +1: 297k (1.7%)
* series high
* previous high: 2.32m (9.4%)
22:00 - 8 Out Of 10 Cats Uncut: 860k (4.9%)
* +1: 214k (2.1%)

Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 855k (12.0%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.18m (8.4%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 - 18.1% (+1: 0.8%)
BBC One - 17.7%
Channel 4 - 7.6% (+1: 1%)
BBC Two - 6.5%
Channel 5 - 4.1%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked.

Multichannels
5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 448k (2.5%)

BBC Three
21:00 - Jamie: Drag Queen at 16: 809k (3.7%) inc HD
* slot average: 509k (2.09%)
22:00 - Adulthood: 822k (5.5%)
00:20 - Jamie: Drag Queen at 16: 341k (9.0%)

BBC Four
20:30 - Bristol on Film: 432k (2.0%)
21:00 - Regional TV: Life Through a Local Lens: 357k (1.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 533k (2.8%)
* +1: 163k (0.8%)
21:00 - Rude Tube: 305k (1.4%)
* +1: 177.5k (1.04%)
22:00 - Franklin & Bash: 232k (1.4%)
* +1: 109k (1.12%)

ITV2
21:00 - Benidorm: 637k (2.9%)
* +1: 197k (1.15%)

ITV4
19:00 - Tour De France 2011: 672k (3.5%)

Sky1
20:00 - The Glee Project: 244k (1.2%)
21:00 - Kylie Live in Aphrodite – les Folies: 75k (0.4%)
* slot average: 163k (0.77%)

Sources: Attentional, Broadcast, DS.

The primetime shares show how many moved to multichannel, with some strong figures around. Very good evening for BBC3, but a bad evening for Sky1. They must have expected more than 0.2m for The Glee Project.

Just to say that other PVRs are available - V+, Tivo, Freeview+, I am guessing 90% of people who record a 1 hour show choose not to watch 15-18minutes of advert breaks. 3hours of tv can be watched within 2 1/4 hours. If I were an advertiser on ITV1 for example, I would want to know 'live' viewers (ITV1 & ITV+1) so people didn't have the opportinity to skip adverts.

Low rating for Sherlock last night, thought was bound to beat Lewis, The Corrie Years did well last night.

Top 3 programmes were -

Emmerdale
BBC News at Ten
The Corrie Years

yes but I was fully up to date. Ok I have some Doctor Who on there, but ive seen them recently

Danslink What channel is United States of Tara on?

really enjoyed sherlock last night, first time that i saw it
thanks BBC for repeating it, lookin forward to next week!

thought it would have repeated higher, think BB should launch on a wednesday

RTE TWO in Ireland i'm afraid.

More soaps on the night is a good thing. Soaps get people in front of the TV en masse and especially when you have an episode of one of the big 3 airing at 8:30pm, it ensures a decent audience pool available at 9pm.

I would take your other point IF Torchwood had been a hit last week. But since it wasn't, and looks likely to tumble below 4m over the coming weeks with ITV1's drama around the 3m mark, frankly those numbers are not far off what Lewis and Sherlock got on repeat last night. So no, I don't see how a Thursday launch would be any worse than a Wednesday launch, unless Torchwood skews massively young or something. Channel 4, Big Brother's former channel lest we forget and a channel that BB viewers used to gravitate towards, is actually quite strong on Wednesdays with 24 Hours in A&E. Although that will just be finished in time for BB, we don't know what they will be replacing it with yet, whereas on Thursdays they know they've only got to worry about The Killing.

It's all much of a muchness really. Tue, Wed, Thurs - all GOOD options with ITV1 especially not really at the races. The only weeknights I'd definitely avoid would be Mon and Fri.

Obviously a big news day, but a good rating for summer for the 5pm news



Not in most of Scotland though where it was being shown for the first time

Talking of which STV will be opting out of whatever is scheduled on Sundays at 9pm by ITV from August 7th to show Series 1 of Downton Abbey, followed by showing the second series from September 18th, I presume the same date it starts on ITV1
http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/26312...tumn-schedule/

would that mean the show would get a R2 DVD release in Ireland?

Moving on, had a look at BBC Press


what do we think, is this the last episode before the summer break?

STV isnt all bad, it means I can legally watch Underbelly. I only wish ITV England viewers could get STV.

What kind of numbers are they expecting Dancc do you think? What would be good and/or acceptable? How many weeks away? They should really show it while there's so little competition, and try and secure an audience.

The 5pm News always does decently and IMO they should drop the 7pm news and maybe have the updates from 6pm onwards.

Downton Abbey should do okay on STV although what is replacing on ITV1, Im assuming Law and Order UK but wouldn't Scottish viewers with Freeview have watched it when it was repeated on ITV3?