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The Ratings Thread (Part 22)
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dean michael
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“More ratings from yesterday, first set is here:

Terrestrial
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.49m (21.0%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.37m (33.4%)
* +1: 156k (0.8%)
19:30 - The Corrie Years: 4.47m (22.88%)
* +1: 180k (0.84%)
20:00 - Lewis: 3.62m (16.9%)
* +1: 216k (1.1%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.08m (6.0%)
* +1: 143k (0.7%)
20:00 - Jo Frost: Extreme Parental Guidance: 1.92m (9.2%)
* +1: 205k (0.9%)
21:00 - 24 Hours in A&E: 2.65m (12.09%)
* +1: 297k (1.7%)
* series high
* previous high: 2.32m (9.4%)
22:00 - 8 Out Of 10 Cats Uncut: 860k (4.9%)
* +1: 214k (2.1%)

Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 855k (12.0%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.18m (8.4%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 - 18.1% (+1: 0.8%)
BBC One - 17.7%
Channel 4 - 7.6% (+1: 1%)
BBC Two - 6.5%
Channel 5 - 4.1%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked.

Multichannels
5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 448k (2.5%)

BBC Three
21:00 - Jamie: Drag Queen at 16: 809k (3.7%) inc HD
* slot average: 509k (2.09%)
22:00 - Adulthood: 822k (5.5%)
00:20 - Jamie: Drag Queen at 16: 341k (9.0%)

BBC Four
20:30 - Bristol on Film: 432k (2.0%)
21:00 - Regional TV: Life Through a Local Lens: 357k (1.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 533k (2.8%)
* +1: 163k (0.8%)
21:00 - Rude Tube: 305k (1.4%)
* +1: 177.5k (1.04%)
22:00 - Franklin & Bash: 232k (1.4%)
* +1: 109k (1.12%)

ITV2
21:00 - Benidorm: 637k (2.9%)
* +1: 197k (1.15%)

ITV4
19:00 - Tour De France 2011: 672k (3.5%)

Sky1
20:00 - The Glee Project: 244k (1.2%)
21:00 - Kylie Live in Aphrodite – les Folies: 75k (0.4%)
* slot average: 163k (0.77%)

Sources: Attentional, Broadcast, DS.

The primetime shares show how many moved to multichannel, with some strong figures around. Very good evening for BBC3, but a bad evening for Sky1. They must have expected more than 0.2m for The Glee Project.”

the rating for the TOUR DE FRANCE on itv 4 is very good.how are the ratings for the TOUR on eurosport doing?
D.M.N.
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by dean michael:
“the rating for the TOUR DE FRANCE on itv 4 is very good.how are the ratings for the TOUR on eurosport doing?”

From BARB:

04/07 - 65k
05/07 - 59k
06/07 - below 48k
07/07 - 61k (11pm repeat))
08/07 - 60k
09/07 - 60k
10/07 - 77k
Glenn A
21-07-2011
Interesting one, what kind of audience does MTV Classics get for its old videos in peak time? I bet a couple of hundred thousand viewers must be attracted to have a home disco on a Saturday night.
Brekkie
21-07-2011
So Zezi Ifore becomes the second worst presenter ever on the Big Brother payrole now C5 have made Brian Dowling the main host. The show is ****ed!

And rather annoyed to find out too Grand Designs Australia has been running on More4 on Sunday nights for a couple of weeks. Thankfully still on 4oD, but haven't seen any promos at all for it on C4, E4 or More4. So much new content seems to get lost in amongst the reruns of Come Dine with Me on More4.
C14E
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It's all about momentum; Britain's Got Talent built it's audience through momentum, and they'll be hoping Red or Black does the same thing. It's got very tough opposition with New Tricks on the Monday, though.

EDIT: Actually, it might not be too bad as Coronation Street will take the first half hour against New Tricks. EastEnders is the only major threat towards Red or Black's main show.”

It'll probably work the other way. A bit like The Apprentice in BGT week - some viewers will start watching New Tricks at 9pm, stick with it for the hour and not come back.

I think it's more likely to start big and fall back - it's going to have an XF lead-in and more hype than those shows did. So the premiere should be big.

ITV are certainly hoping it does well - particularly because it's an ITVS production. But it's a really difficult area to crack just now. The format doesn't seem to lend itself to being stripped over a week and I think the scheduling is ridiculous as well.

I think it's also one of very few new shows on ITV1 this autumn - most of their schedule will be filled by very strong returning shows. And the entertainment department could really use a hit so this might be one of very few chances they get.
Dancc
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“So Zezi Ifore becomes the second worst presenter ever on the Big Brother payrole now C5 have made Brian Dowling the main host. The show is ****ed!”

You're hoping.

Until you've seen him in the role how can you possibly comment. You can see the rationale behind it - well liked by the viewers, inside knowledge of what it's like to be in there, decent on screen presence, capable of reading an autocue, etc etc...

I am surprised though. Personally I thought Emma Willis was a shoe-in!
Grenade
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It'll probably work the other way. A bit like The Apprentice in BGT week - some viewers will start watching New Tricks at 9pm, stick with it for the hour and not come back.

I think it's more likely to start big and fall back - it's going to have an XF lead-in and more hype than those shows did. So the premiere should be big.

ITV are certainly hoping it does well - particularly because it's an ITVS production. But it's a really difficult area to crack just now. The format doesn't seem to lend itself to being stripped over a week and I think the scheduling is ridiculous as well.

I think it's also one of very few new shows on ITV1 this autumn - most of their schedule will be filled by very strong returning shows. And the entertainment department could really use a hit so this might be one of very few chances they get.”

ITV need to be careful not to burn the programme out straight away and limit its audience like Channel 4 did with Million Pound Drop.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“You're hoping.

Until you've seen him in the role how can you possibly comment. You can see the rationale behind it - well liked by the viewers, inside knowledge of what it's like to be in there, decent on screen presence, capable of reading an autocue, etc etc...

I am surprised though. Personally I thought Emma Willis was a shoe-in!”

Apparently they're both doing it but obviously Brian is the main one to be reported by the press. Both Brian's and Emma's voices are apparently on the advert, and I can't see Emma's voice being on there if shes only doing BBLB. We'll find out for sure at midnight. I'm still holding out that Emma will be the leading host and Brian will be a sidekick.
Fudd
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by C14E:
“It'll probably work the other way. A bit like The Apprentice in BGT week - some viewers will start watching New Tricks at 9pm, stick with it for the hour and not come back.

I think it's more likely to start big and fall back - it's going to have an XF lead-in and more hype than those shows did. So the premiere should be big.

ITV are certainly hoping it does well - particularly because it's an ITVS production. But it's a really difficult area to crack just now. The format doesn't seem to lend itself to being stripped over a week and I think the scheduling is ridiculous as well.

I think it's also one of very few new shows on ITV1 this autumn - most of their schedule will be filled by very strong returning shows. And the entertainment department could really use a hit so this might be one of very few chances they get.”

Is it just one week stripped? I can see the logic behind it. Saturday night will be key; it needs to use The X Factor lead in right in order to sustain itself across the week.
Dancc
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Grenade:
“Apparently they're both doing it but obviously Brian is the main one to be reported by the press. Both Brian's and Emma's voices are apparently on the advert, and I can't see Emma's voice being on there if shes only doing BBLB. We'll find out for sure at midnight. I'm still holding out that Emma will be the leading host and Brian will be a sidekick.”

Yes, I think it would be better to have them both involved. I like the idea of two presenters, and there could be an interesting dynamic there between the two of them.

I'm actually too tired to stay up for it... damn midnight embargoes. But it'll be good to have some concrete info on the upcoming series. Some of the fans were getting a wee bit restless, bless them.
Score
21-07-2011
Red or Black week is definitely going to be one of the more intriguing weeks of ratings this Autumn. I assume it's going to run Saturday 3rd to Saturday 10th (skipping Tuesday for the football). It seems as though they're splitting the weekend episodes too so I suspect those 2 Saturdays will looks like this:

18:30- High Stakes, 19:30- Red or Black, 20:30- The X Factor, 21:45- Red or Black.

I can't see any other way of doing it as they won't want High Stakes on any earlier than that. Ideally Red or Black would run as one 90 minute show after TXF on the two Saturdays but ITV Media has it down as being split every night. The Sunday will probably have the same schedule as the weekdays.

The scheduling is a bit of a wildcard. On the one hand splitting it could mean it becomes too much of a commitment for viewers, and the 8pm starts could harm it on the Monday and Friday. However if they can get a strong audience over the first weekend then the 8pm starts shouldn't be too problematic.

Overall unlike with BGT I think the scheduling could actually work out rather well though as the 8pm episodes will have Corrie/Emmerdale lead-ins possibly on all 4 weekdays (football on Tuesday) which will give it a nice inheritance. Mainly though with Corrie airing at 9pm and getting 9-10m those 9:30pm Red or Black episodes should do really well, as even if it only gets 5m at 8pm it should get a minimum of 6.5m or so at 9:30pm as it'll have a great lead-in and the other networks will be halfway through their 9pm programmes so there will be less incentive for viewers to turn over. In turn high 9:30pm ratings could boost the 8pm episodes as people sample it and decide to tune in from the start. Also don't forget that ROB will be starting at 8pm not 7:30pm unlike BGT which is a better time and it therefore won't clash with EE on the Thursday.

I think they've got a real shot at having a big hit with this. I think if it can get 6m or so watching over the weekend then so long as it's a good show they should have an even bigger audience by the end of the run as the scheduling is built to help it. The half hour overlaps with EE on the Monday and Friday will dent it a bit but a strong recovery against 8:30pm filler should boost the overall average for the episodes.

They'll probably be disappointed if the series averages less than 6m, and might even be looking for closer to 7m as they've put a lot of money into it. 5-5.5m is probably the recommission level as even though that'd be below what they're probably expecting it'd be enough to encourage them to bring it back and hope for growth.
Joe40
21-07-2011
From the world of Facebook....
Big Brother On Digital Spy
Be sure to check www.digitalspy.co.uk/headlines just after midnight for some very exciting Big Brother news!

(Friday's Daily Star has BB2 winner Brian Dowling on the front page).
Cent
21-07-2011
I don't think Brian is that bad a choice. He's got loads of live TV experience - he came through Saturday morning TV like Ant and Dec, Cat Deely, Vernon Kay, Tess Daly, etc.

He's also responsible for one of my fav tv moments in the last few years, which is always worth another viewing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pdM...eature=related
Fudd
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“Red or Black week is definitely going to be one of the more intriguing weeks of ratings this Autumn. I assume it's going to run Saturday 3rd to Saturday 10th (skipping Tuesday for the football). It seems as though they're splitting the weekend episodes too so I suspect those 2 Saturdays will looks like this:

18:30- High Stakes, 19:30- Red or Black, 20:30- The X Factor, 21:45- Red or Black.

I can't see any other way of doing it as they won't want High Stakes on any earlier than that. Ideally Red or Black would run as one 90 minute show after TXF on the two Saturdays but ITV Media has it down as being split every night. The Sunday will probably have the same schedule as the weekdays.

The scheduling is a bit of a wildcard. On the one hand splitting it could mean it becomes too much of a commitment for viewers, and the 8pm starts could harm it on the Monday and Friday. However if they can get a strong audience over the first weekend then the 8pm starts shouldn't be too problematic.

Overall unlike with BGT I think the scheduling could actually work out rather well though as the 8pm episodes will have Corrie/Emmerdale lead-ins possibly on all 4 weekdays (football on Tuesday) which will give it a nice inheritance. Mainly though with Corrie airing at 9pm and getting 9-10m those 9:30pm Red or Black episodes should do really well, as even if it only gets 5m at 8pm it should get a minimum of 6.5m or so at 9:30pm as it'll have a great lead-in and the other networks will be halfway through their 9pm programmes so there will be less incentive for viewers to turn over. In turn high 9:30pm ratings could boost the 8pm episodes as people sample it and decide to tune in from the start. Also don't forget that ROB will be starting at 8pm not 7:30pm unlike BGT which is a better time and it therefore won't clash with EE on the Thursday.

I think they've got a real shot at having a big hit with this. I think if it can get 6m or so watching over the weekend then so long as it's a good show they should have an even bigger audience by the end of the run as the scheduling is built to help it. The half hour overlaps with EE on the Monday and Friday will dent it a bit but a strong recovery against 8:30pm filler should boost the overall average for the episodes.

They'll probably be disappointed if the series averages less than 6m, and might even be looking for closer to 7m as they've put a lot of money into it. 5-5.5m is probably the decommission level as even though that'd be below what they're probably expecting it'd be enough to encourage them to bring it back and hope for growth.”

Are they actually having 8pm episodes? I thought they were going to schedule it exactly the same as Britain's Got Talent week:

7.00 Emmerdale
7.30 Red or Black
9.00 Coronation Street
9.30 Red or Black
Fudd
21-07-2011
I'm a bit concerfned regarding the Big Brother news in that Brian is a throwback to the Channel 4 era; I would've preferred it if they'd given the show a whole new look. I don't rate Emma as a presenter, either, but that's all down to personal opinion - she seems to be a very nice person.
Dancc
21-07-2011
I think to a certain extent whoever they chose someone was going to be unhappy. It's just the nature of the beast with Big Brother. Virtually all the prime candidates had people for and against, there wasn't really a clear favourite among the fans. Josie for example was quite popular on one of the polls- but also had some very vocal people against- now in my mind she would have been a terrible choice as she has no real presenting experience to speak of and I'm far from convinced she'd be able to pull off such a big role, not that I have anything against the girl. So overall I'm happy with the choices. And apparently Marcus is moving over to 5 with the show, which is great news.

Edit: It's nearly midnight, might as well stay up for the release now.
Score
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Are they actually having 8pm episodes? I thought they were going to schedule it exactly the same as Britain's Got Talent week:

7.00 Emmerdale
7.30 Red or Black
9.00 Coronation Street
9.30 Red or Black”

It is like that but the earlier episodes are only 60 minutes not 90 like BGT so it'll be:

19:00 Emmerdale
19:30 Emmerdale/Corrie/filler
20:00 Red or Black
21:00 Coronation Street
21:30 Red or Black
Fudd
21-07-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“It is like that but the earlier episodes are only 60 minutes not 90 like BGT so it'll be:

19:00 Emmerdale
19:30 Emmerdale/Corrie/filler
20:00 Red or Black
21:00 Coronation Street
21:30 Red or Black”

Thanks. At least On Monday and Friday it'll have a Coronation Street lead in to help it against EastEnders. It's going to be left out on a limb on Tuesday considering how weak the schedule usually is that night.
Score
22-07-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Thanks. At least On Monday and Friday it'll have a Coronation Street lead in to help it against EastEnders. It's going to be left out on a limb on Tuesday considering how weak the schedule usually is that night.”

It won't be on the Tuesday at all as ITV have England v Wales in primetime that night. A lucky escape really. Not sure whether it'll run Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday (the former would be better) but either way the first weekend will be really important for it in terms of establishing a loyal audience before the EE clash on Monday.
Dancc
22-07-2011
Quote:
“Big Brother presenting line-up revealed
Published: 22/07/2011

The presenting line-up for Big Brother on Channel 5 has been revealed, ahead of the shows return to screens next month.

As previously reported online, Channel 4′s ‘ultimate housemate’ Brian Dowling is indeed the host of the main live shows. Former Big Brother’s Little Brother host, Emma Willis, will front a spin-off show that will be scheduled around the main show - Big Brother’s Bit on the Side.

Channel 5′s Director of Programmes, Jeff Ford, announced: “We are delighted to announce Brian Dowling and Emma Willis as the new presenters of Big Brother 2011. As The Ultimate Big Brother Housemate, Brian is the perfect man to be at the helm of Big Brother’s new incarnation.

Emma meanwhile is a consummate professional – as well as being a self confessed superfan. Their combined expertise and first-hand experience of the show will bring an extra dimension to Big Brother when it returns this summer.””

http://www.imediamonkey.com/news/big...e-up-revealed/
Brekkie
22-07-2011
So annoying that Emma Willis is involved and only presenting the spin-off - Big Brother's Bit on the Side. No news yet where that'll be scheduled.

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/news/0722/emm...it-on-the-side
Fudd
22-07-2011
Originally Posted by Score:
“It won't be on the Tuesday at all as ITV have England v Wales in primetime that night. A lucky escape really. Not sure whether it'll run Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday (the former would be better) but either way the first weekend will be really important for it in terms of establishing a loyal audience before the EE clash on Monday.”

I assume they've already 'dropped' an episode for the football, rather than having to fit it around everything else?
Score
22-07-2011
Big Brother's Bit on the Side! What an awful title for a programme!

Brian Dowling is a decent choice though. Emma Willis is very bland and average, at least Dowling has a bit of personality and will be able to bring something different to it.
Score
22-07-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I assume they've already 'dropped' an episode for the football, rather than having to fit it around everything else?”

I'm sure they'll just miss a night rather than try to squeeze it in. When it was announced they made a big deal about the '7 nights' thing but it seems it's actually going to be 7 nights over an 8 night period which feels a bit clumsy. Then again, it does get it out of airing on a Tuesday which is a bonus...
Georged123
22-07-2011
What times did Torchwood start/finish tonight? The episode was only 54 minutes again.
C14E
22-07-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I assume they've already 'dropped' an episode for the football, rather than having to fit it around everything else?”

I think they only ordered 7 episodes so that'd mean Saturday-Saturday (missing Tuesday) or Sunday-Sunday (missing Tuesday).

It all seems like a bit of a risk to expect viewers to give up so much time. Whoever heard of a results show for a gameshow?! And I don't think I'd ever suggest that sticking a new show against Eastenders would be a good idea (even with a soap lead-in, many of those soap viewers will move to Eastenders anyway). Plus, if ROB is 8pm-9pm, what's going to happen at 7.30pm on Monday and Friday? Are there going to be 7 episodes of Corrie in one week?

Maybe I'll be wrong, but it almost seems like they're trying to replicate something which hasn't been successful for BGT rather than replicating its first year scheduling which was successful.
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