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The Ratings Thread (Part 22)
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D.M.N.
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Why for that reason? Apart from a slightly sloppy entry into the post-Round 1 commercial, Channel 5's coverage was excellent last night. You wouldn't have got better elsewhere on terrestrial.

ITV seems to have cut their ties with boxing, so good on Channel 5 for bringing it back to mainstream TV. Honestly have no idea what to expect figures wise but I hope it did well because the presentation was quality and it turned out to be very entertaining clash.

Also don't forget there was a report in a leading industry publication not so long ago which said that Ch 5 were actively looking to expand their sports portfolio beyond just the Europa League. Due to the connection to Primetime, boxing could well be the path they choose to go down if it's done well.”

Yeah but say if the boxing only got 500k last night (okay, highly unlikely) then Channel 5 may not touch it in future, but if it got 1.5m, it may mean an increase of terrestrial boxing in the future.
iaindb
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“2006 was a terible year for ITV, they even managed to lose money showing the World Cup, The summer was diabolical, they only had three dramas running, Bad Girls and Where The Heart Is, both of which were on the final series and heading for the axe, and Jane Hall which had been on the shelf for two years. Everything was getting dropped, Fat Families, the docusoap, was dropped from primetime after one week. In July they decided to show repeats of Afterlife on Sundays at 9pm for six weeks, which didn't even do that well first time around, but abandoned that idea after one week because it got absolutely nothing and they showed episodes of Poirot from 1989 instead.

Daytime was all over the place too, because they had that brilliant idea of showing Paul O'Grady repeats opposite new Paul O'Grady, which lasted three days, they then showed Rising Damp but dropped it because it was flopping a week before it would have finished anyway in favour of repeats of Airline which were so old one of them was about one of the subjects going on The People Versus, then when that finished they realised they had nothing else to show so put Rising Damp back on.

Honestly, it was a dreadful year for ITV, the worst in their entire history, Simon Shaps was in charge and was probably the worst controller of any TV channel ever.

”

Oh, happy days.

Dancc
24-07-2011
Does anyone else think Steve Williams should write a book about TV ratings / history?

I'd buy it.
Pizzatheaction
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Does anyone else think Steve Williams should write a book about TV ratings / history?

I'd buy it.”

Yep!
Glenn A
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Oh, happy days.

”

I concur, ITV1 had moved so far downmarket by the end of the Shaps/ Allen era it made Channel 5 look like BBC Four. The summer schedule for 2006 must have been the worst ever: Celebrity Love Island returned with the new name of Love Island, which fooled nobody, and had viewers reaching for their remotes for five weeks, then there was pointless filler like the Coronation St Family Album and on one occasion they showed the same film twice on one night. I do believe ratings nearly fell below 10 pc as apart from the most fanatical soap and reality show fans, no one else could stomach a schedule that must have been dreamt up by the editor of HEAT magazine.
Sadly for all ITV1 has improved considerably since then, many viewers still think it is dominated by reality shows and soaps and have never switched back.
rzt
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“A couple of overnights from yesterday:

The National Lottery: In It To Win It: 5.4m (27%)
Casualty: 5.0m”

One more rating from last night:

Tonight's The Night: 3.7m (19.8%)
* started at 3.1m and grew to 4.3m

Source: Gavin Barker
Glenn A
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“One more rating from last night:

Tonight's The Night: 3.7m (19.8%)
* started at 3.1m and grew to 4.3m

Source: Gavin Barker”

Acceptable for this time of year and the share is good.
rzt
24-07-2011
Saturday 23rd July Overnights
BBC One
19:10- Tonight's The Night: 3.7m (19.8%)
20:10- The National Lottery: In It To Win It: 5.51m (27.4%)
21:00- Casualty: 5.07m (24.2%)
21:50- Lee Mack's All Star Cast: 3.05m (15.6%)

BBC Two
19:30- Dad's Army: 1.73m (9.3%)
20:00- The Impressionists: Paintings and Revolution: 988k (4.9%)
21:00- BBC Proms 2011: 659k (3.3%)

ITV1
17:20- Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: 3.57m (21.5%) , +1: 512k
20:15- Odd One In: 2.81m (13.8%) , +1: 229k
21:00- Penn and Teller: Fool Us: 3.28m (16%)
22:00- The Marriage Ref: 1.4m (7.8%)

Channel 4
19:30- The Space Shuttle's Last Flight: 1.14m (5.7%) , +1: 177k
21:00- Camelot: 917k (4.5%)

Channel 5
20:00- NCIS: 929k (4.6%)
21:00- Law & Order: SVU: 1.1m (5.3%)
22:00- Boxing Live: British Heavyweight Title Fight: 2.26m (13%)
* 15-minute peak: 2.9m (19.7%) at 11pm
* most watched programme in timeslot


Primetime Shares
BBC One: 21.7%
ITV1: 15.8% (+1: 2.2%)
Channel 5: 6.4%
BBC Two: 5.3%
Channel 4: 4.7% (+1: 0.7%)

Ratings are tape-checked and include HD

Source: DS
Samthefootball
24-07-2011
That is a great rating for the Boxing
D.M.N.
24-07-2011
Super rating that for Channel 5 between two 'unknowns' it has to be said, or at least neither are massive names. Seems that risk paid off beautifully for them. As expected for BBC1, Penn and Teller did okay while the Harry Potter film brought in a very solid share.
Dancc
24-07-2011
Excellent for the boxing indeed. Channel 5 will be thrilled with that performance I should think.

S.V.U. took a dive against Casualty, but it was still comfortably ahead of it's Channel 4 rival Camelot in the head-to-head.

Fool Us bounced back a bit for ITV1, and that's a decent rating for the Harry Potter movie in the early evening period. Good night for BBC One as usual on a Saturday.
Joe40
24-07-2011
Chuffed for Channel 5 and their boxing rating.
They got the programme absolutely right with experience all through the ranks with presenter Mark Pougatch (Radio 5Live Sport), Jim Rosenthal (numerous sports events over the year) and highly competent commentators in Dave Ferrar and Al Bernstein.
Helps of course that it was an entertaining fight too, and hopefully this will encourage Five to stick with a winning formula.
Jonwo
24-07-2011
The Boxing ratings are very good, hopefully it'll encourage Channel 5 to invest in more boxing, given that Saturday BB never rates anyway, I could see them dropping Saturdays in favour of boxing on occassions.
rzt
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“The Boxing ratings are very good, hopefully it'll encourage Channel 5 to invest in more boxing, given that Saturday BB never rates anyway, I could see them dropping Saturdays in favour of boxing on occassions.”

According to an interview on BBC News website, Channel 5 has got Tyson Fury's next fight. So that's a great coup for them given how well last night's fight rated!
Dancc
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“According to an interview on BBC News website, Channel 5 has got Tyson Fury's next fight. So that's a great coup for them given how well last night's fight rated!”

Good stuff. What's the date, do you know?
D.M.N.
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Good stuff. What's the date, do you know?”

No date announced yet.

The article here suggests 6/7 of his fights will be on terrestrial.
Pizzatheaction
24-07-2011
Another good result for the lottery. Possibly a little bit of mutual denting with Casualty and Law & Order. The boxing rated well, and look at its peak share!

And with our smileys, I can tell the story of a low blow:




Steve Williams
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Does anyone else think Steve Williams should write a book about TV ratings / history?

I'd buy it.”

Well, maybe one day. In other news, copies still available!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ENCYCLOPEDIA...ef=pd_sxp_f_pt

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Super rating that for Channel 5 between two 'unknowns' it has to be said, or at least neither are massive names. Seems that risk paid off beautifully for them. As expected for BBC1, Penn and Teller did okay while the Harry Potter film brought in a very solid share.”

Penn and Teller did okay apart from it being beaten by ratings thread punchbag Tonight's The Night. The boxing rating is incredible, although boxing is a tough sport to make a success of because you never really know what you're going to get, you only have to look at Audley Harrison on the Beeb for that. And the promoters are only interested in PPV, by the sounds of things.

In fact since ITV lost all the big fights to Sky in the mid-nineties there's been a few attempts to bring boxing back to terrestrial, ITV had a go in the late nineties with Shea "The Shamrock Express" Nearey, but he never quite made it, although it did involve showing a fight where the ring collapsed halfway through. Then there was the Beeb with Audley Harrison and the early David Haye fights a decade ago, then ITV's stuff a few years ago.
Jonwo
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“According to an interview on BBC News website, Channel 5 has got Tyson Fury's next fight. So that's a great coup for them given how well last night's fight rated!”

Channel 5 should try and avoid a clash with X Factor but I could see this schedule with both Big Brother and Boxing.

8pm NCIS
9pm Big Brother
10pm Boxing

Would rate quite well and give them a good share.
all_night
24-07-2011
Not everyday you see ratings like that for Channel 5.

Does anyone know how well Breakfast did yesterday in light of the Norway attacks?
rzt
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Channel 5 should try and avoid a clash with X Factor but I could see this schedule with both Big Brother and Boxing.

8pm NCIS
9pm Big Brother
10pm Boxing

Would rate quite well and give them a good share.”

Yeah, the next fight is likely to be in the Autumn - November/early December - so that would be quite a likely lineup. The boxing would be best kept away from TXF, which it should be if scheduled at 10pm once again. That schedule half an hour later would be even better IMO as BB then would probably avoid TXF (or most of it anyway) too.
D.M.N.
24-07-2011
PJ, if you're reading - do you know how the F1 did yesterday from 12:10 to 2:20 on BBC1? Ta. I suspect the race did well today with a Brit winning.
Dancc
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“No date announced yet.

The article here suggests 6/7 of his fights will be on terrestrial.”

Thanks mate.

It seems his promoter is hoping to get him onto PPV fights eventually so Channel 5 should enjoy it whilst it lasts!

Expectations for the fight by the way were much lower at 1.5-2.0m, according to this article here.
Dancc
24-07-2011
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Not everyday you see ratings like that for Channel 5.”

Nope, but it is the second programme in the past week to achieve a share of 13% after Finding Nemo last Sunday.
Jonwo
24-07-2011
i think if Boxing to become mainstream, there's needs to be a balance between PPV and terrestrial because a terrestrial audience will keep interest in the sport which will in turn help the PPV sector.
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